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Jun 29, 2022 17:20:44   #
Shandel
 
Thx for the info!

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Aug 10, 2022 21:21:54   #
Shandel
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
No joke. Some mules are even now spilling the beans of how they s**mmed the e******n results.T***p w*n, don't be dumb.


The only mules are the jackasses pushing Trumps lie! Be smart Trump lost and as you can see as he pleads the 5th because he lies!

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Aug 10, 2022 22:36:34   #
Haski123
 
Shandel wrote:
The only mules are the jackasses pushing Trumps lie! Be smart Trump lost and as you can see as he pleads the 5th because he lies!


It’s been over 1 1/2 years since 2020 e******n. Trump did the right thing, challenging e******n results as fraud and irregularities. GOP & Trumps representatives had swing states either audit results, recount, compare electronic to paper scrubbed v**er rolls, brought theories to courts over sixty not consider due to lack of evidence or standing. His GOP congressmen we exercising their right to challenge e*******l college v**es. The proof for answer he wanted after Nov v**e til J6 THE E******N WAS S****N, so he didn’t take advice of his WH staff or his family , After Nov he personally asked Georgia to find + 11k v**es needed change outcome, he met with outside staff and reviewed plans to call Marshall law, confiscate v****g machines, pushed Pence to send e*******l college v**es back to states, GOP provided to Pence an alternate group of uncertified, false e*****r v**es from a number of states to change outcome. With no proof he still claims e******n s****n( all conspiracy theories were investigated during audits recounts, state FBI and DOJ investigations and debunked) . Bottom line -Trump Lost in 2020, did not accept results and did not allow a peaceful t******r of p***r for the first time in USA history. I agree with Shantel TRUMP LOST in 2020. There are no facts or uninvestigated conspiracy theory that indict he won or no facts that support fraud or irregularities existed that would have changed e******n results in favor of Trump.

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Aug 10, 2022 22:55:26   #
debeda
 
Haski123 wrote:
It’s been over 1 1/2 years since 2020 e******n. Trump did the right thing, challenging e******n results as fraud and irregularities. GOP & Trumps representatives had swing states either audit results, recount, compare electronic to paper scrubbed v**er rolls, brought theories to courts over sixty not consider due to lack of evidence or standing. His GOP congressmen we exercising their right to challenge e*******l college v**es. The proof for answer he wanted after Nov v**e til J6 THE E******N WAS S****N, so he didn’t take advice of his WH staff or his family , After Nov he personally asked Georgia to find + 11k v**es needed change outcome, he met with outside staff and reviewed plans to call Marshall law, confiscate v****g machines, pushed Pence to send e*******l college v**es back to states, GOP provided to Pence an alternate group of uncertified, false e*****r v**es from a number of states to change outcome. With no proof he still claims e******n s****n( all conspiracy theories were investigated during audits recounts, state FBI and DOJ investigations and debunked) . Bottom line -Trump Lost in 2020, did not accept results and did not allow a peaceful t******r of p***r for the first time in USA history. I agree with Shantel TRUMP LOST in 2020. There are no facts or uninvestigated conspiracy theory that indict he won or no facts that support fraud or irregularities existed that would have changed e******n results in favor of Trump.
It’s been over 1 1/2 years since 2020 e******n. Tr... (show quote)


At least half of the country disagrees. It's sad and pathetic what the current regime has done to the country. I wonder how those that v**ed for this ongoing disaster feel now.

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Aug 11, 2022 07:46:57   #
Shandel
 
debeda wrote:
At least half of the country disagrees. It's sad and pathetic what the current regime has done to the country. I wonder how those that v**ed for this ongoing disaster feel now.


What have they done so bad? Passed bipartisan AND OTHER legislation like Infrastructure, CHIPS Act,ARP,PACT ACT, & IRA! All This in less than 2 yrs? Unemployment is down. There are many job openings …. Oil Companies and world markets set the oil prices Inflation is driven by many factors and is a world wide problem. C***D changed the game maybe instead of being angry with the administration turn your anger towards the corporate greed which is taking place!

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Aug 11, 2022 10:24:50   #
Haski123
 
debeda wrote:
At least half of the country disagrees. It's sad and pathetic what the current regime has done to the country. I wonder how those that v**ed for this ongoing disaster feel now.


