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Oct 21, 2014 12:59:25   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.

FAITHFUL WARRIOR...by Wayne Worden, Auburn, Calif.

The motorcycles lined up two by two in the hotel parking lot, a gleaming row of rumbling chrome and leather...guys in chaps and jackets covered with patches. It was a bright blue May morning in the Sierra Nevada foothills...a perfect day for the start of a long ride. The 40 of us gathered there were experienced bikers. Veterans, in more ways than one, we were. But everyone looked a little on edge. This was no ordinary ride. These were no ordinary men.

I know I was nervous. The ride leader, Steve Mulcahy, had just asked me for a favor. "Wayne," he said, "our chaplain just called. His bike broke down. Can you take over?"

Me? Chaplain? For a bunch of bikers? The guys in this parking lot all had one thing in common: We'd served in the military, and now we were about to embark on a 10-day cross-country trip to Washington, D.C., for a motorcycle rally on the National Mall called 'Rolling Thunder'. For two decades, motorcycle-riding Vets have descended on D.C. Memorial Day weekend to honor soldiers and bring attention to prisoners of war and those missing in action.

For years I'd wanted to do this ride organized by the National Veteran's Awareness Organization. At last I had the time and the money...but ride as Chaplain? Sure, I was a founding member of my local Christian Motorcyclist's Association chapter. But I was still coming to terms with what this ride meant for me. I still struggled with memories I'd spent the better part of my life trying to forget. How could I be a spiritual guide to these guys when I felt so shaky inside?

"Sure," I told Steve. What else could I say? How could I explain to him things I could hardly explain to myself?

"Mount up!" Steve called.

We pulled out of the parking lot and roared onto the highway. The missing man formation went in front: 5 guys in rows of two, with one space left empty to honor the unknown soldier. Everyone else was staggered in a line behind. Road guards pulled ahead at intersections to clear the way so we could keep rolling. It truly was a gorgeous day, the air scented with pine, but it didn't take long for my mind to drift into memories. I knew this would happen. I knew it had to happen. I'd tried to prepare myself. But, really, you can't.

My 'Nam memories were different from other Vets'. And that was part of the problem. I'd done everything I could to avoid the draft. I even asked my doctor to X-ray me in case some hidden medical problem might keep me out. Nope. I was inducted in September 1971 and shipped out the following May for a 10-month tour. I was assigned to a Criminal Investigation Division unit as a case processor on a big base near Saigon.

In those days of the war, morale was rock bottom and soldiers were heavy into drugs, fragging officers, shooting each other over girls. No one was more h**ed than guys in the rear, especially criminal investigators. Sometimes I felt like I was the enemy, not the Viet Cong. I never got shot at but I saw plenty of ugliness, plenty of things I wish I hadn't.

It wasn't just the crime-scene memories I wanted to forget when I got home. I hadn't been out in the jungle. I felt like I hadn't been a real soldier. Besides, everyone stateside h**ed the war by that point. "Don't want to talk about it," I'd mumble when people asked what it was like.

I didn't struggle with alcohol and drugs like some Vets did. I found work as a carpenter and stuck with it. Now I owned my own contracting business. I came to the Lord about 10 years after 'Nam and never looked back. Still, I had three failed marriages. I guess you could say I had trouble with relationships. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't fill that hole where I'd tried to bury my war memories, bury them alive.

Rumbling down the highway on my Harley, I told myself to snap out of it. At the end of each day's ride it was my job to say a blessing over dinner. That's what the chaplain did. Prayed before meals and was available to guys in need. It was the second part that worried me.

By day three, we were in the Rockies. The scenery was jaw-dropping, but I hadn't counted on the freezing temperatures in the mountains. I had on tons of layers--leather coat, vest, do-rag, gloves and liners. Still, I was numb with cold. I was in the missing man formation that morning. It started to snow. Flakes collected on my windshield 'till all I could see were the lights on the bike ahead of me. It was like snow falling on my memories too, making everything that much colder. What are you doing here, Wayne? I asked myself. I was almost 61 years old. This crazy ride wasn't going to change anything, especially not the past. I'd gone to war, done my duty and come home. I'd moved on. But had I?

Suddenly I heard a voice. Five simple words: Who are you riding for? My eyes fell on the space left in our formation for the missing soldier. A strange warmth came over me. I gripped my handlebars harder, squeezing back tears, and followed the road as it wound up toward the peaks.

A couple of days later, we were on the Great Plains. We fought to keep our bikes upright in gusty wind. Then it got muggy and we slogged through thunderstorms. All the time I kept my eyes on that missing man.

One morning, in Nebraska, I worked up my courage to say a little more than a prayer at breakfast. I talked about how I'd made my first -ever trip to see the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial back in 2003. "Because of where I served, I didn't know anyone who died," I said, glancing around the room to see what everyone thought about that. No one seemed to mind. "So what I'm going to do when we get to the Memorial," I continued, "is pick a name at random from the year I was in 'Nam and dedicate this ride to him."

The room fell silent. I could see men choking back tears. I bowed my head and said a blessing. The minute I sat down, guys were coming up to me.

"Thank you, " they kept saying.

And from that moment, the stories poured out. I heard about it all. Buddies k**led. Horrific sights. Lives wrecked back home. Booze, drugs, homelessness, prison. "No one understood then and they still don't," one guy said. "It's like the whole country just shoved it down in a hole. Like if they ignored it, it would go away." Just like I had.

We rode on. As we got closer to D.C., we started seeing banners draped from overpasses. Thank you for your service. Welcome home, soldier. I'd waited 40 years to see something like that.

At last we arrived. The entire city seemed to shake and rumble with the sound of motorcycles. The Mall was packed. Every war memorial--WWII, Korea, Vietnam--was obscured by crowds of guys in biker gear.

We made our way toward the VietNam Veteran's Memorial. It's a wall of black rock sunk into the ground of the Mall, inscribed with the names of more than 58,000 men and women k**led or missing in action. The Memorial is always crowded. That day, we could hardly get to it at first. Then, suddenly there we were, face-to-face with the reflective black stone. Some of the bikers had never seen the wall before. They approached hesitantly, eyes scanning the etched names for ones they recognized. I ran my finger across the rows until I reached my year in 'Nam. I stopped at a name...Billy Wyatt. I stood there a minute totally still. I wondered what Billy looked like, how he died. Slowly, I made a tracing of his name and closed my eyes to pray. Billy, I dedicate this ride to you. God rest your soul.

I heard a cry. I turned and saw one of the men from our group fall to the ground. He sat crumpled, head in hands, weeping. He'd found his best buddy's name.

I rushed over and knelt down to put an arm around him. Another guy joined us. For a moment we all just held each other. I tried to pray.

