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Aug 2, 2022 09:36:54   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Details of How Joe Manchin Was Bought off Reveal the World's Biggest Sucker
https://redstate.com/author/bonchie

By now, you’ve probably heard that Sen. Joe Manchin broke his word to not support an inflation-inducing, tax-raising reconciliation bill. After a year of standing firm, the West Virginia senator bent the knee to the radicals in his party, signing off on nearly $400 billion in climate change spending coupled with a corporate tax hike that will be passed directly to consumers.

nstead of rewarding those who had supported him and acted in good faith, Manchin decided it was best to cave to the leftwing hysterics who harassed him in public and accused him of being a criminal. So what exactly did he get out of the deal?

The details are now out, and they make Manchin look even worse.

When I read that outline, the thing that jumped out to me the most was how vague and unenforceable many of the provisions are. Absolutely nothing in the first section, which is titled “designate and prioritize projects of strategic national importance,” amounts to anything more than a suggestion to the executive branch. The president and the bureaucracy will still retain control of the process despite the generic requirement for a “balanced list.” And given one of the qualifications for that list is “decarbonization potential,” take a wild guess at what will be prioritized.

The rest isn’t objectionable, per se, as much as it is largely irrelevant and hollow. If this permitting reform doesn’t actually disallow politicization of the process, and it clearly doesn’t, all it’s doing is requiring denials of much-needed projects be on a shorter timeframe. But is it really a win if an oil pipeline is shut down in two years instead of five by a malicious bureaucracy?

Moving down the line, you then have a section about enhancing federal government permitting of electric transmission facilities. But again, who gets to make those decisions? The answer is the Secretary of Energy. And who holds that position currently? That would be Jennifer Granholm, a radical leftist who has continually suggested that Americans should suffer in order to transition to “green” energy.

Heck, we aren’t even done yet, and this “compromise” already seems like another giveaway to the climate lobby. Where exactly is the compromise here? What did Manchin actually gain?

The answer is that he got some exceptionally vague promises centering on an LNG pipeline through West Virginia. “Require the relevant agencies to take all necessary actions to permit the construction and operation of the Mountain Valley Pipeline,” the document reads. I mean, if you are going to be bought off, maybe not be this obvious about it?

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Aug 2, 2022 10:22:09   #
son of witless
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Details of How Joe Manchin Was Bought off Reveal the World's Biggest Sucker
https://redstate.com/author/bonchie

By now, you’ve probably heard that Sen. Joe Manchin broke his word to not support an inflation-inducing, tax-raising reconciliation bill. After a year of standing firm, the West Virginia senator bent the knee to the radicals in his party, signing off on nearly $400 billion in climate change spending coupled with a corporate tax hike that will be passed directly to consumers.

nstead of rewarding those who had supported him and acted in good faith, Manchin decided it was best to cave to the leftwing hysterics who harassed him in public and accused him of being a criminal. So what exactly did he get out of the deal?

The details are now out, and they make Manchin look even worse.

When I read that outline, the thing that jumped out to me the most was how vague and unenforceable many of the provisions are. Absolutely nothing in the first section, which is titled “designate and prioritize projects of strategic national importance,” amounts to anything more than a suggestion to the executive branch. The president and the bureaucracy will still retain control of the process despite the generic requirement for a “balanced list.” And given one of the qualifications for that list is “decarbonization potential,” take a wild guess at what will be prioritized.

The rest isn’t objectionable, per se, as much as it is largely irrelevant and hollow. If this permitting reform doesn’t actually disallow politicization of the process, and it clearly doesn’t, all it’s doing is requiring denials of much-needed projects be on a shorter timeframe. But is it really a win if an oil pipeline is shut down in two years instead of five by a malicious bureaucracy?

Moving down the line, you then have a section about enhancing federal government permitting of electric transmission facilities. But again, who gets to make those decisions? The answer is the Secretary of Energy. And who holds that position currently? That would be Jennifer Granholm, a radical leftist who has continually suggested that Americans should suffer in order to transition to “green” energy.

Heck, we aren’t even done yet, and this “compromise” already seems like another giveaway to the climate lobby. Where exactly is the compromise here? What did Manchin actually gain?

