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May 24, 2022 14:04:48   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Another good one:
Whining Crying R**ting - Hillary Millennial Theme Song
https://youtu.be/aVlHZh5dvbA


Super! I wonder if Mel2 was somewhere in that video?

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May 24, 2022 14:37:03   #
kemmer
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Q***rs of the Vatican and their monasteries.
You really are ignorant - instead. Or this is a game with you
All the banned books and gospels from the bible and the first flood account before the Hebrews were a brain fart.. How could it be you don't know of any them because they are well documented.

If it weren’t for the monasteries from the 5th to the 12th centuries, you wouldn’t have any scripture to b***h over.

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May 24, 2022 16:17:22   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
kemmer wrote:
If it weren’t for the monasteries from the 5th to the 12th centuries, you wouldn’t have any scripture to b***h over.


They were to tell the t***h of the human story as they knew it, as the whole t***h and nothing but it. They did not even come close. They drastically edited it.

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May 24, 2022 17:04:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kemmer wrote:
If it weren’t for the monasteries from the 5th to the 12th centuries, you wouldn’t have any scripture to b***h over.
I hope you don't think this puzzling ambiguity is a history lesson?
Surely you don't believe monastery monks are solely responsible for the t***smission of Biblical text.

You have not accounted for the Masoretic Text (100 A.D.), the Samaritan Pentateuch ( 3rd to 2nd century B.C. The oldest existing manuscript is dated to the 13th century B.C.), the Qumran Manuscripts (Dead Sea Scrolls 250 B.C. to 50 A.D.),
Ancient Hebrew Manuscripts: including the Nash Papyrus, Masada, Murabbar’at and the Cairo Genizah),
the Septuagint: (250-100 B.C.), Jewish Targums: Aramaic paraphrase t***slations of the Old Testament 3rd and 4th centuries A.D., These t***slations have a much older tradition dating back to the time of Ezra.

The 1599 Geneva Bible and the King James Bible (1611 A.D.) are considered the most faithful t***smissions of the original texts. The main body texts are virtually identical. The only difference between these two is the commentary the Protestant scholars included as marginal notes in the Geneva Bible (the world's first study Bible prepared for the common man).

One of the many reasons King James commissioned the KJV were the marginal notes in the Geneva Bible.
The marginal commentary challenged the king's authority as an absolute monarch.
He was none too happy about that.

FYI: The character you responded to is a conspiracy nut. He's swallowed them all.
In his fantasy world the Bible and the U.S. Constitution are not legitimate instruments for worship or governance.
According to Ri-chard, following Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown, George Washington signed an agreement with King George that put the US of A under the scepter of the British crown. IOW, Elizabeth is our queen.

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May 24, 2022 18:08:27   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I hope you don't think this puzzling ambiguity is a history lesson?
Surely you don't believe monastery monks are solely responsible for the t***smission of Biblical text.

You have not accounted for the Masoretic Text (100 A.D.), the Samaritan Pentateuch ( 3rd to 2nd century B.C. The oldest existing manuscript is dated to the 13th century B.C.), the Qumran Manuscripts (Dead Sea Scrolls 250 B.C. to 50 A.D.),
Ancient Hebrew Manuscripts: including the Nash Papyrus, Masada, Murabbar’at and the Cairo Genizah),
the Septuagint: (250-100 B.C.), Jewish Targums: Aramaic paraphrase t***slations of the Old Testament 3rd and 4th centuries A.D., These t***slations have a much older tradition dating back to the time of Ezra.

The 1599 Geneva Bible and the King James Bible (1611 A.D.) are considered the most faithful t***smissions of the original texts. The main body texts are virtually identical. The only difference between these two is the commentary the Protestant scholars included as marginal notes in the Geneva Bible (the world's first study Bible prepared for the common man).

One of the many reasons King James commissioned the KJV were the marginal notes in the Geneva Bible.
The marginal commentary challenged the king's authority as an absolute monarch.
He was none too happy about that.