I don't remember exactly what I said. But the words didn't matter. What mattered at that moment was that wh**ever I'd feared at the start of our ride was gone. That hole inside me...the guys I'd ridden with, my brother's-in-arms, they helped to fill the emptiness. And there was Someone else with us too.

Who are you riding for? Maybe the better question was: Who rode for us? We'd fought and suffered. Few people celebrated our return home. But God was alongside us the whole time. He climbed down into that hole with us. He rode over the mountains and through the snow and rain. And now he was here, sharing our pain and lifting us up.

Holding my fellow Veterans there by The Wall, praying for them, it was like I heard that voice from the mountains all over again. And this time he said, "Welcome home, soldier."


R.I.P., Gene and Hank. SEMPER FI!

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Oct 21, 2014 13:25:44   #
Had enough
 
slatten49 wrote:
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.

FAITHFUL WARRIOR...by Wayne Worden, Auburn, Calif.

The motorcycles lined up two by two in the hotel parking lot, a gleaming row of rumbling chrome and leather...guys in chaps and jackets covered with patches. It was a bright blue May morning in the Sierra Nevada foothills...a perfect day for the start of a long ride. The 40 of us gathered there were experienced bikers. Veterans, in more ways than one, we were. But everyone looked a little on edge. This was no ordinary ride. These were no ordinary men.

I know I was nervous. The ride leader, Steve Mulcahy, had just asked me for a favor. "Wayne," he said, "our chaplain just called. His bike broke down. Can you take over?"

Me? Chaplain? For a bunch of bikers? The guys in this parking lot all had one thing in common: We'd served in the military, and now we were about to embark on a 10-day cross-country trip to Washington, D.C., for a motorcycle rally on the National Mall called 'Rolling Thunder'. For two decades, motorcycle-riding Vets have descended on D.C. Memorial Day weekend to honor soldiers and bring attention to prisoners of war and those missing in action.

For years I'd wanted to do this ride organized by the National Veteran's Awareness Organization. At last I had the time and the money...but ride as Chaplain? Sure, I was a founding member of my local Christian Motorcyclist's Association chapter. But I was still coming to terms with what this ride meant for me. I still struggled with memories I'd spent the better part of my life trying to forget. How could I be a spiritual guide to these guys when I felt so shaky inside?

"Sure," I told Steve. What else could I say? How could I explain to him things I could hardly explain to myself?

"Mount up!" Steve called.

We pulled out of the parking lot and roared onto the highway. The missing man formation went in front: 5 guys in rows of two, with one space left empty to honor the unknown soldier. Everyone else was staggered in a line behind. Road guards pulled ahead at intersections to clear the way so we could keep rolling. It truly was a gorgeous day, the air scented with pine, but it didn't take long for my mind to drift into memories. I knew this would happen. I knew it had to happen. I'd tried to prepare myself. But, really, you can't.

My 'Nam memories were different from other Vets'. And that was part of the problem. I'd done everything I could to avoid the draft. I even asked my doctor to X-ray me in case some hidden medical problem might keep me out. Nope. I was inducted in September 1971 and shipped out the following May for a 10-month tour. I was assigned to a Criminal Investigation Division unit as a case processor on a big base near Saigon.

In those days of the war, morale was rock bottom and soldiers were heavy into drugs, fragging officers, shooting each other over girls. No one was more h**ed than guys in the rear, especially criminal investigators. Sometimes I felt like I was the enemy, not the Viet Cong. I never got shot at but I saw plenty of ugliness, plenty of things I wish I hadn't.

It wasn't just the crime-scene memories I wanted to forget when I got home. I hadn't been out in the jungle. I felt like I hadn't been a real soldier. Besides, everyone stateside h**ed the war by that point. "Don't want to talk about it," I'd mumble when people asked what it was like.

I didn't struggle with alcohol and drugs like some Vets did. I found work as a carpenter and stuck with it. Now I owned my own contracting business. I came to the Lord about 10 years after 'Nam and never looked back. Still, I had three failed marriages. I guess you could say I had trouble with relationships. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't fill that hole where I'd tried to bury my war memories, bury them alive.

Rumbling down the highway on my Harley, I told myself to snap out of it. At the end of each day's ride it was my job to say a blessing over dinner. That's what the chaplain did. Prayed before meals and was available to guys in need. It was the second part that worried me.

By day three, we were in the Rockies. The scenery was jaw-dropping, but I hadn't counted on the freezing temperatures in the mountains. I had on tons of layers--leather coat, vest, do-rag, gloves and liners. Still, I was numb with cold. I was in the missing man formation that morning. It started to snow. Flakes collected on my windshield 'till all I could see were the lights on the bike ahead of me. It was like snow falling on my memories too, making everything that much colder. What are you doing here, Wayne? I asked myself. I was almost 61 years old. This crazy ride wasn't going to change anything, especially not the past. I'd gone to war, done my duty and come home. I'd moved on. But had I?

Suddenly I heard a voice. Five simple words: Who are you riding for? My eyes fell on the space left in our formation for the missing soldier. A strange warmth came over me. I gripped my handlebars harder, squeezing back tears, and followed the road as it wound up toward the peaks.

A couple of days later, we were on the Great Plains. We fought to keep our bikes upright in gusty wind. Then it got muggy and we slogged through thunderstorms. All the time I kept my eyes on that missing man.

One morning, in Nebraska, I worked up my courage to say a little more than a prayer at breakfast. I talked about how I'd made my first -ever trip to see the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial back in 2003. "Because of where I served, I didn't know anyone who died," I said, glancing around the room to see what everyone thought about that. No one seemed to mind. "So what I'm going to do when we get to the Memorial," I continued, "is pick a name at random from the year I was in 'Nam and dedicate this ride to him."

The room fell silent. I could see men choking back tears. I bowed my head and said a blessing. The minute I sat down, guys were coming up to me.

"Thank you, " they kept saying.

And from that moment, the stories poured out. I heard about it all. Buddies k**led. Horrific sights. Lives wrecked back home. Booze, drugs, homelessness, prison. "No one understood then and they still don't," one guy said. "It's like the whole country just shoved it down in a hole. Like if they ignored it, it would go away." Just like I had.

We rode on. As we got closer to D.C., we started seeing banners draped from overpasses. Thank you for your service. Welcome home, soldier. I'd waited 40 years to see something like that.

At last we arrived. The entire city seemed to shake and rumble with the sound of motorcycles. The Mall was packed. Every war memorial--WWII, Korea, Vietnam--was obscured by crowds of guys in biker gear.

