PeterS

Pascal knew what he was talking about...and no Blade, I'm not bashing Christianity just the evil men make it up...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

What evil men make up Christianity?

Of course, you are bashing Christianity, that's pretty much all you do around here.
Christianity is irrational, unreasonable, and built on logical fallacies, right?

How much do you know about Blaise Pascal and his philosophies?
He was a mathematician, physicist, inventor, philosopher, writer, and Catholic theologian.

“If we submit everything to reason our religion will be left with nothing mysterious or supernatural. If we offend the principles of reason our religion will be absurd and ridiculous . . . There are two equally dangerous extremes: to exclude reason, to admit nothing but reason.”

“The heart has its reasons which reason knows not.”
Blaise Pascal, Pensées

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

The atheists in China and the USSR would beg to differ...

Think evil is pretty universal...

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Murdering unborn children is the very essence of evil, and it doesn't need religion to tell us so. It is evil incarnate regardless of whether you use logic or reason or religious conviction or biological science.
ANY justification for doing so is simple illogical selfish rationalization.
Any one who supports a******n is committing evil, and you know it somewhere deep in that dried up husk you call a heart.

Big dog

Replace Christianity with politics and ya might make sense.

Liberty Tree

Only a bigoted fool judges a whole group by the actions of a few. Enough said.

American Vet

Of course it is - he simply h**es religion and chooses to see only that.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Well, then again...

Humanism is a religion... just in denial.

Just as Trinitarianism is tritheism... just in denial.

It's easy for some people to call themselves something they are not, or claim they are not something that they are... all it requires is to redefine words to suit one's own "my t***h", which is itself, of course, an oxymoron. To believe in an oxymoron is to hold two contradictory concepts as t***h, which is of course a self-delusion. And to hold a self-delusion is to hold a false opinion. Such folks just prefer to live a lie of their own (or someone else's) making than face their own inconsistencies.

It's easy enough to trigger such people, just speak t***h. The chemical reaction is similar to pouring salt on a snail.




Definitions from dictionary.com:

"Religion: a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects."

"Humanism: any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate."

"Tritheism: belief in three Gods, especially in the doctrine that the three persons of the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) are three distinct Gods, each an independent center of consciousness and determination."

"Distinct: distinguished as not being the same; not identical; separate (sometimes followed by from): His private and public lives are distinct." dictionary.com

TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!

The discussion between Bible believing Christians who believe that Jesus is the one and only way to salvation and that He is the Son of God, second in the Trinity, and you who denies that Jesus is deity and has always existed as part of the Trinity, has been passionately debated many times through the years………….And continues!


https://jesusalive.cc/deny-jesus-deity-and-be-saved/

Can a person deny the deity of Jesus and still be saved?

By: Steve Shirley
A: No. The deity of Jesus (or believing Jesus is God) is one of the essentials of the Christian faith. This is one of the main things (if not THE main thing) that separates us from nearly every other cult and faith in the world. Nearly every cult or non-Christian faith will readily accept that Jesus existed, believing Jesus was a prophet, an angel, a good man, a good teacher, a very enlightened man, God’s son (a created being), etc… However, they will flatly deny Jesus’ deity, and consider it heresy to call Jesus God.

Why is it so crucial to believe Jesus is God?

First, this is how we become a Christian in the first place.

(Rom 10:9)(NASB) that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

(Rom 10:13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

If Jesus is not our Lord (God), then how can we confess Him or call upon Him in prayer? If Jesus is not our God, He cannot be our Savior; and if He is not our Savior, then our sins are not paid for, nor covered by His blood, and we cannot get to Heaven without this.

Secondly, if one denies the deity of Jesus, they are rejecting the Bible. The Bible teaches VERY clearly over and over that Jesus is God, and Jesus Himself affirmed His deity in a number of places in the gospels. I am not going to list the many proofs that show Jesus IS God here, but you can go here to see them.

In addition, the denial of Jesus’ deity means one is rejecting the trinity, or the triune nature of God: one God, manifest in three distinct persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These three have ALWAYS existed as God (not created and never simply men), and are all equal.

*** Note: Christians do not believe in three separate gods (tritheism), we do not believe God manifests Himself in three different ways (modalism), nor do we believe in many gods (pantheism).

For more on the importance of “The Trinity,” please go here.

If one rejects the deity of Jesus, and the triune nature of God, they are rejecting essentials of Christianity, and God’s Word. In fact, it makes both Jesus and the writers of the Bible liars, because they testified to this fact. If the Bible is a lie, then Christianity falls.

Friend, no mere man could live a perfect, sinless life as Jesus did (2 Cor 5:21)(1 Pet 2:22)(1 Jn 3:5)(Heb 4:15)(1 Pet 1:19), and make atonement for ALL the sins of this world. No mere man could raise Himself from the dead as Jesus did (Jn 2:19-22). Please do not go to judgment one day, and have to face the Judge of this world (Jesus: Jn 5:22,27, 2 Tim 4:1, 2 Cor 5:10), and tell Him ” I rejected who you truly are and never really knew you.” If we deny who Jesus is before men, He will deny us as well (Mt 10:32-33)(2 Tim 2:12). And, if one doesn’t truly know who Jesus is, they will hear the scariest words in the whole Bible, “I never knew you: depart from me” (Mt 7:23)(Mt 25:12)(Lk 13:27).

Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

Thank you Blade_Runner for the quote by Pascal. I will especially add the last sentence to my short list of witicisms for use where appropriate.

An immediate use comes to mind. I have been formulating a new post concerning the differing mind-sets of pro-choice and pro-life people. I have been pondering the malaise of sociopathic behavior, which seems to be the hallmark of the pro-choice philosophy.

Without doing a deep dive into that topic at this time, I would like to again offer that part of Pascal's observation which seems to state the pro-choice opinion in a way that the pro-life person can understand:

"The heart has its reasons which reason knows not."

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martsiva

NAME these 'evil men'!! Come on big mouth - you made the comment so back it up!!

DamnYANKEE

OH GOOD GAWD AMIGHTY

woodguru

And heaven forbid his honesty, that he was critical of the church...otherwise known as heresy

woodguru

You have no awareness of some of the truly evil big name evangelicals? Of the torture and death perpetrated by the church against disbelievers?

Come on...you are being willfully obtuse

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

You need to research what 'heresy' actually is. You apparently haven't a clue.