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Christ lived and moved and had his being in the father's Spirit and Grace: a total reliance without any dependence on Commandments
Feb 8, 2022 19:16:30   #
rumitoid
 
1. "We are to live and move and have our being in Christ" (Acts 17:28): we are to be as Christ was in the world, citizens of heaven and not the world. Not possible for any of us on our own, no matter how well we know Scripture.

2. As humans, we cannot "be as perfect as the father in heaven": only a total reliance, surrender, to spirit and grace
And how can we "be as perfect as the father in heaven"? "Love of enemy." Not possible for any of us on our own.

3. "For the Word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Hebrews4:12) The soul is who we are as humans, that whole package, and not some ethereal part of us but all of our nature and nurture. To discern "soul from spirit" is Not possible for any of us on our own.

I could have another 97 but the mainstream Christians find a total reliance on Spirit and Grace, as Christ had and instructed us to do, is a form of lawlessness, antinomianism, that they see as just ego. The mainstream Christians find such a lack of control too intimidating and lacking in order. Having a reliance on safe articles of beliefs, following Commandments, resisting evil, the Bible, a comforting congregation led by a conforming pastor, earthly concerns, and so much more distractions from being as Christ was in the world.

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Feb 13, 2022 08:13:13   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
1. "We are to live and move and have our being in Christ" (Acts 17:28): we are to be as Christ was in the world, citizens of heaven and not the world. Not possible for any of us on our own, no matter how well we know Scripture.

2. As humans, we cannot "be as perfect as the father in heaven": only a total reliance, surrender, to spirit and grace
And how can we "be as perfect as the father in heaven"? "Love of enemy." Not possible for any of us on our own.

3. "For the Word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Hebrews4:12) The soul is who we are as humans, that whole package, and not some ethereal part of us but all of our nature and nurture. To discern "soul from spirit" is Not possible for any of us on our own.

I could have another 97 but the mainstream Christians find a total reliance on Spirit and Grace, as Christ had and instructed us to do, is a form of lawlessness, antinomianism, that they see as just ego. The mainstream Christians find such a lack of control too intimidating and lacking in order. Having a reliance on safe articles of beliefs, following Commandments, resisting evil, the Bible, a comforting congregation led by a conforming pastor, earthly concerns, and so much more distractions from being as Christ was in the world.
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“I could have another 97 but the mainstream Christians find a total reliance on Spirit and Grace, as Christ had and instructed us to do, is a form of lawlessness, antinomianism, that they see as just ego. The mainstream Christians find such a lack of control too intimidating and lacking in order. Having a reliance on safe articles of beliefs, following Commandments, resisting evil, the Bible, a comforting congregation led by a conforming pastor, earthly concerns, and so much more distractions from being as Christ was in the world.” Rumitoid

No, your theology is absolutely irresponsible! You continue to ignore much of the Bible in order to believe this man made false theology that will lead an unsuspecting person who knows nothing about the Bible and God, straight to Hell!



What is antinomianism?

The word antinomianism comes from two Greek words, anti, meaning "against"; and nomos, meaning "law." Antinomianism means “against the law.” Theologically, antinomianism is the belief that there are no moral laws God expects Christians to obey. Antinomianism takes a biblical teaching to an unbiblical conclusion. The biblical teaching is that Christians are not required to observe the Old Testament Law as a means of salvation. When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He fulfilled the Old Testament Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). The unbiblical conclusion is that there is no moral law God expects Christians to obey.

The apostle Paul dealt with the issue of antinomianism in Romans 6:1-2, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” The most frequent attack on the doctrine of salvation by grace alone is that it encourages sin. People may wonder, “If I am saved by grace and all my sins are forgiven, why not sin all I want?” That thinking is not the result of true conversion because true conversion yields a greater desire to obey, not a lesser one. God’s desire—and our desire when we are regenerated by His Spirit—is that we strive not to sin. Out of gratitude for His grace and forgiveness, we want to please Him. God has given us His infinitely gracious gift in salvation through Jesus (John 3:16; Romans 5:8). Our response is to consecrate our lives to Him out of love, worship, and gratitude for what He has done for us (Romans 12:1-2). Antinomianism is unbiblical in that it misapplies the meaning of God’s gracious favor.

A second reason that antinomianism is unbiblical is that there is a moral law God expects us to obey. First John 5:3 tells us, “This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome.” What is this law God expects us to obey? It is the law of Christ – “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37-40). No, we are not under the Old Testament Law. Yes, we are under the law of Christ. The law of Christ is not an extensive list of legal codes. It is a law of love. If we love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, we will do nothing to displease Him. If we love our neighbors as ourselves, we will do nothing to harm them. Obeying the law of Christ is not a requirement to earn or maintain salvation. The law of Christ is what God expects of a Christian.

Antinomianism is contrary to everything the Bible teaches. God expects us to live a life of morality, integrity, and love. Jesus Christ freed us from the burdensome commands of the Old Testament Law, but that is not a license to sin. Rather, it is a covenant of grace. We are to strive to overcome sin and cultivate righteousness, depending on the Holy Spirit to help us. The fact that we are graciously freed from the demands of the Old Testament Law should result in our living our lives in obedience to the law of Christ. First John 2:3-6 declares, “We know that we have come to know Him if we obey His commands. The man who says, ‘I know Him,’ but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys His word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in Him: Whoever claims to live in Him must walk as Jesus did.” gotquestions.org

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Feb 13, 2022 09:48:29   #
Rose42
 
Rumitoid is on very dangerous ground with the unbiblical hyper grace he espouses. There are many spirits and we are told to test the spirit. If one doesn’t they could easily be led astray

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