We made our way toward the VietNam Veteran's Memorial. It's a wall of black rock sunk into the ground of the Mall, inscribed with the names of more than 58,000 men and women k**led or missing in action. The Memorial is always crowded. That day, we could hardly get to it at first. Then, suddenly there we were, face-to-face with the reflective black stone. Some of the bikers had never seen the wall before. They approached hesitantly, eyes scanning the etched names for ones they recognized. I ran my finger across the rows until I reached my year in 'Nam. I stopped at a name...Billy Wyatt. I stood there a minute totally still. I wondered what Billy looked like, how he died. Slowly, I made a tracing of his name and closed my eyes to pray. Billy, I dedicate this ride to you. God rest your soul.

I heard a cry. I turned and saw one of the men from our group fall to the ground. He sat crumpled, head in hands, weeping. He'd found his best buddy's name.

I rushed over and knelt down to put an arm around him. Another guy joined us. For a moment we all just held each other. I tried to pray.

I don't remember exactly what I said. But the words didn't matter. What mattered at that moment was that wh**ever I'd feared at the start of our ride was gone. That hole inside me...the guys I'd ridden with, my brother's-in-arms, they helped to fill the emptiness. And there was Someone else with us too.

Who are you riding for? Maybe the better question was: Who rode for us? We'd fought and suffered. Few people celebrated our return home. But God was alongside us the whole time. He climbed down into that hole with us. He rode over the mountains and through the snow and rain. And now he was here, sharing our pain and lifting us up.

Holding my fellow Veterans there by The Wall, praying for them, it was like I heard that voice from the mountains all over again. And this time he said, "Welcome home, soldier."


R.I.P., Gene and Hank. SEMPER FI!
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', s... (show quote)



That is a very powerful story!! Thank you for sharing it. Again I must say thank you and God Bless you to all our Veterans!!

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Oct 21, 2014 13:49:39   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
slatten49 wrote:
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.

FAITHFUL WARRIOR...by Wayne Worden, Auburn, Calif.

The motorcycles lined up two by two in the hotel parking lot, a gleaming row of rumbling chrome and leather...guys in chaps and jackets covered with patches. It was a bright blue May morning in the Sierra Nevada foothills...a perfect day for the start of a long ride. The 40 of us gathered there were experienced bikers. Veterans, in more ways than one, we were. But everyone looked a little on edge. This was no ordinary ride. These were no ordinary men.

I know I was nervous. The ride leader, Steve Mulcahy, had just asked me for a favor. "Wayne," he said, "our chaplain just called. His bike broke down. Can you take over?"

Me? Chaplain? For a bunch of bikers? The guys in this parking lot all had one thing in common: We'd served in the military, and now we were about to embark on a 10-day cross-country trip to Washington, D.C., for a motorcycle rally on the National Mall called 'Rolling Thunder'. For two decades, motorcycle-riding Vets have descended on D.C. Memorial Day weekend to honor soldiers and bring attention to prisoners of war and those missing in action.

For years I'd wanted to do this ride organized by the National Veteran's Awareness Organization. At last I had the time and the money...but ride as Chaplain? Sure, I was a founding member of my local Christian Motorcyclist's Association chapter. But I was still coming to terms with what this ride meant for me. I still struggled with memories I'd spent the better part of my life trying to forget. How could I be a spiritual guide to these guys when I felt so shaky inside?

"Sure," I told Steve. What else could I say? How could I explain to him things I could hardly explain to myself?

"Mount up!" Steve called.

We pulled out of the parking lot and roared onto the highway. The missing man formation went in front: 5 guys in rows of two, with one space left empty to honor the unknown soldier. Everyone else was staggered in a line behind. Road guards pulled ahead at intersections to clear the way so we could keep rolling. It truly was a gorgeous day, the air scented with pine, but it didn't take long for my mind to drift into memories. I knew this would happen. I knew it had to happen. I'd tried to prepare myself. But, really, you can't.

My 'Nam memories were different from other Vets'. And that was part of the problem. I'd done everything I could to avoid the draft. I even asked my doctor to X-ray me in case some hidden medical problem might keep me out. Nope. I was inducted in September 1971 and shipped out the following May for a 10-month tour. I was assigned to a Criminal Investigation Division unit as a case processor on a big base near Saigon.

In those days of the war, morale was rock bottom and soldiers were heavy into drugs, fragging officers, shooting each other over girls. No one was more h**ed than guys in the rear, especially criminal investigators. Sometimes I felt like I was the enemy, not the Viet Cong. I never got shot at but I saw plenty of ugliness, plenty of things I wish I hadn't.

It wasn't just the crime-scene memories I wanted to forget when I got home. I hadn't been out in the jungle. I felt like I hadn't been a real soldier. Besides, everyone stateside h**ed the war by that point. "Don't want to talk about it," I'd mumble when people asked what it was like.

I didn't struggle with alcohol and drugs like some Vets did. I found work as a carpenter and stuck with it. Now I owned my own contracting business. I came to the Lord about 10 years after 'Nam and never looked back. Still, I had three failed marriages. I guess you could say I had trouble with relationships. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't fill that hole where I'd tried to bury my war memories, bury them alive.

Rumbling down the highway on my Harley, I told myself to snap out of it. At the end of each day's ride it was my job to say a blessing over dinner. That's what the chaplain did. Prayed before meals and was available to guys in need. It was the second part that worried me.

By day three, we were in the Rockies. The scenery was jaw-dropping, but I hadn't counted on the freezing temperatures in the mountains. I had on tons of layers--leather coat, vest, do-rag, gloves and liners. Still, I was numb with cold. I was in the missing man formation that morning. It started to snow. Flakes collected on my windshield 'till all I could see were the lights on the bike ahead of me. It was like snow falling on my memories too, making everything that much colder. What are you doing here, Wayne? I asked myself. I was almost 61 years old. This crazy ride wasn't going to change anything, especially not the past. I'd gone to war, done my duty and come home. I'd moved on. But had I?

Suddenly I heard a voice. Five simple words: Who are you riding for? My eyes fell on the space left in our formation for the missing soldier. A strange warmth came over me. I gripped my handlebars harder, squeezing back tears, and followed the road as it wound up toward the peaks.

A couple of days later, we were on the Great Plains. We fought to keep our bikes upright in gusty wind. Then it got muggy and we slogged through thunderstorms. All the time I kept my eyes on that missing man.

One morning, in Nebraska, I worked up my courage to say a little more than a prayer at breakfast. I talked about how I'd made my first -ever trip to see the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial back in 2003. "Because of where I served, I didn't know anyone who died," I said, glancing around the room to see what everyone thought about that. No one seemed to mind. "So what I'm going to do when we get to the Memorial," I continued, "is pick a name at random from the year I was in 'Nam and dedicate this ride to him."

The room fell silent. I could see men choking back tears. I bowed my head and said a blessing. The minute I sat down, guys were coming up to me.

"Thank you, " they kept saying.

And from that moment, the stories poured out. I heard about it all. Buddies k**led. Horrific sights. Lives wrecked back home. Booze, drugs, homelessness, prison. "No one understood then and they still don't," one guy said. "It's like the whole country just shoved it down in a hole. Like if they ignored it, it would go away." Just like I had.