FYI: The character you responded to is a conspiracy nut. He's swallowed them all.
In his fantasy world the Bible and the U.S. Constitution are not legitimate instruments for worship or governance.
According to Ri-chard, following Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown, George Washington signed an agreement with King George that put the US of A under the scepter of the British crown. IOW, Elizabeth is our queen.
I hope you don't think this puzzling ambiguity is ... (show quote)


I am no conspiracy character, that's you for promoting false hoods.
Here is the conspiracy and it is well documented. So stop being a conn artist and deceiver.
George Washington, Congress or Senate never created a document that claimed he or the American patriots were the victors of the Revolutionary War/War of Independence in 1781.. Fact
Washington's surrender is noted on the Senate Record Senate Resolution 301: Censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy (1954) | National Archives There were history books in private school before they were purged as, http://newensign.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Legions-of-Satan-Banning.pdf
The only Document that is formally and legally recognized for ending the war was written by the victor, King George III and his 4 noble men as English Esquires. The King claimed his power and authority over congress and the United States of America as an agent of the Holy Roman Empire. This too is well documented and not by me but at every law school teaching the English Rule of Law form, and never to teach what Rule of Law form all 13 Colonies agreed to. Yes, that too is well documented in history books never to enter Public schools or their libraries. You Mr. Blade have to search for it - but won't because it hurts your BS narrative...


Due to these prior actions just before Washington was sworn into office as POTUS, as his reward for being a good fellow Mason, the Congress and Senate changed the title of the organic constitution for purposes of taking the oath of office in 1789. he would and others would to this date take an other to a document that does not exist to themselves. It is of them not We the People for the United States of America. This too is well documented by your government Mr. Blade. I did not create any of those documents the founder did or is was recorded as such on tyour government's records.

1791 We got a foreign Banking System, an English one with all foreign stockholders... Remember the King made himself the Arch-treasure of the united states of America in his 1783 Treaty. Always follow the money for fraud and deceit. And that is also well documented and who done it with King George. That would be George Washington, Alex Hamilton, Congress and Senate in agreement with the King.

And to think this documented history is something you called my conspiracy knowing I had nothing to do with it. Again, stop you BS and deceit. I will continue to fight for what the American Patriots fought for but lost.

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May 24, 2022 22:56:20   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Then why do states refer to them as an unborn child in laws making it a crime to cause their death in an illegal act?


Religious influence.

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May 24, 2022 23:01:03   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
WTF are you babbling about?
This is absolute nonsense.

The "Jefferson Bible" was his own creation.

The Bible of the Pilgrims, the colonists, and our founders was the KJV or the 1599 Geneva Bible.
The KJV was the primary Bible in our American public, private and church schools,
until the early 1900s when secular progressivism reared its ugly head in American politics.


King James was a p*******e and rented hookers out the back doors of his castle.

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May 24, 2022 23:17:45   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Milosia2 wrote:
King James was a p*******e and rented hookers out the back doors of his castle.


In 1606 King James stole gold silver and copper from the American Native lands as well. And he passed shares of their gold silver and copper on to his heirs in perpetuity. that was better than selling books.

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May 24, 2022 23:27:18   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
keepuphope wrote:
You slander and demean God as the reason when in t***h it's a medical controversy as the "fetus" is a human and a completely separate entity from the mother. She may nurture and feed the child as in ALL NATURE mammals do,but once fully developed is no more a part of the woman's body than it was in utero. It's biology 101 so don't blame religion.


It is not up to religion to decide what a woman does or doesn’t do for her health.
It is not up to government to decide what a woman does for own health.
RoevWade was written to protect women who made the decision to terminate their pregnancy for what ever reason.
And to do this safely instead of in back alleys and flights to Mexico.
Protecting their rights.
This in my opinion is the basis for roevwade.
This recent hubbub is nothing more than a religious sect trying to inflict their sharia law on our citizens.
These women are not murderers , lowlifes , degenerates or any of the nastiness they’ve been called by the Jesus loving so called
Pious believers.
To me , they are a d********g bunch masquerading as true believers.speaking the t***h of Jesus.
The American Taliban inflicting Sharia Law.