What has the regime pathetically done to this country, and what is the disaster? Do all rights and wrongs become political now, everything good and bad is President or politicians fault or responsibilities. Didn’t used to be that way. As an official at a Basketball game, I was struck in the back by a player I’d ejected from the previous game. Since I am white and he was black the first question asked by military police was is this a “racial “ incident. It was deemed not, but today I fear it would have been. Same with politics relating every good or bad to the President or Politics even though he has little or no influence to the event , blaming opposing party for all bad and own party taking credit for all good. Pretty soon we’ll need political oversight on medical treatment, car accidents, things clearly not political in past . Point: let’s stop making every action taken by anyone- political in nature, they aren’t.

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Aug 11, 2022 13:39:34   #
debeda
 
Shandel wrote:
What have they done so bad? Passed bipartisan AND OTHER legislation like Infrastructure, CHIPS Act,ARP,PACT ACT, & IRA! All This in less than 2 yrs? Unemployment is down. There are many job openings …. Oil Companies and world markets set the oil prices Inflation is driven by many factors and is a world wide problem. C***D changed the game maybe instead of being angry with the administration turn your anger towards the corporate greed which is taking place!


Impoverished us all with spending boondoggles and insane inflation. The real inflation rate is closer to 24%. ALL necessities - housing, utilities, gas, food are up an insane amount. That dem kool aid must be some powerful stuff to keep you from believing your own eyes

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Aug 11, 2022 13:40:22   #
debeda
 
Haski123 wrote:
What has the regime pathetically done to this country, and what is the disaster? Do all rights and wrongs become political now, everything good and bad is President or politicians fault or responsibilities. Didn’t used to be that way. As an official at a Basketball game, I was struck in the back by a player I’d ejected from the previous game. Since I am white and he was black the first question asked by military police was is this a “racial “ incident. It was deemed not, but today I fear it would have been. Same with politics relating every good or bad to the President or Politics even though he has little or no influence to the event , blaming opposing party for all bad and own party taking credit for all good. Pretty soon we’ll need political oversight on medical treatment, car accidents, things clearly not political in past . Point: let’s stop making every action taken by anyone- political in nature, they aren’t.
What has the regime pathetically done to this coun... (show quote)


What a silly post

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Aug 11, 2022 14:02:25   #
Shandel
 
debeda wrote:
Impoverished us all with spending boondoggles and insane inflation. The real inflation rate is closer to 24%. ALL necessities - housing, utilities, gas, food are up an insane amount. That dem kool aid must be some powerful stuff to keep you from believing your own eyes


Greed is now driving the inflation. Unless there are shortages in ALL the necessities you mention and understanding t***sportation costs (oil) would drive the cost up somewhat. Consumers are a major part of the problem especially in the housing market. The only Kool aid you guys drank was the Trumplican/ Do nothing party Kool aid. What have they done to help the situation? All they b***h about is “ culture wars BS” which literally does nothing to solve our country’s issues! How does attacking women, teachers, doctors, police, children, the FBI cure any of our problems. Wanting authoritarian leadership will destroy our democracy. No one wants Biden or Trump to run in 2024. They are too old. We need smart young leaders and please keep their damn family members out of the WH!

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Aug 11, 2022 14:09:55   #
debeda
 
Shandel wrote:
Greed is now driving the inflation. Unless there are shortages in ALL the necessities you mention and understanding t***sportation costs (oil) would drive the cost up somewhat. Consumers are a major part of the problem especially in the housing market. The only Kool aid you guys drank was the Trumplican/ Do nothing party Kool aid. What have they done to help the situation? All they b***h about is “ culture wars BS” which literally does nothing to solve our country’s issues! How does attacking women, teachers, doctors, police, children, the FBI cure any of our problems. Wanting authoritarian leadership will destroy our democracy. No one wants Biden or Trump to run in 2024. They are too old. We need smart young leaders and please keep their damn family members out of the WH!
Greed is now driving the inflation. Unless there a... (show quote)


You keep telling yourself you know what's happening. Hopefully you will find comfort in the hungry future from your great knowledge

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Aug 11, 2022 14:18:30   #
Haski123
 
debeda wrote:
Impoverished us all with spending boondoggles and insane inflation. The real inflation rate is closer to 24%. ALL necessities - housing, utilities, gas, food are up an insane amount. That dem kool aid must be some powerful stuff to keep you from believing your own eyes


I’m keenly aware of inflation . What I’m not sure if as many factors affect inflation and economy, definitely not just the WH. Also inflation doesn’t happen overnight , years sometimes decades of decisions, world situations, etc. Biden is POTUS so he owns fixing it and taking actions to change inflation trend last I saw monthly inflation for July was flat, need consecutive months like that or down to recover, still to many day to day items we all buy are to high. Good thing employment is high and jobs available for those interested so people can struggle through it.