We rode on. As we got closer to D.C., we started seeing banners draped from overpasses. Thank you for your service. Welcome home, soldier. I'd waited 40 years to see something like that.

At last we arrived. The entire city seemed to shake and rumble with the sound of motorcycles. The Mall was packed. Every war memorial--WWII, Korea, Vietnam--was obscured by crowds of guys in biker gear.

We made our way toward the VietNam Veteran's Memorial. It's a wall of black rock sunk into the ground of the Mall, inscribed with the names of more than 58,000 men and women k**led or missing in action. The Memorial is always crowded. That day, we could hardly get to it at first. Then, suddenly there we were, face-to-face with the reflective black stone. Some of the bikers had never seen the wall before. They approached hesitantly, eyes scanning the etched names for ones they recognized. I ran my finger across the rows until I reached my year in 'Nam. I stopped at a name...Billy Wyatt. I stood there a minute totally still. I wondered what Billy looked like, how he died. Slowly, I made a tracing of his name and closed my eyes to pray. Billy, I dedicate this ride to you. God rest your soul.

I heard a cry. I turned and saw one of the men from our group fall to the ground. He sat crumpled, head in hands, weeping. He'd found his best buddy's name.

I rushed over and knelt down to put an arm around him. Another guy joined us. For a moment we all just held each other. I tried to pray.

I don't remember exactly what I said. But the words didn't matter. What mattered at that moment was that wh**ever I'd feared at the start of our ride was gone. That hole inside me...the guys I'd ridden with, my brother's-in-arms, they helped to fill the emptiness. And there was Someone else with us too.

Who are you riding for? Maybe the better question was: Who rode for us? We'd fought and suffered. Few people celebrated our return home. But God was alongside us the whole time. He climbed down into that hole with us. He rode over the mountains and through the snow and rain. And now he was here, sharing our pain and lifting us up.

Holding my fellow Veterans there by The Wall, praying for them, it was like I heard that voice from the mountains all over again. And this time he said, "Welcome home, soldier."


R.I.P., Gene and Hank. SEMPER FI!
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', s... (show quote)


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Oct 21, 2014 13:58:55   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
slatten49 wrote:
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.

FAITHFUL WARRIOR...by Wayne Worden, Auburn, Calif.

The motorcycles lined up two by two in the hotel parking lot, a gleaming row of rumbling chrome and leather...guys in chaps and jackets covered with patches. It was a bright blue May morning in the Sierra Nevada foothills...a perfect day for the start of a long ride. The 40 of us gathered there were experienced bikers. Veterans, in more ways than one, we were. But everyone looked a little on edge. This was no ordinary ride. These were no ordinary men.

I know I was nervous. The ride leader, Steve Mulcahy, had just asked me for a favor. "Wayne," he said, "our chaplain just called. His bike broke down. Can you take over?"

Me? Chaplain? For a bunch of bikers? The guys in this parking lot all had one thing in common: We'd served in the military, and now we were about to embark on a 10-day cross-country trip to Washington, D.C., for a motorcycle rally on the National Mall called 'Rolling Thunder'. For two decades, motorcycle-riding Vets have descended on D.C. Memorial Day weekend to honor soldiers and bring attention to prisoners of war and those missing in action.

For years I'd wanted to do this ride organized by the National Veteran's Awareness Organization. At last I had the time and the money...but ride as Chaplain? Sure, I was a founding member of my local Christian Motorcyclist's Association chapter. But I was still coming to terms with what this ride meant for me. I still struggled with memories I'd spent the better part of my life trying to forget. How could I be a spiritual guide to these guys when I felt so shaky inside?

"Sure," I told Steve. What else could I say? How could I explain to him things I could hardly explain to myself?

"Mount up!" Steve called.

We pulled out of the parking lot and roared onto the highway. The missing man formation went in front: 5 guys in rows of two, with one space left empty to honor the unknown soldier. Everyone else was staggered in a line behind. Road guards pulled ahead at intersections to clear the way so we could keep rolling. It truly was a gorgeous day, the air scented with pine, but it didn't take long for my mind to drift into memories. I knew this would happen. I knew it had to happen. I'd tried to prepare myself. But, really, you can't.

My 'Nam memories were different from other Vets'. And that was part of the problem. I'd done everything I could to avoid the draft. I even asked my doctor to X-ray me in case some hidden medical problem might keep me out. Nope. I was inducted in September 1971 and shipped out the following May for a 10-month tour. I was assigned to a Criminal Investigation Division unit as a case processor on a big base near Saigon.

In those days of the war, morale was rock bottom and soldiers were heavy into drugs, fragging officers, shooting each other over girls. No one was more h**ed than guys in the rear, especially criminal investigators. Sometimes I felt like I was the enemy, not the Viet Cong. I never got shot at but I saw plenty of ugliness, plenty of things I wish I hadn't.

It wasn't just the crime-scene memories I wanted to forget when I got home. I hadn't been out in the jungle. I felt like I hadn't been a real soldier. Besides, everyone stateside h**ed the war by that point. "Don't want to talk about it," I'd mumble when people asked what it was like.

I didn't struggle with alcohol and drugs like some Vets did. I found work as a carpenter and stuck with it. Now I owned my own contracting business. I came to the Lord about 10 years after 'Nam and never looked back. Still, I had three failed marriages. I guess you could say I had trouble with relationships. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't fill that hole where I'd tried to bury my war memories, bury them alive.

Rumbling down the highway on my Harley, I told myself to snap out of it. At the end of each day's ride it was my job to say a blessing over dinner. That's what the chaplain did. Prayed before meals and was available to guys in need. It was the second part that worried me.

By day three, we were in the Rockies. The scenery was jaw-dropping, but I hadn't counted on the freezing temperatures in the mountains. I had on tons of layers--leather coat, vest, do-rag, gloves and liners. Still, I was numb with cold. I was in the missing man formation that morning. It started to snow. Flakes collected on my windshield 'till all I could see were the lights on the bike ahead of me. It was like snow falling on my memories too, making everything that much colder. What are you doing here, Wayne? I asked myself. I was almost 61 years old. This crazy ride wasn't going to change anything, especially not the past. I'd gone to war, done my duty and come home. I'd moved on. But had I?

Suddenly I heard a voice. Five simple words: Who are you riding for? My eyes fell on the space left in our formation for the missing soldier. A strange warmth came over me. I gripped my handlebars harder, squeezing back tears, and followed the road as it wound up toward the peaks.

A couple of days later, we were on the Great Plains. We fought to keep our bikes upright in gusty wind. Then it got muggy and we slogged through thunderstorms. All the time I kept my eyes on that missing man.