The answer is that he got some exceptionally vague promises centering on an LNG pipeline through West Virginia. “Require the relevant agencies to take all necessary actions to permit the construction and operation of the Mountain Valley Pipeline,” the document reads. I mean, if you are going to be bought off, maybe not be this obvious about it?
Details of How Joe Manchin Was Bought off Reveal t... (show quote)


Whenever you make a deal with the Devil, you get screwed. I thought Joe was smarter than this. To get promises that Democrat leaders will break later is not smart. Maybe Sinema will be smarter. Both Reagan and George H.W. Bush got snookered by Democrats.

You need to get them to sign a document in blood, in triplicate, get a mortgage on their mansions, make them put up their First Born, and even then, they will renege.

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Aug 2, 2022 11:45:36   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
Whenever you make a deal with the Devil, you get screwed. I thought Joe was smarter than this. To get promises that Democrat leaders will break later is not smart. Maybe Sinema will be smarter. Both Reagan and George H.W. Bush got snookered by Democrats.

You need to get them to sign a document in blood, in triplicate, get a mortgage on their mansions, make them put up their First Born, and even then, they will renege.

Hahaha…. The Republicans were so nonplussed about Manchin’s change of mind that they cut off vets’ healthcare. That’ll teach ‘em!

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Aug 2, 2022 12:47:11   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha…. The Republicans were so nonplussed about Manchin’s change of mind that they cut off vets’ healthcare. That’ll teach ‘em!


" Hahaha…. " That Vets Health care Bill was a lot more than your Liberal Masters have told you. You must believe that Republicans hate Veterans or are just Politically Brain Dead to give Democrats such a gift. I do not expect you to dig deeper than your Masters have instructed you.

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Aug 2, 2022 12:48:43   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha…. The Republicans were so nonplussed about Manchin’s change of mind that they cut off vets’ healthcare. That’ll teach ‘em!


***they cut off vets’ healthcare.
>>>You are a liar

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Aug 2, 2022 12:52:14   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Details of How Joe Manchin Was Bought off Reveal the World's Biggest Sucker
https://redstate.com/author/bonchie

By now, you’ve probably heard that Sen. Joe Manchin broke his word to not support an inflation-inducing, tax-raising reconciliation bill. After a year of standing firm, the West Virginia senator bent the knee to the radicals in his party, signing off on nearly $400 billion in climate change spending coupled with a corporate tax hike that will be passed directly to consumers.

nstead of rewarding those who had supported him and acted in good faith, Manchin decided it was best to cave to the leftwing hysterics who harassed him in public and accused him of being a criminal. So what exactly did he get out of the deal?

The details are now out, and they make Manchin look even worse.

When I read that outline, the thing that jumped out to me the most was how vague and unenforceable many of the provisions are. Absolutely nothing in the first section, which is titled “designate and prioritize projects of strategic national importance,” amounts to anything more than a suggestion to the executive branch. The president and the bureaucracy will still retain control of the process despite the generic requirement for a “balanced list.” And given one of the qualifications for that list is “decarbonization potential,” take a wild guess at what will be prioritized.

The rest isn’t objectionable, per se, as much as it is largely irrelevant and hollow. If this permitting reform doesn’t actually disallow politicization of the process, and it clearly doesn’t, all it’s doing is requiring denials of much-needed projects be on a shorter timeframe. But is it really a win if an oil pipeline is shut down in two years instead of five by a malicious bureaucracy?

Moving down the line, you then have a section about enhancing federal government permitting of electric transmission facilities. But again, who gets to make those decisions? The answer is the Secretary of Energy. And who holds that position currently? That would be Jennifer Granholm, a radical leftist who has continually suggested that Americans should suffer in order to transition to “green” energy.

Heck, we aren’t even done yet, and this “compromise” already seems like another giveaway to the climate lobby. Where exactly is the compromise here? What did Manchin actually gain?

The answer is that he got some exceptionally vague promises centering on an LNG pipeline through West Virginia. “Require the relevant agencies to take all necessary actions to permit the construction and operation of the Mountain Valley Pipeline,” the document reads. I mean, if you are going to be bought off, maybe not be this obvious about it?
Details of How Joe Manchin Was Bought off Reveal t... (show quote)


***Secretary of Energy. And who holds that position currently? That would be Jennifer Granholm, a radical leftist who has continually suggested that Americans should suffer in order to transition to “green” energy.
>>>That bitch should use her own life style as an example. Bicycle to work. Turn off her air conditioning, Turn her heat down to 68 in the winter. Fly commercial whenever it goes over oceans. Otherwise drive as far as her battery will carry her. Otherwise, FO.