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Aug 11, 2022 14:42:30   #
Haski123
 
Shandel wrote:
Greed is now driving the inflation. Unless there are shortages in ALL the necessities you mention and understanding t***sportation costs (oil) would drive the cost up somewhat. Consumers are a major part of the problem especially in the housing market. The only Kool aid you guys drank was the Trumplican/ Do nothing party Kool aid. What have they done to help the situation? All they b***h about is “ culture wars BS” which literally does nothing to solve our country’s issues! How does attacking women, teachers, doctors, police, children, the FBI cure any of our problems. Wanting authoritarian leadership will destroy our democracy. No one wants Biden or Trump to run in 2024. They are too old. We need smart young leaders and please keep their damn family members out of the WH!
Greed is now driving the inflation. Unless there a... (show quote)


I agree with much of what you say, greed is clearly a part of driving up inflation, what we measure drives greed, business executive pressed to improve bottom line and stock value, can restrict supply, hold back wages and use any and all excuses to raise prices-now, seems to be a lag in bringing prices back down, many would rather buy back shares to increase stockholder value than invest in capital assets, more supply, or give employees a raise. Big oil, big tech, big pharma, even gun lobbies all can use C***d, trade barriers, t***sportation bottlenecks, lack of sk**led workers , war in Ukraine as excuses to raise prices. While some are valid the extent appears to be gouging/greed as you said. A Robert Kennedy type candidate would be refreshing. Young open minded, leader with solid character, morals and good listener and decision maker. Think Republicans or Democrats can find a couple of those type? Wait instead of the traits I mentioned, today you have to have $$ to win with support of large PACs( loosely regulated). The republicans have RSC(Republican Study Committee) looking for viable candidates. The Democrats I like Amy Klobucher as person with character traits, would like Democrats to do a DSC similar to Republicans RSC to find others.

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Aug 11, 2022 17:12:14   #
debeda
 
Haski123 wrote:
I’m keenly aware of inflation . What I’m not sure if as many factors affect inflation and economy, definitely not just the WH. Also inflation doesn’t happen overnight , years sometimes decades of decisions, world situations, etc. Biden is POTUS so he owns fixing it and taking actions to change inflation trend last I saw monthly inflation for July was flat, need consecutive months like that or down to recover, still to many day to day items we all buy are to high. Good thing employment is high and jobs available for those interested so people can struggle through it.
I’m keenly aware of inflation . What I’m not sure ... (show quote)


This administration KICKED OFF inflation with their dunderheaded decisions on our pipeline deal with Canada, throwing our borders open to 200,000 dependent i*****l a***ns per month, not to mention the 120k unvetted i******s from Afghanistan while American allies were left behind to be slaughtered, ridiculous regulations on food and energy production, RAISES for Congress and their staff 2X as part of "c***d relief", billions to other countries, and the list goes on and on and on. Good GRIEF, wake up

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Aug 11, 2022 20:09:50   #
Haski123
 
debeda wrote:
This administration KICKED OFF inflation with their dunderheaded decisions on our pipeline deal with Canada, throwing our borders open to 200,000 dependent i*****l a***ns per month, not to mention the 120k unvetted i******s from Afghanistan while American allies were left behind to be slaughtered, ridiculous regulations on food and energy production, RAISES for Congress and their staff 2X as part of "c***d relief", billions to other countries, and the list goes on and on and on. Good GRIEF, wake up
This administration KICKED OFF inflation with thei... (show quote)

Afghanistan was handled poorly assumption that Afghanistan army and leadership was poor assumption with no timely backup plan. I could find little info on number of allies left behind that were slaughtered, congress gives themselves raises not Biden administration , we’ve always supported other democracies across the world . Other than supporting Ukraine in its defense of Russian invasion I’m not sure how different WW spending is different from Trump. Trump did highlight fair share spending in NATO, that was a good thing. Give this a read on reasons for gas increases. Looks sound to me.
The Real Reasons for High Oil and Gas Prices
Dispelling myths is step one. Step two is understanding why clean energy is the only long-term solution to rising gasoline prices.
March 28, 2022
Courtney Lindwall

Gas prices are advertised at more than $5 a gallon on February 28, 2022, in Los Angeles.
Anthony Behar/Sipa USA via AP Photo
In the wake of the devastating Russian invasion of Ukraine, U.S. gas prices soared, averaging $4.25 a gallon. Now f****l f**l companies and their political allies have seized the opportunity to suggest that additional f****l f**l investment is the solution. Their arguments are rife with misinformation. This is calculated, of course, meant to pad the industry’s pockets and lock more generations into f****l f**l dependence. That would, in turn, further delay the clean energy future necessary to achieve real energy independence. Here are some of the myths to look out for and the facts that refute them.