One morning, in Nebraska, I worked up my courage to say a little more than a prayer at breakfast. I talked about how I'd made my first -ever trip to see the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial back in 2003. "Because of where I served, I didn't know anyone who died," I said, glancing around the room to see what everyone thought about that. No one seemed to mind. "So what I'm going to do when we get to the Memorial," I continued, "is pick a name at random from the year I was in 'Nam and dedicate this ride to him."

The room fell silent. I could see men choking back tears. I bowed my head and said a blessing. The minute I sat down, guys were coming up to me.

"Thank you, " they kept saying.

And from that moment, the stories poured out. I heard about it all. Buddies k**led. Horrific sights. Lives wrecked back home. Booze, drugs, homelessness, prison. "No one understood then and they still don't," one guy said. "It's like the whole country just shoved it down in a hole. Like if they ignored it, it would go away." Just like I had.

We rode on. As we got closer to D.C., we started seeing banners draped from overpasses. Thank you for your service. Welcome home, soldier. I'd waited 40 years to see something like that.

At last we arrived. The entire city seemed to shake and rumble with the sound of motorcycles. The Mall was packed. Every war memorial--WWII, Korea, Vietnam--was obscured by crowds of guys in biker gear.

We made our way toward the VietNam Veteran's Memorial. It's a wall of black rock sunk into the ground of the Mall, inscribed with the names of more than 58,000 men and women k**led or missing in action. The Memorial is always crowded. That day, we could hardly get to it at first. Then, suddenly there we were, face-to-face with the reflective black stone. Some of the bikers had never seen the wall before. They approached hesitantly, eyes scanning the etched names for ones they recognized. I ran my finger across the rows until I reached my year in 'Nam. I stopped at a name...Billy Wyatt. I stood there a minute totally still. I wondered what Billy looked like, how he died. Slowly, I made a tracing of his name and closed my eyes to pray. Billy, I dedicate this ride to you. God rest your soul.

I heard a cry. I turned and saw one of the men from our group fall to the ground. He sat crumpled, head in hands, weeping. He'd found his best buddy's name.

I rushed over and knelt down to put an arm around him. Another guy joined us. For a moment we all just held each other. I tried to pray.

I don't remember exactly what I said. But the words didn't matter. What mattered at that moment was that wh**ever I'd feared at the start of our ride was gone. That hole inside me...the guys I'd ridden with, my brother's-in-arms, they helped to fill the emptiness. And there was Someone else with us too.

Who are you riding for? Maybe the better question was: Who rode for us? We'd fought and suffered. Few people celebrated our return home. But God was alongside us the whole time. He climbed down into that hole with us. He rode over the mountains and through the snow and rain. And now he was here, sharing our pain and lifting us up.

Holding my fellow Veterans there by The Wall, praying for them, it was like I heard that voice from the mountains all over again. And this time he said, "Welcome home, soldier."


R.I.P., Gene and Hank. SEMPER FI!
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', s... (show quote)


No one remembers the fallen better, or for longer, than those who fought beside them and lost some of themselves too. As long as there's a Veteran left alive, the muster remains complete, in their hearts and minds. We remember, so they serve still and will forever. God bless Sailors, Soldiers, Airmen and Marines.

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Oct 21, 2014 14:00:56   #
Floyd Hale
 
I have tears in my eyes as i read this , Great

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Oct 21, 2014 14:10:21   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Floyd Hale wrote:
I have tears in my eyes as i read this , Great


I had to edit my response more times then any rationale person because of the tears.

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Oct 21, 2014 15:11:01   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Thank you for posting that, people that weren't there or have gone through any of this don't understand.


[quote=slatten49]The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.

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Oct 21, 2014 16:53:45   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
[quote=bmac32]Thank you for posting that, people that weren't there or have gone through any of this don't understand.


slatten49 wrote:
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.



I was not there but the story hit hard anyway. Had to take a few minutes to stop shaking before I could respond. no, I will never understand so I cannot feel your pain, but I can and will pray for and with you all.
Mike

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Oct 21, 2014 19:04:59   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
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slatten49 wrote:
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.

FAITHFUL WARRIOR...by Wayne Worden, Auburn, Calif.

The motorcycles lined up two by two in the hotel parking lot, a gleaming row of rumbling chrome and leather...guys in chaps and jackets covered with patches. It was a bright blue May morning in the Sierra Nevada foothills...a perfect day for the start of a long ride. The 40 of us gathered there were experienced bikers. Veterans, in more ways than one, we were. But everyone looked a little on edge. This was no ordinary ride. These were no ordinary men.

I know I was nervous. The ride leader, Steve Mulcahy, had just asked me for a favor. "Wayne," he said, "our chaplain just called. His bike broke down. Can you take over?"

Me? Chaplain? For a bunch of bikers? The guys in this parking lot all had one thing in common: We'd served in the military, and now we were about to embark on a 10-day cross-country trip to Washington, D.C., for a motorcycle rally on the National Mall called 'Rolling Thunder'. For two decades, motorcycle-riding Vets have descended on D.C. Memorial Day weekend to honor soldiers and bring attention to prisoners of war and those missing in action.

For years I'd wanted to do this ride organized by the National Veteran's Awareness Organization. At last I had the time and the money...but ride as Chaplain? Sure, I was a founding member of my local Christian Motorcyclist's Association chapter. But I was still coming to terms with what this ride meant for me. I still struggled with memories I'd spent the better part of my life trying to forget. How could I be a spiritual guide to these guys when I felt so shaky inside?

"Sure," I told Steve. What else could I say? How could I explain to him things I could hardly explain to myself?

"Mount up!" Steve called.

We pulled out of the parking lot and roared onto the highway. The missing man formation went in front: 5 guys in rows of two, with one space left empty to honor the unknown soldier. Everyone else was staggered in a line behind. Road guards pulled ahead at intersections to clear the way so we could keep rolling. It truly was a gorgeous day, the air scented with pine, but it didn't take long for my mind to drift into memories. I knew this would happen. I knew it had to happen. I'd tried to prepare myself. But, really, you can't.

My 'Nam memories were different from other Vets'. And that was part of the problem. I'd done everything I could to avoid the draft. I even asked my doctor to X-ray me in case some hidden medical problem might keep me out. Nope. I was inducted in September 1971 and shipped out the following May for a 10-month tour. I was assigned to a Criminal Investigation Division unit as a case processor on a big base near Saigon.

In those days of the war, morale was rock bottom and soldiers were heavy into drugs, fragging officers, shooting each other over girls. No one was more h**ed than guys in the rear, especially criminal investigators. Sometimes I felt like I was the enemy, not the Viet Cong. I never got shot at but I saw plenty of ugliness, plenty of things I wish I hadn't.