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Aug 2, 2022 14:38:07   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
" Hahaha…. " That Vets Health care Bill was a lot more than your Liberal Masters have told you. You must believe that Republicans hate Veterans or are just Politically Brain Dead to give Democrats such a gift. I do not expect you to dig deeper than your Masters have instructed you.

The bill was exactly the same except one line was crossed out.
The video shows that smarmy a-hole Ted Cruz fist bumping to celebrate stripping healthcare from vets suffering from all kinds of burn pit caused cancers and respiratory illnesses.

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Aug 2, 2022 16:59:54   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
The bill was exactly the same except one line was crossed out.
The video shows that smarmy a-hole Ted Cruz fist bumping to celebrate stripping healthcare from vets suffering from all kinds of burn pit caused cancers and respiratory illnesses.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/republicans-reject-spending-bill-veterans-exposed-burn-pits/story?id=87619926

" “My concern about this bill has nothing to do with the purpose of the bill,” Toomey said on the Senate floor ahead of the vote.

Toomey insisted upon objections to what he claims is an effort by Democrats to free up $400 billion in existing funds already being used for veterans by shuffling the money inside the budget to use for unrelated purposes. "

You never learn that with Scum Bag Democrats there are always always other things in play. Democrats never ever do anything right with out having some other evil motive going on.

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Aug 2, 2022 18:14:02   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:

" “My concern about this bill has nothing to do with the purpose of the bill,” Toomey said on the Senate floor ahead of the vote.

Of course not. The Republicans were just blindsided by Manchin’s decision and repudiating their earlier vote was the only way they could think of to strike back.
Too bad for vets, but whatever.

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Aug 2, 2022 18:44:36   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
Of course not. The Republicans were just blindsided by Manchin’s decision and repudiating their earlier vote was the only way they could think of to strike back.
Too bad for vets, but whatever.


It still is not what you say it is. Democrats love to spend taxpayer money. It is oxygen to the scum bags. It looks like they rolled Manchin and the Republicans.

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Aug 2, 2022 20:22:32   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
It still is not what you say it is. Democrats love to spend taxpayer money. It is oxygen to the scum bags. It looks like they rolled Manchin and the Republicans.

With reps from 60 vets’ organizations camping on the Capitol steps, the Republicans finally did the right thing and reversed their no votes and passed the bill.

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Aug 2, 2022 20:34:44   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
With reps from 60 vets’ organizations camping on the Capitol steps, the Republicans finally did the right thing and reversed their no votes and passed the bill.


Ahhhh but what are the unknown consequences ? I'm more than sure that all this did was allow Democrats to move money, in the kitty, to other things that have ZERO to do with Veterans. That was the problem Republicans had.

Well anyway, your Democrats won. Good for them.

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Aug 3, 2022 10:17:07   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
Ahhhh but what are the unknown consequences ? I'm more than sure that all this did was allow Democrats to move money, in the kitty, to other things that have ZERO to do with Veterans. That was the problem Republicans had.

Well anyway, your Democrats won. Good for them.

I wonder why the Republicans had a problem with it only AFTER Manchin flipped.

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Aug 3, 2022 17:07:32   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
son of witless wrote:
" Hahaha…. " That Vets Health care Bill was a lot more than your Liberal Masters have told you. You must believe that Republicans hate Veterans or are just Politically Brain Dead to give Democrats such a gift. I do not expect you to dig deeper than your Masters have instructed you.


"That Vets Health care Bill was a lot more than your Liberal Masters have told you. You must believe that Republicans hate Veterans or are just Politically Brain Dead to give Democrats such a gift. I do not expect you to dig deeper than your Masters have instructed you." - son of witless

Obviously!

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Aug 3, 2022 17:18:46   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
I wonder why the Republicans had a problem with it only AFTER Manchin flipped.


Wonder wonder wonder. Democrats can never pass a clean bill.

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