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May 24, 2022 23:33:08   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It is not up to religion to decide what a woman does or doesn’t do for her health.
It is not up to government to decide what a woman does for own health.
RoevWade was written to protect women who made the decision to terminate their pregnancy for what ever reason.
And to do this safely instead of in back alleys and flights to Mexico.
Protecting their rights.
This in my opinion is the basis for roevwade.
This recent hubbub is nothing more than a religious sect trying to inflict their sharia law on our citizens.
These women are not murderers , lowlifes , degenerates or any of the nastiness they’ve been called by the Jesus loving so called
Pious believers.
To me , they are a d********g bunch masquerading as true believers.speaking the t***h of Jesus.
The American Taliban inflicting Sharia Law.
It is not up to religion to decide what a woman do... (show quote)

A******ns are not for a woman's health it's for convenience period. The very few that it's actually for her health are not begrudge at all.

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May 24, 2022 23:34:12   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It is not up to religion to decide what a woman does or doesn’t do for her health.
It is not up to government to decide what a woman does for own health.
RoevWade was written to protect women who made the decision to terminate their pregnancy for what ever reason.
And to do this safely instead of in back alleys and flights to Mexico.
Protecting their rights.
This in my opinion is the basis for roevwade.
This recent hubbub is nothing more than a religious sect trying to inflict their sharia law on our citizens.
These women are not murderers , lowlifes , degenerates or any of the nastiness they’ve been called by the Jesus loving so called
Pious believers.
To me , they are a d********g bunch masquerading as true believers.speaking the t***h of Jesus.
The American Taliban inflicting Sharia Law.
It is not up to religion to decide what a woman do... (show quote)


Protecting their rights. who gave them the right to murder their baby and have it anatony sold for big bucks. Is the mother getting a piece of that action?

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May 25, 2022 00:12:10   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ri-chard wrote:
I am no conspiracy character, that's you for promoting false hoods.
Here is the conspiracy and it is well documented. .
You are "no conspiracy character" yet you hand us a well-documented conspiracy.

Senate Resolution 301: Censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy (1954)

Resolved, That the Senator from Wisconsin, Mr. McCarthy, failed to cooperate with the Subcommittee on Privileges and E******ns of the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration in clearing up matters referred to that subcommittee which concerned his conduct as a Senator and affected the honor of the Senate and, instead, repeatedly abused the subcommittee and its members who were trying to carry out assigned duties, thereby obstructing the constitutional processes of the Senate, and that this conduct of the Senator from Wisconsin, Mr. McCarthy, is contrary to senatorial traditions and is hereby condemned.

Sec 2. The Senator from Wisconsin, Mr. McCarthy, in writing to the chairman of the Select Committee to Study Censure Charges (Mr. Watkins) after the Select Committee had issued its report and before the report was presented to the Senate charging three members of the Select Committee with "deliberate deception" and "fraud" for failure to disqualify themselves; in stating to the press on November 4, 1954, that the special Senate session that was to begin November 8, 1954, was a "lynch-party"; in repeatedly describing this special Senate session as a "lynch bee" in a nationwide television and radio show on November 7, 1954; in stating to the public press on November 13, 1954, that the chairman of the Select Committee (Mr. Watkins) was guilty of "the most unusual, most cowardly things I've ever heard of" and stating further: "I expected he would be afraid to answer the questions, but didn't think he'd be stupid enough to make a public statement"; and in characterizing the said committee as the "unwitting handmaiden," "involuntary agent" and "attorneys-in-fact" of the C*******t Party and in charging that the said committee in writing its report "imitated C*******t methods -- that it distorted, misrepresented, and omitted in its effort to manufacture a plausible rationalization" in support of its recommendations to the Senate, which characterizations and charges were contained in a statement released to the press and inserted in the Congressional Record of November 10, 1954, acted contrary to senatorial ethics and tended to bring the Senate into dishonor and disrepute, to obstruct the constitutional processes of the Senate, and to impair its dignity; and such conduct is hereby condemned.




Articles of Capitulation, Yorktown, Virginia, October 19, 1781

The following document is the negotiated terms of surrender at Yorktown, Virginia
between General Charles Lord Cornwallis and General George Washington.