Myth: Drilling for more oil in the United States would lower high gas prices.
Fact-check: Drilling for more oil in the United States will not lower gas prices because the production of U.S. oil does not set the price of gas—the global price of oil does. Oil and gas are global commodities, subject to the whims of notoriously volatile global markets. Their prices are particularly sensitive to geopolitical events and investor sentiment. So everything from war to p******cs to e******ns can and regularly do cause rapid price swings. That’s why, even though Russian oil made up less than 2 percent of the U.S. supply, ending Russian oil imports still hit U.S. consumers hard. In other words, this is not simply about balancing supply and demand.

In fact, in this case, sky-high gas prices came from a confluence of events. As C****-** restrictions eased and economies rebounded rapidly, demand for oil spiked. P******c-related supply chain disruptions exacerbated the situation, causing gas prices to go up. Then, more recently and perhaps most saliently, Russia.

Oil markets were roiled when Russia, a petro-state whose exports supply 8 percent of the global oil supply, used its f****l f**l earnings to finance another unjust war. The response by the oil and gas industry was to perpetuate the lie that more drilling would ease the impact on the United States. Of course, they didn’t note that ending our dependence on oil is the clearest way to distance ourselves from the volatility of global oil markets. (Should European allies decide to ban Russian oil, we’ll see another wild swing in prices.) And they ignored the ugly reality that this very dependence on oil and gas has routinely contributed to sowing political chaos and bloodshed like what we’re seeing in Ukraine.


Oil pumpjacks in an oil field near Neftekamsk, Russia
Andrey Rudakov/Bloomberg via Getty Images
Myth: Gas prices are rising because Biden banned oil drilling.
Fact-check: President Biden did not ban oil drilling. In fact, his administration issued more than 3,500 new permits to drill on federal lands in its first year. That’s 34 percent more than the Trump administration did in its first year.

Representatives for the oil and gas industry still exploited the crisis in Ukraine to call for drilling expansion and suggested this would address current gas price issues. The t***h is that even if the United States handed out additional oil drilling permits and every oil company went to town, that wouldn’t offer any immediate relief to consumers. On average, it takes more than 10 years from the time a federal drilling lease is issued until it’s producing salable quantities of oil or gas.

What U.S. oil companies and their allies did not suggest was an increase in their current output, which remains at pre-C***D levels. That’s because internally, many of these companies have already said their production is likely to remain flat for reasons that include prioritizing shareholders. Basically, high prices are good for the bottom line.

One step that Biden did take as part of a flurry of climate actions upon taking office last January was to temporarily pause new oil and gas leasing on federal lands and waters in order to review the Trump-era leasing program. But that decision was thrown out by a federal judge last June and had no impact on current gasoline prices.

Myth: The cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline caused high gas prices.
Fact-check: We can safely say the Biden administration’s decision to cancel the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline (KXL), an extension of the fully operational Keystone Pipeline System, had no impact on current oil prices. 

Yes, allies of the oil and gas industry—from Fox News hosts to former vice president Mike Pence—are claiming that the pipeline would have buffered Americans from high gas prices and reduced U.S. reliance on Russian oil. That’s false on multiple levels.

First, it would have taken years for KXL to be fully operational, so its increased supply would have no bearing on current gas prices. Second, the 830,000 barrels of tar sands oil it would have carried daily were intended to head directly to refineries on the Gulf Coast—and then likely to markets overseas.

