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May 20, 2022 21:20:09   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
kemmer wrote:
Of course many of our Founding Fathers were slave owners. And women were considered the property of their husbands and/or fathers—and of course they couldn’t vote for anything.


The greatest slave owners were middle eastern and blacks with far more whites in slavery than ever blacks in America. Get your history correct their were slave owners but not treated poorly rather they didn't want to leave after our founding right wing founders set the 14th amendment along with freeing slaves.

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May 20, 2022 21:21:45   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
God was not an integral part of all government.
The founders were not Christians,
They were deists.they had a belief in an all knowing God , but that was it.
As I understand that it is a half step away from Atheists.
Religion was intentionally kept out of government.
For the very reason you are trying to inflict it today.


You understand nothing!

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May 20, 2022 21:22:33   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The founders were not .
And they recognized that having religion involved in government would be a terrible thing. For you.
Because, slowly it would take away the power they have given to you.
Along with uncontrolled corporations, they were also against, because they also would be capable of taking power away from the People.
But youz fools just can’t stop giving it all away ‘
Good job !!!!!
Now you’re nobody !
Enjoy your new rank in America.



Your full of it and embarrassingly ignorant to history.
I suggested ypu review the speeches and letters of our founders to know their intentions but you would instead hold onto lies of the left

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May 20, 2022 21:26:54   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Milosia2 wrote:
The founders were not .
And they recognized that having religion involved in government would be a terrible thing. For you.
Because, slowly it would take away the power they have given to you.
Along with uncontrolled corporations, they were also against, because they also would be capable of taking power away from the People.
But youz fools just can’t stop giving it all away ‘
Good job !!!!!
Now you’re nobody !
Enjoy your new rank in America.



You can understand empirical evidence?
https://www.learnreligions.com/christian-quotes-of-the-founding-fathers-700789999

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May 20, 2022 21:27:36   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Your full of it and embarrassingly ignorant to history.
I suggested ypu review the speeches and letters of our founders to know their intentions but you would instead hold onto lies of the left

https://www.learnreligions.com/christian-quotes-of-the-founding-fathers-700789999

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May 20, 2022 21:28:02   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
dtucker300 wrote:
You understand nothing!


Au contrare , mon Frere!

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May 20, 2022 21:28:30   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Au contrare , mon Frere!


https://www.learnreligions.com/christian-quotes-of-the-founding-fathers-700789999

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May 20, 2022 21:29:06   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
jack sequim wa wrote:


I just offered you empirical evidence.

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May 20, 2022 21:31:22   #
Liberty Tree
 
Milosia2 wrote:
God was not an integral part of all government.
The founders were not Christians,
They were deists.they had a belief in an all knowing God , but that was it.
As I understand that it is a half step away from Atheists.
Religion was intentionally kept out of government.
For the very reason you are trying to inflict it today.


You are so misinformed. Quit believing everything your ELWNJ sites tell you. Some of the founders were diests, but most were Christian. I bet you do not know these facts for example.
Christian church services were held in the Capitol for years.
The first Congress appropriated money to buy Bibles
The first Speaker of the House was a pastor.
The first readers for children in school were filled with Buble stories.
Diests would not see the need for chaplains in Congress.
Educate yourself for these are just a few examples.

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May 20, 2022 21:36:58   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Au contrare , mon Frere!


Why are leftist Democrats using secularism to alter religious law?

The First Amendment guarantees Freedom of Religion, not freedom from religion.
Tu n'es pas mon frère ! Vous êtes un rube ignorant et sans instruction

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May 20, 2022 21:40:05   #
Liberty Tree
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Deists are nearly Atheists.
And your perception of the God he was referring to might not be the one you incorrectly assume it was.
Atheists do believe in God.
Or they wouldn’t be atheists .
Thank you for your astute guidance but , I can do better on my own.

Hartmann does not lie. He goes out of his way to assure you of the truth.
You can question him anytime , he has a daily show where he can be reached and has said, anyone from the right trying to spin what he says gets front of the talk line privileges.
Call him out any day !
Just calling him a liar is so shallow and uneducated.
Call him and air your grievances with him.
You get first in line phone privileges.
Deists are nearly Atheists. br And your perception... (show quote)


He did lie and spin away the truth, plus ignoring facts that do not suit his narrative. . The fact that you do not have the integrity to admit it does not change that.

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May 20, 2022 21:41:42   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: If you ain't Dutch you ain't much.
 
Milosia2 wrote:
That covers insurrections.


Actually it covers riots.

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May 20, 2022 21:43:38   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: If you ain't Dutch you ain't much.
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Why is the Supreme Court using religious belief to alter secular law?
Alito's draft opinion is full of specious legal and historical language — but it's just religious doctrine in drag

By THOM HARTMANN
PUBLISHED MAY 10, 2022 2:16PM (EDT)
An activist with The Center for Popular Democracy Action holds a photo of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito as they block an intersection during a demonstration in front of the U.S. Supreme Court on December 01, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
An activist with The Center for Popular Democracy Action holds a photo of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito as they block an intersection during a demonstration in front of the U.S. Supreme Court on December 01, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
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Democrats are generally disinclined to discuss religion, much less debate it.

They like to point out that Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin were famously atheist, Thomas Jefferson and dozens of other high-profile people in the founding generation were deists (a close cousin to atheists and certainly not Christians), and that in two different places the Constitution explicitly rejects religion interfering with government or vice versa.

But it's time to discuss religion whether we like it or not, because it's no longer knocking on our door: Sam Alito just sent it into the house with a no-knock warrant and stun grenades that threaten to catch the place on fire.

Alito's Dobbs v. Jackson draft opinion rests on two main premises.

The first is that the Supreme Court has no business recognizing a "right" that isn't rooted in the nation's "history and tradition."

This right-wing canard has been around for years, and has been used to argue against pretty much ever form of modernity from integrated public schools to, more recently, same-sex marriage. It's a convenient pole around which you can twist pretty much any argument you want, because American history and tradition have been all over the map during the past roughly 240 years.

There you have it in a nutshell !

*** The first is that the Supreme Court has no business recognizing a "right" that isn't rooted in the nation's "history and tradition."***
There is no such right , presently.
Why is the Supreme Court using religious belief to... (show quote)


Merry Christmas!

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May 20, 2022 21:47:17   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
Actually it covers riots.


Milosia est une idiote. Milosia es una idiota. Milosia ist ein Idiot. Милосия идиотка.

Doesn't matter what language Milosia speaks. It comes out the same way in every language.

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May 20, 2022 21:52:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Why is the Supreme Court using religious belief to alter secular law?
Because secular law has no objective moral referent.
Secular progressives can define their own morality and it can mean anything they want it to mean.
Secular morality allows the remorseless, merciless wholesale slaughter of unborn babies.

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