Settled between his Excellency General Washington, Commander-in-Chief of the combined Forces of America and France; his Excellency the Count de Rochambeau, Lieutenant-General of the Armies of the King of France, Great Cross of the royal and military Order of St. Louis, commanding the auxiliary Troops of his Most Christian Majesty in America; and his Excellency the Count de Grasse, Lieutenant-General of the Naval Armies of his Most Christian Majesty, Commander of the Order of St. Louis, Commander-in-Chief of the Naval Army of France in the Chesapeake, on the one Part; and the Right Honorable Earl Cornwallis, Lieutenant-General of his Britannic Majesty’s Forces, commanding the Garrisons of York and Gloucester; and Thomas Symonds, Esquire, commanding his Britannic Majesty’s Naval Forces in York River in Virginia, on the other Part.


ARTICLE I. The garrisons of York and Gloucester including the officers and seamen of his Britannic Majesty’s ships, as well as other mariners, to surrender themselves prisoners of war to the combined forces of America and France. The land troops to remain prisoners to the United States, the navy to the naval army of his Most Christian Majesty.
Granted.

Article II. The artillery, arms, accoutrements, military chest, and public stores of every denomination, shall be delivered unimpaired to the heads of departments appointed to receive them.
Granted.

Article III. At twelve o’clock this day the two redoubts on the left flank of York to be delivered, the one to a detachment of American infantry, the other to a detachment of French grenadiers.
Granted.

The garrison of York will march out to a place to be appointed in front of the posts, at two o’clock precisely, with shouldered arms, colors cased, and drums beating a British or German march. They are then to ground their arms, and return to their encampments, where they will remain until they are despatched to the places of their destination. Two works on the Gloucester side will be delivered at one o’clock to a detachment of French and American troops appointed to possess them. The garrison will march out at three o’clock in the afternoon; the cavalry with their swords drawn, trumpets sounding, and the infantry in the manner prescribed for the garrison of York. They are likewise to return to their encampments until they can be finally marched off.

Article IV. Officers are to retain their side-arms. Both officers and soldiers to keep their private property of every kind; and no part of their baggage or papers to be at any time subject to search or inspection. The baggage and papers of officers and soldiers taken during the siege to be likewise preserved for them.
Granted.

It is understood that any property obviously belonging to the inhabitants of these States, in the possession of the garrison, shall be subject to be reclaimed.

Article V. The soldiers to be kept in Virginia, Maryland, or Pennsylvania, and as much by regiments as possible, and supplied with the same rations of provisions as are allowed to soldiers in the service of America. A field-officer from each nation, to wit, British, Anspach, and Hessian, and other officers on parole, in the proportion of one to fifty men to be allowed to reside near their respective regiments, to visit them frequently, and be witnesses of their treatment; and that their officers may receive and deliver clothing and other necessaries for them, for which passports are to be granted when applied for.
Granted.

Article VI. The general, staff, and other officers not employed as mentioned in the above articles, and who choose it, to be permitted to go on parole to Europe, to New York, or to any other American maritime posts at present in the possession of the British forces, at their own option; and proper vessels to be granted by the Count de Grasse to carry them under f**gs of truce to New York within ten days from this date, if possible, and they to reside in a district to be agreed upon hereafter, until they embark. The officers of the civil department of the army and navy to be included in this article. Passports to go by land to be granted to those to whom vessels cannot be furnished.
Granted.

Article VII. Officers to be allowed to keep soldiers as servants, according to the common practice of the service. Servants not soldiers are not to be considered as prisoners, and are to be allowed to attend their masters.
Granted.

Article VIII. The Bonetta sloop-of-war to be equipped, and navigated by its present captain and crew, and left entirely at the disposal of Lord Cornwallis from the hour that the capitulation is signed, to receive an aid-de-camp to carry despatches to Sir Henry Clinton; and such soldiers as he may think proper to send to New York, to be permitted to sail without examination. When his despatches are ready, his Lordship engages on his part, that the ship shall be delivered to the order of the Count de Grasse, if she escapes the dangers of the sea. That she shall not carry off any public stores. Any part of the crew that may be deficient on her return, and the soldiers passengers, to be accounted for on her delivery.

Article IX. The traders are to preserve their property, and to be allowed three months to dispose of or remove them; and those traders are not to be considered as prisoners of war.

The traders will be allowed to dispose of their effects, the allied army having the right of preemption. The traders to be considered as prisoners of war upon parole.

