2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

Tucker: Here's what America should learn from Hungary:

What is so wrong about protecting the sovereignty of a nation? Any nation, which obviously includes the United States of America?
Mike


https://youtu.be/7MPs-tc3yi0

Unintended Consequences

From our founding, we have been made up of diverse groups of people. Immigrants from all sorts of places made their home here and eventually blended in. What white people are afraid of, is becoming the minority. That is not far off. Perhaps we white people should spend some time getting acquainted with our neighbors of various colors.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Citizens United does not protect the sovereignty of the United States.
Why don’t you work on that one instead of always trying to escape the cascade of lies generated constantly the right.
Tucker should’ve stayed right there where they love him.

JW

The key words in your comment are, "blended in". The Progressive Left has put an end to that by foisting the new Jim Crow reality on the country, multi-culturalism. Separate but equal; keep your own culture and celebrate it. Do not blend in.

Even a microcephalic can see that coming but not a Liberal.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

This is not true.

Unintended Consequences

My mother and father spoke German as well as other relatives. The church I last worked at had many Polish speaking people. At Christmastime we sang a few Polish songs. The first settlers were Puritans, Quakers and members of the Church of England. In later years large numbers of Irish arrived. They were not well accepted at first.We have a harder time accepting Hispanics, b****s and Muslims-different color, different religion? What? You want them to stay in their own corners and not mix in with the lily-white suburbs?

JW

Reread what I wrote. Staying in their own corners is the opposite of what I said. Multi-culturalism is creating ghettos out of what used to be the assimilation standard of American culture. Multi-culturalism is something your side pushes.

Cultures do not tolerate; they never have and never will. They can assimilate but they cannot make a nation if they isolate. Recently, a Muslim refugee from Afghanistan raped a woman in Montana. He made no effort to hide and when the police picked him up, he couldn't understand why the fuss. It wasn't a Muslim woman he had used. Allah has given him permission to use infidels as he pleased. Her head wasn't covered. They had no right to detain him, much less charge him with a crime.

All of the groups you mentioned assimilated. They took on American cultural affectations and contributed parts of their cultures to the whole. The few who didn't were not celebrated because the American people used to be aware that only people who think alike can survive as neighbors. That is why nations have boundaries.

Unintended Consequences

I do think Muslims do not assimilate as easily. I lived a few blocks from the Muslim Mosque on Layton and 13th Street. I gave piano lessons for a while to a woman that I met. I was careful to wear a head scarf when I went to her house. She had to hide her money so her husband wouldn't find out what she was using it for. On the other hand, I am not aware of any incidents similar to the one that took place in Montana.
I also lived for 20 years on the south side of Chicago where I was definitely a minority. Let's say there were things I had to get used to. There are b****s who move easily from black to white culture and there are others who are from the hood and do not "fit in," easily.

JW

The whole point of multi-culturalism is that they don't have to assimilate. Assimilation occurred because immigrants' children wanted to be seen as Americans. The Liberal concept of multi-culturalism is that all pressures to assimilate are forbidden. There is no more advantage to being seen as American. In fact, being seen as American is being denigrated.

Unintended Consequences

What examples are you thinking of when you say all pressures to assimilate are forbidden. Also if someone was born here but continues to speak their language, and lives among others like him/her, are you saying they are not American?

JW

We don't require English as a FIRST language. We are called r****t if we make note of ethnic or cultural differences like Arab dress or female circumcision, as examples. All of the subliminal messaging has turned around, celebrating diversity, where it used to celebrate American unity and being American.

Of course, they are not American. They merely live in America. American is a state of mind. Lack that state of mind and they are only residents. America has prospered without the usual ethnic unity, religious uniformity and singular culture only because those things have been deemphasized and replaced with a love of America, with cultural icons that can be claimed by everyone, the f**g, national anthem, national p***e, freedom, the Bill of Rights and the ability to achieve American e******y, up to and including the Presidency, for everyone within the national culture.

We are now destroying all of those things that made us Americans. That, effectively, is destroying this nation. We are fast becoming a land of residents with nothing to bind us into a nation.

Unintended Consequences

When I read this, I feel your distress, your sense if loss for the way things were.
Here is how I see these things. It takes a lot of time for immigrants to pick up English. My parents learned everything in school in German. They were the 5th generation of our family in order to in the US. In order to attain citizenship, people have to study 100 questions and answer 10 of them. Football players who kneel during the National Anthem do not h**e the country ir the National Anthem. They are calling attention to uneqak treatmenr of people of color.

JW

If that is what you got out of what I said, you clearly understood none of it.

I was born in Germany. I know what it means to be a citizen of this country and how different that is from citizenship in other advanced nations. What I wrote is not nostalgia or "distress" at some ethereal loss. Those of you born into this country have never had a means of comparison and as well-meaning as you might be, are totally ignorant of what you were born into; why it has worked so well for so long and why it is falling apart before your eyes. You don't even recognize that it is happening.

Everyone is treated unequally, all of the time, everywhere on planet Earth, because we are all born unequal. Most of us are not so self-exalted as to believe our personal demons are an essential part of others' lives. The only reason Americans think their personal demons are rightfully the responsibility of society to exorcise is BECAUSE they are, and have had since birth, the right to be able to be equal. Some might have to work harder than others but that is how life works. The ass who started the kneeling for the anthem grew up with virtually every possibility open to him and the makings of a remarkably prosperous life. The only thing he tried to make known was how special he thought he was. So special, in fact, that he felt justified in imposing his politics on thousands of people who were simply wanting to watch a sporting event. He denigrated and defamed the very symbology that had supported his climb to where he was.

There are two kinds of e******y; under the law and personal. The USA grants e******y under the law to all Americans (or used to). Personal e******y is a state of mind and that has to be achieved by every individual for himself/herself.

Unintended Consequences

What I find falling apart is respect for people who are different or have different opinions. When did we all become experts in every field and someone who doesn't agree with us, tells us we are i***ts. So while I do not agree totally with your assessment, I appreciate the fact that we have had a civil discussion.

JW

My pleasure.