It wasn't just the crime-scene memories I wanted to forget when I got home. I hadn't been out in the jungle. I felt like I hadn't been a real soldier. Besides, everyone stateside h**ed the war by that point. "Don't want to talk about it," I'd mumble when people asked what it was like.

I didn't struggle with alcohol and drugs like some Vets did. I found work as a carpenter and stuck with it. Now I owned my own contracting business. I came to the Lord about 10 years after 'Nam and never looked back. Still, I had three failed marriages. I guess you could say I had trouble with relationships. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't fill that hole where I'd tried to bury my war memories, bury them alive.

Rumbling down the highway on my Harley, I told myself to snap out of it. At the end of each day's ride it was my job to say a blessing over dinner. That's what the chaplain did. Prayed before meals and was available to guys in need. It was the second part that worried me.

By day three, we were in the Rockies. The scenery was jaw-dropping, but I hadn't counted on the freezing temperatures in the mountains. I had on tons of layers--leather coat, vest, do-rag, gloves and liners. Still, I was numb with cold. I was in the missing man formation that morning. It started to snow. Flakes collected on my windshield 'till all I could see were the lights on the bike ahead of me. It was like snow falling on my memories too, making everything that much colder. What are you doing here, Wayne? I asked myself. I was almost 61 years old. This crazy ride wasn't going to change anything, especially not the past. I'd gone to war, done my duty and come home. I'd moved on. But had I?

Suddenly I heard a voice. Five simple words: Who are you riding for? My eyes fell on the space left in our formation for the missing soldier. A strange warmth came over me. I gripped my handlebars harder, squeezing back tears, and followed the road as it wound up toward the peaks.

A couple of days later, we were on the Great Plains. We fought to keep our bikes upright in gusty wind. Then it got muggy and we slogged through thunderstorms. All the time I kept my eyes on that missing man.

One morning, in Nebraska, I worked up my courage to say a little more than a prayer at breakfast. I talked about how I'd made my first -ever trip to see the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial back in 2003. "Because of where I served, I didn't know anyone who died," I said, glancing around the room to see what everyone thought about that. No one seemed to mind. "So what I'm going to do when we get to the Memorial," I continued, "is pick a name at random from the year I was in 'Nam and dedicate this ride to him."

The room fell silent. I could see men choking back tears. I bowed my head and said a blessing. The minute I sat down, guys were coming up to me.

"Thank you, " they kept saying.

And from that moment, the stories poured out. I heard about it all. Buddies k**led. Horrific sights. Lives wrecked back home. Booze, drugs, homelessness, prison. "No one understood then and they still don't," one guy said. "It's like the whole country just shoved it down in a hole. Like if they ignored it, it would go away." Just like I had.

We rode on. As we got closer to D.C., we started seeing banners draped from overpasses. Thank you for your service. Welcome home, soldier. I'd waited 40 years to see something like that.

At last we arrived. The entire city seemed to shake and rumble with the sound of motorcycles. The Mall was packed. Every war memorial--WWII, Korea, Vietnam--was obscured by crowds of guys in biker gear.

We made our way toward the VietNam Veteran's Memorial. It's a wall of black rock sunk into the ground of the Mall, inscribed with the names of more than 58,000 men and women k**led or missing in action. The Memorial is always crowded. That day, we could hardly get to it at first. Then, suddenly there we were, face-to-face with the reflective black stone. Some of the bikers had never seen the wall before. They approached hesitantly, eyes scanning the etched names for ones they recognized. I ran my finger across the rows until I reached my year in 'Nam. I stopped at a name...Billy Wyatt. I stood there a minute totally still. I wondered what Billy looked like, how he died. Slowly, I made a tracing of his name and closed my eyes to pray. Billy, I dedicate this ride to you. God rest your soul.

I heard a cry. I turned and saw one of the men from our group fall to the ground. He sat crumpled, head in hands, weeping. He'd found his best buddy's name.

I rushed over and knelt down to put an arm around him. Another guy joined us. For a moment we all just held each other. I tried to pray.

I don't remember exactly what I said. But the words didn't matter. What mattered at that moment was that wh**ever I'd feared at the start of our ride was gone. That hole inside me...the guys I'd ridden with, my brother's-in-arms, they helped to fill the emptiness. And there was Someone else with us too.

Who are you riding for? Maybe the better question was: Who rode for us? We'd fought and suffered. Few people celebrated our return home. But God was alongside us the whole time. He climbed down into that hole with us. He rode over the mountains and through the snow and rain. And now he was here, sharing our pain and lifting us up.

Holding my fellow Veterans there by The Wall, praying for them, it was like I heard that voice from the mountains all over again. And this time he said, "Welcome home, soldier."


R.I.P., Gene and Hank. SEMPER FI!
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', s... (show quote)

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OUTSTANDING POST !!!!!!!!

May God bless all of our vets.

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Oct 21, 2014 20:43:38   #
rumitoid
 
slatten49 wrote:
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', sent to me by my younger brother and is not by or about me, but a fellow VietNam Vet whose story hit home. I know several who have experienced the same feelings. I apologize for the length of the article, but could not decide how, or if, to edit it. I dedicate this post/article to Eugene Radford and Henry Sparks.

FAITHFUL WARRIOR...by Wayne Worden, Auburn, Calif.

The motorcycles lined up two by two in the hotel parking lot, a gleaming row of rumbling chrome and leather...guys in chaps and jackets covered with patches. It was a bright blue May morning in the Sierra Nevada foothills...a perfect day for the start of a long ride. The 40 of us gathered there were experienced bikers. Veterans, in more ways than one, we were. But everyone looked a little on edge. This was no ordinary ride. These were no ordinary men.

I know I was nervous. The ride leader, Steve Mulcahy, had just asked me for a favor. "Wayne," he said, "our chaplain just called. His bike broke down. Can you take over?"

Me? Chaplain? For a bunch of bikers? The guys in this parking lot all had one thing in common: We'd served in the military, and now we were about to embark on a 10-day cross-country trip to Washington, D.C., for a motorcycle rally on the National Mall called 'Rolling Thunder'. For two decades, motorcycle-riding Vets have descended on D.C. Memorial Day weekend to honor soldiers and bring attention to prisoners of war and those missing in action.

For years I'd wanted to do this ride organized by the National Veteran's Awareness Organization. At last I had the time and the money...but ride as Chaplain? Sure, I was a founding member of my local Christian Motorcyclist's Association chapter. But I was still coming to terms with what this ride meant for me. I still struggled with memories I'd spent the better part of my life trying to forget. How could I be a spiritual guide to these guys when I felt so shaky inside?

"Sure," I told Steve. What else could I say? How could I explain to him things I could hardly explain to myself?

"Mount up!" Steve called.