Article X. Natives or inhabitants of different parts of this country, at present in York or Gloucester, are not to be punished on account of having joined the British army.

This article cannot be assented to, being altogether of civil resort.

Article XI. Proper hospitals to be furnished for the sick and wounded. They are to be attended by their own surgeons on parole; and they are to be furnished with medicines and stores from the American hospitals.

The hospital stores now at York and Gloucester shall be delivered for the use of the British sick and wounded. Passports will be granted for procuring them further supplies from New York, as occasion may require; and proper hospitals will be furnished for the reception of the sick and wounded of the two garrisons.

Article XII. Wagons to be furnished to carry the baggage of the officers attending the soldiers, and to surgeons when travelling on account of the sick, attending the hospitals at public expense.

They are to be furnished if possible.

Article XIII. The shipping and boats in the two harbours, with all their stores, guns, tackling, and apparel, shall be delivered up in their present state to an officer of the navy appointed to take possession of them, previously unloading the private property, part of which had been on board for security during the seige.
Granted.

Article XIV. No article of capitulation to be infringed on pretence of reprisals; and if there be any doubtful expressions in it, they are to be interpreted according to the common meaning and acceptation of the words.
Granted.

Done at Yorktown, in Virginia, October 19th, 1781.

Cornwallis,
Thomas Symonds.


Done in the Trenches before Yorktown, in Virginia, October 19th, 1781.

George Washington,
Le Comte de Rochambeau,
Le Comte de Barras,
En mon nom & celui du
Comte de Grasse.

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May 25, 2022 01:31:29   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are "no conspiracy character" yet you hand us a well-documented conspiracy.

Senate Resolution 301: Censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy (1954)

Resolved, That the Senator from Wisconsin, Mr. McCarthy, failed to cooperate with the Subcommittee on Privileges and E******ns of the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration in clearing up matters referred to that subcommittee which concerned his conduct as a Senator and affected the honor of the Senate and, instead, repeatedly abused the subcommittee and its members who were trying to carry out assigned duties, thereby obstructing the constitutional processes of the Senate, and that this conduct of the Senator from Wisconsin, Mr. McCarthy, is contrary to senatorial traditions and is hereby condemned.

Sec 2. The Senator from Wisconsin, Mr. McCarthy, in writing to the chairman of the Select Committee to Study Censure Charges (Mr. Watkins) after the Select Committee had issued its report and before the report was presented to the Senate charging three members of the Select Committee with "deliberate deception" and "fraud" for failure to disqualify themselves; in stating to the press on November 4, 1954, that the special Senate session that was to begin November 8, 1954, was a "lynch-party"; in repeatedly describing this special Senate session as a "lynch bee" in a nationwide television and radio show on November 7, 1954; in stating to the public press on November 13, 1954, that the chairman of the Select Committee (Mr. Watkins) was guilty of "the most unusual, most cowardly things I've ever heard of" and stating further: "I expected he would be afraid to answer the questions, but didn't think he'd be stupid enough to make a public statement"; and in characterizing the said committee as the "unwitting handmaiden," "involuntary agent" and "attorneys-in-fact" of the C*******t Party and in charging that the said committee in writing its report "imitated C*******t methods -- that it distorted, misrepresented, and omitted in its effort to manufacture a plausible rationalization" in support of its recommendations to the Senate, which characterizations and charges were contained in a statement released to the press and inserted in the Congressional Record of November 10, 1954, acted contrary to senatorial ethics and tended to bring the Senate into dishonor and disrepute, to obstruct the constitutional processes of the Senate, and to impair its dignity; and such conduct is hereby condemned.




Articles of Capitulation, Yorktown, Virginia, October 19, 1781

The following document is the negotiated terms of surrender at Yorktown, Virginia
between General Charles Lord Cornwallis and General George Washington.

Settled between his Excellency General Washington, Commander-in-Chief of the combined Forces of America and France; his Excellency the Count de Rochambeau, Lieutenant-General of the Armies of the King of France, Great Cross of the royal and military Order of St. Louis, commanding the auxiliary Troops of his Most Christian Majesty in America; and his Excellency the Count de Grasse, Lieutenant-General of the Naval Armies of his Most Christian Majesty, Commander of the Order of St. Louis, Commander-in-Chief of the Naval Army of France in the Chesapeake, on the one Part; and the Right Honorable Earl Cornwallis, Lieutenant-General of his Britannic Majesty’s Forces, commanding the Garrisons of York and Gloucester; and Thomas Symonds, Esquire, commanding his Britannic Majesty’s Naval Forces in York River in Virginia, on the other Part.