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Aug 11, 2022 20:21:49   #
debeda
 
Haski123 wrote:
Afghanistan was handled poorly assumption that Afghanistan army and leadership was poor assumption with no timely backup plan. I could find little info on number of allies left behind that were slaughtered, congress gives themselves raises not Biden administration , we’ve always supported other democracies across the world . Other than supporting Ukraine in its defense of Russian invasion I’m not sure how different WW spending is different from Trump. Trump did highlight fair share spending in NATO, that was a good thing. Give this a read on reasons for gas increases. Looks sound to me.
The Real Reasons for High Oil and Gas Prices
Dispelling myths is step one. Step two is understanding why clean energy is the only long-term solution to rising gasoline prices.
March 28, 2022
Courtney Lindwall

Gas prices are advertised at more than $5 a gallon on February 28, 2022, in Los Angeles.
Anthony Behar/Sipa USA via AP Photo
In the wake of the devastating Russian invasion of Ukraine, U.S. gas prices soared, averaging $4.25 a gallon. Now f****l f**l companies and their political allies have seized the opportunity to suggest that additional f****l f**l investment is the solution. Their arguments are rife with misinformation. This is calculated, of course, meant to pad the industry’s pockets and lock more generations into f****l f**l dependence. That would, in turn, further delay the clean energy future necessary to achieve real energy independence. Here are some of the myths to look out for and the facts that refute them.

Myth: Drilling for more oil in the United States would lower high gas prices.
Fact-check: Drilling for more oil in the United States will not lower gas prices because the production of U.S. oil does not set the price of gas—the global price of oil does. Oil and gas are global commodities, subject to the whims of notoriously volatile global markets. Their prices are particularly sensitive to geopolitical events and investor sentiment. So everything from war to p******cs to e******ns can and regularly do cause rapid price swings. That’s why, even though Russian oil made up less than 2 percent of the U.S. supply, ending Russian oil imports still hit U.S. consumers hard. In other words, this is not simply about balancing supply and demand.

In fact, in this case, sky-high gas prices came from a confluence of events. As C****-** restrictions eased and economies rebounded rapidly, demand for oil spiked. P******c-related supply chain disruptions exacerbated the situation, causing gas prices to go up. Then, more recently and perhaps most saliently, Russia.

Oil markets were roiled when Russia, a petro-state whose exports supply 8 percent of the global oil supply, used its f****l f**l earnings to finance another unjust war. The response by the oil and gas industry was to perpetuate the lie that more drilling would ease the impact on the United States. Of course, they didn’t note that ending our dependence on oil is the clearest way to distance ourselves from the volatility of global oil markets. (Should European allies decide to ban Russian oil, we’ll see another wild swing in prices.) And they ignored the ugly reality that this very dependence on oil and gas has routinely contributed to sowing political chaos and bloodshed like what we’re seeing in Ukraine.


Oil pumpjacks in an oil field near Neftekamsk, Russia
Andrey Rudakov/Bloomberg via Getty Images
Myth: Gas prices are rising because Biden banned oil drilling.
Fact-check: President Biden did not ban oil drilling. In fact, his administration issued more than 3,500 new permits to drill on federal lands in its first year. That’s 34 percent more than the Trump administration did in its first year.

Representatives for the oil and gas industry still exploited the crisis in Ukraine to call for drilling expansion and suggested this would address current gas price issues. The t***h is that even if the United States handed out additional oil drilling permits and every oil company went to town, that wouldn’t offer any immediate relief to consumers. On average, it takes more than 10 years from the time a federal drilling lease is issued until it’s producing salable quantities of oil or gas.

What U.S. oil companies and their allies did not suggest was an increase in their current output, which remains at pre-C***D levels. That’s because internally, many of these companies have already said their production is likely to remain flat for reasons that include prioritizing shareholders. Basically, high prices are good for the bottom line.

One step that Biden did take as part of a flurry of climate actions upon taking office last January was to temporarily pause new oil and gas leasing on federal lands and waters in order to review the Trump-era leasing program. But that decision was thrown out by a federal judge last June and had no impact on current gasoline prices.

Myth: The cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline caused high gas prices.
Fact-check: We can safely say the Biden administration’s decision to cancel the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline (KXL), an extension of the fully operational Keystone Pipeline System, had no impact on current oil prices. 

Yes, allies of the oil and gas industry—from Fox News hosts to former vice president Mike Pence—are claiming that the pipeline would have buffered Americans from high gas prices and reduced U.S. reliance on Russian oil. That’s false on multiple levels.

First, it would have taken years for KXL to be fully operational, so its increased supply would have no bearing on current gas prices. Second, the 830,000 barrels of tar sands oil it would have carried daily were intended to head directly to refineries on the Gulf Coast—and then likely to markets overseas.
Afghanistan was handled poorly assumption that Afg... (show quote)


I disagree with your assumptions. But can't blame you when I realize where you get your notion of "myth" and "fact".

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