We pulled out of the parking lot and roared onto the highway. The missing man formation went in front: 5 guys in rows of two, with one space left empty to honor the unknown soldier. Everyone else was staggered in a line behind. Road guards pulled ahead at intersections to clear the way so we could keep rolling. It truly was a gorgeous day, the air scented with pine, but it didn't take long for my mind to drift into memories. I knew this would happen. I knew it had to happen. I'd tried to prepare myself. But, really, you can't.

My 'Nam memories were different from other Vets'. And that was part of the problem. I'd done everything I could to avoid the draft. I even asked my doctor to X-ray me in case some hidden medical problem might keep me out. Nope. I was inducted in September 1971 and shipped out the following May for a 10-month tour. I was assigned to a Criminal Investigation Division unit as a case processor on a big base near Saigon.

In those days of the war, morale was rock bottom and soldiers were heavy into drugs, fragging officers, shooting each other over girls. No one was more h**ed than guys in the rear, especially criminal investigators. Sometimes I felt like I was the enemy, not the Viet Cong. I never got shot at but I saw plenty of ugliness, plenty of things I wish I hadn't.

It wasn't just the crime-scene memories I wanted to forget when I got home. I hadn't been out in the jungle. I felt like I hadn't been a real soldier. Besides, everyone stateside h**ed the war by that point. "Don't want to talk about it," I'd mumble when people asked what it was like.

I didn't struggle with alcohol and drugs like some Vets did. I found work as a carpenter and stuck with it. Now I owned my own contracting business. I came to the Lord about 10 years after 'Nam and never looked back. Still, I had three failed marriages. I guess you could say I had trouble with relationships. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't fill that hole where I'd tried to bury my war memories, bury them alive.

Rumbling down the highway on my Harley, I told myself to snap out of it. At the end of each day's ride it was my job to say a blessing over dinner. That's what the chaplain did. Prayed before meals and was available to guys in need. It was the second part that worried me.

By day three, we were in the Rockies. The scenery was jaw-dropping, but I hadn't counted on the freezing temperatures in the mountains. I had on tons of layers--leather coat, vest, do-rag, gloves and liners. Still, I was numb with cold. I was in the missing man formation that morning. It started to snow. Flakes collected on my windshield 'till all I could see were the lights on the bike ahead of me. It was like snow falling on my memories too, making everything that much colder. What are you doing here, Wayne? I asked myself. I was almost 61 years old. This crazy ride wasn't going to change anything, especially not the past. I'd gone to war, done my duty and come home. I'd moved on. But had I?

Suddenly I heard a voice. Five simple words: Who are you riding for? My eyes fell on the space left in our formation for the missing soldier. A strange warmth came over me. I gripped my handlebars harder, squeezing back tears, and followed the road as it wound up toward the peaks.

A couple of days later, we were on the Great Plains. We fought to keep our bikes upright in gusty wind. Then it got muggy and we slogged through thunderstorms. All the time I kept my eyes on that missing man.

One morning, in Nebraska, I worked up my courage to say a little more than a prayer at breakfast. I talked about how I'd made my first -ever trip to see the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial back in 2003. "Because of where I served, I didn't know anyone who died," I said, glancing around the room to see what everyone thought about that. No one seemed to mind. "So what I'm going to do when we get to the Memorial," I continued, "is pick a name at random from the year I was in 'Nam and dedicate this ride to him."

The room fell silent. I could see men choking back tears. I bowed my head and said a blessing. The minute I sat down, guys were coming up to me.

"Thank you, " they kept saying.

And from that moment, the stories poured out. I heard about it all. Buddies k**led. Horrific sights. Lives wrecked back home. Booze, drugs, homelessness, prison. "No one understood then and they still don't," one guy said. "It's like the whole country just shoved it down in a hole. Like if they ignored it, it would go away." Just like I had.

We rode on. As we got closer to D.C., we started seeing banners draped from overpasses. Thank you for your service. Welcome home, soldier. I'd waited 40 years to see something like that.

At last we arrived. The entire city seemed to shake and rumble with the sound of motorcycles. The Mall was packed. Every war memorial--WWII, Korea, Vietnam--was obscured by crowds of guys in biker gear.

We made our way toward the VietNam Veteran's Memorial. It's a wall of black rock sunk into the ground of the Mall, inscribed with the names of more than 58,000 men and women k**led or missing in action. The Memorial is always crowded. That day, we could hardly get to it at first. Then, suddenly there we were, face-to-face with the reflective black stone. Some of the bikers had never seen the wall before. They approached hesitantly, eyes scanning the etched names for ones they recognized. I ran my finger across the rows until I reached my year in 'Nam. I stopped at a name...Billy Wyatt. I stood there a minute totally still. I wondered what Billy looked like, how he died. Slowly, I made a tracing of his name and closed my eyes to pray. Billy, I dedicate this ride to you. God rest your soul.

I heard a cry. I turned and saw one of the men from our group fall to the ground. He sat crumpled, head in hands, weeping. He'd found his best buddy's name.

I rushed over and knelt down to put an arm around him. Another guy joined us. For a moment we all just held each other. I tried to pray.

I don't remember exactly what I said. But the words didn't matter. What mattered at that moment was that wh**ever I'd feared at the start of our ride was gone. That hole inside me...the guys I'd ridden with, my brother's-in-arms, they helped to fill the emptiness. And there was Someone else with us too.

Who are you riding for? Maybe the better question was: Who rode for us? We'd fought and suffered. Few people celebrated our return home. But God was alongside us the whole time. He climbed down into that hole with us. He rode over the mountains and through the snow and rain. And now he was here, sharing our pain and lifting us up.

Holding my fellow Veterans there by The Wall, praying for them, it was like I heard that voice from the mountains all over again. And this time he said, "Welcome home, soldier."


R.I.P., Gene and Hank. SEMPER FI!
The following is an article out of 'GuidePosts', s... (show quote)


Few can even guess in their wildest imagination what it is like to be there for a fellow soldier or a fallen comrade. You know my story: nice gig at headquarters; Never fired a shot; 3 hot squares, air-conditioning, and a full uninterrupted night's sleep. Club Med. But down the road were a few friends from basic and AIT: Cameron, an easy-going Southerner, was k**led deplaning. A good-looking guy, smart and civil. Five others I sort of knew were seriously injured in that attack.

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Oct 21, 2014 21:01:03   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Few can even guess in their wildest imagination what it is like to be there for a fellow soldier or a fallen comrade. You know my story: nice gig at headquarters; Never fired a shot; 3 hot squares, air-conditioning, and a full uninterrupted night's sleep. Club Med. But down the road were a few friends from basic and AIT: Cameron, an easy-going Southerner, was k**led deplaning. A good-looking guy, smart and civil. Five others I sort of knew were seriously injured in that attack.


I was hoping this might help relieve some of what has been called 'survivors guilt'. That is not a burden or pain anyone should carry with them. Welcome Home, Rumitoid. We all did the job we were assigned. "All gave some...some gave all".