ARTICLE I. The garrisons of York and Gloucester including the officers and seamen of his Britannic Majesty’s ships, as well as other mariners, to surrender themselves prisoners of war to the combined forces of America and France. The land troops to remain prisoners to the United States, the navy to the naval army of his Most Christian Majesty.
Granted.

Article II. The artillery, arms, accoutrements, military chest, and public stores of every denomination, shall be delivered unimpaired to the heads of departments appointed to receive them.
Granted.

Article III. At twelve o’clock this day the two redoubts on the left flank of York to be delivered, the one to a detachment of American infantry, the other to a detachment of French grenadiers.
Granted.

The garrison of York will march out to a place to be appointed in front of the posts, at two o’clock precisely, with shouldered arms, colors cased, and drums beating a British or German march. They are then to ground their arms, and return to their encampments, where they will remain until they are despatched to the places of their destination. Two works on the Gloucester side will be delivered at one o’clock to a detachment of French and American troops appointed to possess them. The garrison will march out at three o’clock in the afternoon; the cavalry with their swords drawn, trumpets sounding, and the infantry in the manner prescribed for the garrison of York. They are likewise to return to their encampments until they can be finally marched off.

Article IV. Officers are to retain their side-arms. Both officers and soldiers to keep their private property of every kind; and no part of their baggage or papers to be at any time subject to search or inspection. The baggage and papers of officers and soldiers taken during the siege to be likewise preserved for them.
Granted.

It is understood that any property obviously belonging to the inhabitants of these States, in the possession of the garrison, shall be subject to be reclaimed.

Article V. The soldiers to be kept in Virginia, Maryland, or Pennsylvania, and as much by regiments as possible, and supplied with the same rations of provisions as are allowed to soldiers in the service of America. A field-officer from each nation, to wit, British, Anspach, and Hessian, and other officers on parole, in the proportion of one to fifty men to be allowed to reside near their respective regiments, to visit them frequently, and be witnesses of their treatment; and that their officers may receive and deliver clothing and other necessaries for them, for which passports are to be granted when applied for.
Granted.

Article VI. The general, staff, and other officers not employed as mentioned in the above articles, and who choose it, to be permitted to go on parole to Europe, to New York, or to any other American maritime posts at present in the possession of the British forces, at their own option; and proper vessels to be granted by the Count de Grasse to carry them under f**gs of truce to New York within ten days from this date, if possible, and they to reside in a district to be agreed upon hereafter, until they embark. The officers of the civil department of the army and navy to be included in this article. Passports to go by land to be granted to those to whom vessels cannot be furnished.
Granted.

Article VII. Officers to be allowed to keep soldiers as servants, according to the common practice of the service. Servants not soldiers are not to be considered as prisoners, and are to be allowed to attend their masters.
Granted.

Article VIII. The Bonetta sloop-of-war to be equipped, and navigated by its present captain and crew, and left entirely at the disposal of Lord Cornwallis from the hour that the capitulation is signed, to receive an aid-de-camp to carry despatches to Sir Henry Clinton; and such soldiers as he may think proper to send to New York, to be permitted to sail without examination. When his despatches are ready, his Lordship engages on his part, that the ship shall be delivered to the order of the Count de Grasse, if she escapes the dangers of the sea. That she shall not carry off any public stores. Any part of the crew that may be deficient on her return, and the soldiers passengers, to be accounted for on her delivery.

Article IX. The traders are to preserve their property, and to be allowed three months to dispose of or remove them; and those traders are not to be considered as prisoners of war.

The traders will be allowed to dispose of their effects, the allied army having the right of preemption. The traders to be considered as prisoners of war upon parole.

Article X. Natives or inhabitants of different parts of this country, at present in York or Gloucester, are not to be punished on account of having joined the British army.

This article cannot be assented to, being altogether of civil resort.

Article XI. Proper hospitals to be furnished for the sick and wounded. They are to be attended by their own surgeons on parole; and they are to be furnished with medicines and stores from the American hospitals.

The hospital stores now at York and Gloucester shall be delivered for the use of the British sick and wounded. Passports will be granted for procuring them further supplies from New York, as occasion may require; and proper hospitals will be furnished for the reception of the sick and wounded of the two garrisons.

Article XII. Wagons to be furnished to carry the baggage of the officers attending the soldiers, and to surgeons when travelling on account of the sick, attending the hospitals at public expense.

They are to be furnished if possible.

Article XIII. The shipping and boats in the two harbours, with all their stores, guns, tackling, and apparel, shall be delivered up in their present state to an officer of the navy appointed to take possession of them, previously unloading the private property, part of which had been on board for security during the seige.
Granted.

Article XIV. No article of capitulation to be infringed on pretence of reprisals; and if there be any doubtful expressions in it, they are to be interpreted according to the common meaning and acceptation of the words.
Granted.

Done at Yorktown, in Virginia, October 19th, 1781.

Cornwallis,
Thomas Symonds.


Done in the Trenches before Yorktown, in Virginia, October 19th, 1781.

George Washington,
Le Comte de Rochambeau,
Le Comte de Barras,
En mon nom & celui du
Comte de Grasse.
You are "no conspiracy character" yet yo... (show quote)


How you responded has nothing to do with the founder foundations they built in 1781 to 1791. Nothing but spin.

Evading the facts again, diverting from 1781 no doctrine of conquest claiming any of the spoils of war the American patriots fought for. Washington abandoned the American patriots for Land ownership with free and clear title, the right to v**e during the founding years, their rule of law choice to be free from the Crown rulers, and private side banking. Stop siding with the enemy! 1783 the Victor of the war made his claims and gave nothing but fishing rights and where to fish to the Americans, while protecting his English land owners. and giving congress orders for what they shall do. Stop your BS
1789 the law was written so no one would take an oath to "this Constitution for the United States of America" It's the law. So again, stop your BS
The founders foundations then were set in 1791 with a foreign banking system so they could be built on into the future. This is how we got the Federal Reserve and the IRS the other foreign NGO entities. Follow the money and stop your BS.
No matter how you try to decieve and divert from the t***h, their documented history stands to this date and undisputable with their penned signiturers in 1783...
See the t***h is always a short story and one of simple words for understanding. How's your phantacy world story book doing for you?
You know nothing of the British and Vatican relationships. On 18 November 1302, Pope Boniface VIII issued the Papal Bull called "Unum Sanctum." read it and tell us what the Vatican doesn't claim to own.
TREATY OF VERONA 1213. Read it and tell us how the British faired.

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May 25, 2022 03:07:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ri-chard wrote:
How you responded has nothing to do with the founder foundations they built in 1781 to 1791. Nothing but spin.

Evading the facts again, diverting from 1781 no doctrine of conquest claiming any of the spoils of war the American patriots fought for. Washington abandoned the American patriots for Land ownership with free and clear title, the right to v**e during the founding years, their rule of law choice to be free from the Crown rulers, and private side banking. Stop siding with the enemy! 1783 the Victor of the war made his claims and gave nothing but fishing rights and where to fish to the Americans, while protecting his English land owners. and congress orders for what they shall do. Stop your BS
1789 the law was written so no one would take an oath to "this Constitution for the United States of America" It's the law. So again, stop your BS
The founders foundations then were set them 1791 with a foreign banking system so they could be built on into the future. This is how we got the Federal Reserve and the IRS the other foreign enties. follow the money and stop your BS.
No matter how you try to decieve and divert from the t***h, their documented history stands to this date and undisputable with their penned signiturers in 1783...
See the t***h is always a short story and one of simple words for understanding. How's your phantacy world story book doing for you?
You know nothing of the British and Vatican relationships. On 18 November 1302, Pope Boniface VIII issued the Papal Bull called "Unum Sanctum." read it and tell us what the Vatican doesn't claim to own.
TREATY OF VERONA 1213. Read it and tell us how the British faired.
How you responded has nothing to do with the found... (show quote)
In your post above, when you said,
"Washington's surrender is noted on the Senate Record Senate Resolution 301: Censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy (1954)', you lied.