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Oct 21, 2014 21:08:59   #
rumitoid
 
slatten49 wrote:
I was hoping this might help relieve some of what has been called 'survivors guilt'. That is not a burden or pain anyone should carry with them. Welcome Home, Rumitoid. We all did the job we were assigned. "All gave some...some gave all".


Thank you, but it does not help. I could have easily asked to be re-assigned: I was 11C. My expertise in mortars may have saved lives, our brothers. Yet I never said a word. How much blood is on my hands?

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Oct 22, 2014 11:44:47   #
greyfox Loc: western mass.
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thank you, but it does not help. I could have easily asked to be re-assigned: I was 11C. My expertise in mortars may have saved lives, our brothers. Yet I never said a word. How much blood is on my hands?


You did like many of us did-----did not fight but were there and able if needed. A very nice post.

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Oct 23, 2014 23:03:34   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thank you, but it does not help. I could have easily asked to be re-assigned: I was 11C. My expertise in mortars may have saved lives, our brothers. Yet I never said a word. How much blood is on my hands?


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Rumi,
It's not for you to question the "what could've been's" or the "maybe if I did this or that different's." Our job, as survivors, is to be sure that the memories of those who didn't make it back alive, are kept alive in the present. It's OUR job to use our memories of the fallen to keep the future generations from repeating the same mistakes that cost our buddies their lives, and gives us nightmares still. But, it's NOT our job to to blame ourselves for decisions that were made by others that may or may not have directly or indirectly resulted in the deaths of our buddies.

Rumi, God didn't creat us to be gods. He created us to worship Him and to believe and trust in Him and His decisions regarding our lives. If we had the insight your wishing you had then, we'd be close to being gods, ourselves. Even though we have free will, there's nothing biblical to deny Gods divine intervention in our lives and decision-making any time He chooses. It may be His will that you not ask to be reassigned. But, I seriously doubt it's His will that you choose to blame yourself for the deaths of your brothers-in-arms. That would be YOUR decision, derived from YOUR free will.

For you to think that IF you'd asked to be reassigned, MAYBE your buddies would still be alive, is pure speculation in your part. How do you know, for sure, that if you'd been reassigned, that you'd not simply been another number added to the weekly body count of American dead? How can you be absolutely sure that your presence would've changed anything? Would've spared the lives of anybody? You don't and you can't.

All you do know is that you miss your friends and have decided that, somehow, it's your fault that they're not here. What kind of logic is that? Who or what gave you the idea that the deaths of your friends are your fault? Have you given any thought as to how are your current feelings of sorrow and self-blame are affecting the relationships you now have?

Is your blaming yourself for occurances in the past, over which you had very little to no control, doing yourself any good, in the present? Have you noticed if your self-serving feelings over the past are stealing precious moments, and larger periods of time, from the wonderful and memorable moments you could be focusing on with the loved ones in your life, now?

Rumi, you can't go back in time and change it. You can accept, that your part in events over which you had no control, may or may not have had any influence that may or may not have changed any outcomes of the fate of your buddies. For you to blame yourself for their deaths is totally without merit or reason.

As the XMAS season is approaching, what's that XMAS movie that plays non-stop, with a guy named George who, because of a series of bad events, tries to k**l himself, thinking that the world would've been a better place without home? George's guardian angel, who's trying to earn his wings, takes George through what the past and present of George's loved ones would be like without him. I'm not saying your suicidal, by any means. All I want you to do is see that when feeling depressed, speculating over the "what have been's" and the "what might be's," is just that, speculation; unfounded speculation, I may add. There's even been a movie made about it! 8-)

If you continue to have these feelings, I strongly encourage you to talk to a mental health professional. For you to continue to have these feelings of blame isn't healthy for you nor is it fair to your loved ones. :thumbup:

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Oct 23, 2014 23:25:57   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
alabuck wrote:
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Rumi,
It's not for you to question the "what could've been's" or the "maybe if I did this or that different's." Our job, as survivors, is to be sure that the memories of those who didn't make it back alive, are kept alive in the present. It's OUR job to use our memories of the fallen to keep the future generations from repeating the same mistakes that cost our buddies their lives, and gives us nightmares still. But, it's NOT our job to to blame ourselves for decisions that were made by others that may or may not have directly or indirectly resulted in the deaths of our buddies.

Rumi, God didn't creat us to be gods. He created us to worship Him and to believe and trust in Him and His decisions regarding our lives. If we had the insight your wishing you had then, we'd be close to being gods, ourselves. Even though we have free will, there's nothing biblical to deny Gods divine intervention in our lives and decision-making any time He chooses. It may be His will that you not ask to be reassigned. But, I seriously doubt it's His will that you choose to blame yourself for the deaths of your brothers-in-arms. That would be YOUR decision, derived from YOUR free will.

For you to think that IF you'd asked to be reassigned, MAYBE your buddies would still be alive, is pure speculation in your part. How do you know, for sure, that if you'd been reassigned, that you'd not simply been another number added to the weekly body count of American dead? How can you be absolutely sure that your presence would've changed anything? Would've spared the lives of anybody? You don't and you can't.

All you do know is that you miss your friends and have decided that, somehow, it's your fault that they're not here. What kind of logic is that? Who or what gave you the idea that the deaths of your friends are your fault? Have you given any thought as to how are your current feelings of sorrow and self-blame are affecting the relationships you now have?

Is your blaming yourself for occurances in the past, over which you had very little to no control, doing yourself any good, in the present? Have you noticed if your self-serving feelings over the past are stealing precious moments, and larger periods of time, from the wonderful and memorable moments you could be focusing on with the loved ones in your life, now?

Rumi, you can't go back in time and change it. You can accept, that your part in events over which you had no control, may or may not have had any influence that may or may not have changed any outcomes of the fate of your buddies. For you to blame yourself for their deaths is totally without merit or reason.

As the XMAS season is approaching, what's that XMAS movie that plays non-stop, with a guy named George who, because of a series of bad events, tries to k**l himself, thinking that the world would've been a better place without home? George's guardian angel, who's trying to earn his wings, takes George through what the past and present of George's loved ones would be like without him. I'm not saying your suicidal, by any means. All I want you to do is see that when feeling depressed, speculating over the "what have been's" and the "what might be's," is just that, speculation; unfounded speculation, I may add. There's even been a movie made about it! 8-)

If you continue to have these feelings, I strongly encourage you to talk to a mental health professional. For you to continue to have these feelings of blame isn't healthy for you nor is it fair to your loved ones. :thumbup:
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Thank you, Alabuck, for a great post! BTW, the movie you refer to is 'It's A Wonderful LIfe', with Jimmy Stewart in the main role as George Bailey, with a great supporting cast. :thumbup:

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