When you said, "1789 the law was written so no one would take an oath to 'this Constitution for the United States of America' It's the law, you lied.

Article II, Section 1, para 8, U.S. Constitution is clear on the oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.
Support and Defend: Understanding the Oath of Office

When you said, "diverting from 1781 no doctrine of conquest claiming any of the spoils of war the American patriots fought for", you lied.

When you said, "1783 the Victor of the war made his claims and gave nothing but fishing rights and where to fish to the Americans, while protecting his English land owners. and congress orders for what they shall do", you lied.

The church/monarch disputes (Unam Sanctam and the Treaty of Verona) that occurred 4 and 5 centuries before the American Revolution are irrelevant.

With just these lies and your attempt to connect dots that do not exist,
you have torpedoed any credibility you may have had.

If you are such a stalwart defender of our nation,
you'd best get your head out of your ass and your feet firmly planted on the ground.

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May 25, 2022 05:19:51   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
In your post above, when you said,
"Washington's surrender is noted on the Senate Record Senate Resolution 301: Censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy (1954)', you lied.

When you said, "1789 the law was written so no one would take an oath to 'this Constitution for the United States of America' It's the law, you lied.

Article II, Section 1, para 8, U.S. Constitution is clear on the oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.
Support and Defend: Understanding the Oath of Office

When you said, "diverting from 1781 no doctrine of conquest claiming any of the spoils of war the American patriots fought for", you lied.

When you said, "1783 the Victor of the war made his claims and gave nothing but fishing rights and where to fish to the Americans, while protecting his English land owners. and congress orders for what they shall do", you lied.

The church/monarch disputes (Unam Sanctam and the Treaty of Verona) that occurred 4 and 5 centuries before the American Revolution are irrelevant.

With just these lies and your attempt to connect dots that do not exist,
you have torpedoed any credibility you may have had.

If you are such a stalwart defender of our nation,
you'd best get your head out of your ass and your feet firmly planted on the ground.
In your post above, when you said, br i "Was... (show quote)


Ok everything I said was a lie.
Washington won
There is no mention of George Washington's surrender, in any speech, it doesn't exist anywhere. I made it up. OK?
Cornwallis did not tell Washington about the foundations of deep state and how the people would be deceived. And that a Holy War would now begin. And Washington told Cornwallis to go pound sand as the victor. OK? Washington the great general won more battles than he lost. OK?
George Washington was not a master Mason giving his allegiances to the Masonic order under the penalty of death. OK? He did not swear an oath to the constitution repeating the words "the Constitution of the United States" as the law required and it wasn't done using a Masonic bible. OK?
1789 the very First Act "Oath" you omitted it but I'll say for your mind, the preamble says "this Constitution for the United States of America" Not to swear to "the Constitution of the United States - feel better, that fits your thinking and excellent reading sk**ls anyway. Article II, Section 1, para 8, has nothing to do with the instructed words an oath taker is to repeat but for you it defines those words of the oath of office, how you read it. OK?
Somewhere but no one can find it but you evidently, there is a conquest doc that Washington wrote claiming all the spoils of war as the victor. Feel better? You will make a lot money when you produce it to the National Archives.
The 1783 Treaty was written by Washington with the help of Paul Revere, Minutemen and supporting colonist. They claimed they had control of the money and the e*****r v**es. They gave congress their new orders, claimed the Americans were sovereign and free not the States. They awarded nothing to the English. They claimed their right to own their own lands with free and clear title from the King. Claimed their own Rule of law that all 13 Colonies agreed to. Got the right to v**e and choose their own currency forms, banking and commerce practices in their Treaty to formally end the hostilities of war. OK? The 1783 King's Treaty does not exist it been debunked by you. OK? The Holy Roman Empire had nothing to do with the Treaty, OK?
The Unam Sanctam and the Treaty of Verona have nothing to do the powers and authority claimed, and explain the relationship between England and the Vatican and how far back it goes. OK? and who is in control.
1791 We the People created our own American private side domestic banking system and currency form. OK?
Washington DC is a part of the United States of America, it is not a corporation nor are any of the States listed as corporations for profit either. OK?

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