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Storm Trumpers: Arizona's phony electors aren't patriots, they're traitors. "Law," they say, "we don't need no stinkin' Law."
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Jan 14, 2022 12:46:45   #
rumitoid
 
AZCentral | The Arizona Republic
EJ Montini, Arizona Republic
Fri, January 14, 2022, 8:52 AM

One of the great mistakes we’ve made during the Trump era, and there have been many, is failing to call out traitors who claim to be patriots.

They are cumbersome words – patriot and traitor. They’re old-fashioned, weighty, archaic, lodged in the throats of second-rate actors in B movies. It takes something close to arrogance to insist that you are a patriot or to accuse someone else of being a traitor.

But if you claim to be a patriot and then act in a way that contradicts the entire notion of what that means, what else would you be but a traitor?

So how else should we view the men and women who signed fake electoral certificates after the 2020 election hoping to subvert that Constitutional work of the Electoral College, overturn the outcome of duly certified election and, in essence, stage a coup that would have kept Donald Trump in office?
Fake electors from 7 shameful states

The fake certificates, in which the signatories claims to be valid electors, were sent to the National Archives. The idea was to replace valid presidential electors with a pro-Trump group, and they were concocted by Trump sycophants in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, New Mexico and – of course – Arizona.

They claimed it as a patriotic gesture, and they were written off eventually as a publicity stunt.

Arizona actually has had two slates of fake electors. The Arizona Republic’s Ronald Hansen wrote about them a month after the election.

The phony certificates and those behind them have become news again by way of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Copies of the documents were obtained by American Oversight and published online.
Those from Arizona who signed

Arizona’s phony document is signed by Dr. Kelli Ward (Arizona’s GOP chair), Dr. Michael Ward, Greg Safsten, Samuel I Moorehead, Robert Montgomery, James Lamon, Jake Hoffman, Tyler Bowyer, Loraine B. Pellegrino and Nancy Cottle.

Earlier this week, state Rep. Jake Hoffman, who signed the bogus certificate, dodged and weaved away from a News12 photojournalist and from the Republic’s Richard Ruelas who were interested in finding out why he’d signed the fake declaration.

We either learn something from the dark days surronding Jan. 6 or we repeat them. Court challenges making outrageous claims about the election have been tossed by judges again and again. Phony assertions of election fraud and the sham election audit conducted in Arizona by the Cyber Ninjas, at the behest of Republican state Senate President Karen Fann, have been thoroughly debunked and disproven.

Trump continues to spread lies about the election and his most loyal toadies echo his outrageous, unproven claims, all of which does nothing but add to the nation’s divisiveness and bolster conspiracy kooks.
Founding Fathers, not B movie actors

But just this week the head of the far-right Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, who once suggested that Sen. John McCain be hanged, and 10 other members or associates have been charged with seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Seditious conspiracy – those also are old-fashioned, weighty, archaic words. Just like patriot and traitor.

In the end, however, history tells us they are not just the part of some campy dialogue in B movies spoken by second-rate actors.

But by the Founding Fathers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizonas-phony-electors-arent-patriots-155233785.html

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Jan 14, 2022 13:14:43   #
Antimarxist21
 
rumitoid wrote:
AZCentral | The Arizona Republic
EJ Montini, Arizona Republic
Fri, January 14, 2022, 8:52 AM

One of the great mistakes we’ve made during the Trump era, and there have been many, is failing to call out traitors who claim to be patriots.

They are cumbersome words – patriot and traitor. They’re old-fashioned, weighty, archaic, lodged in the throats of second-rate actors in B movies. It takes something close to arrogance to insist that you are a patriot or to accuse someone else of being a traitor.

But if you claim to be a patriot and then act in a way that contradicts the entire notion of what that means, what else would you be but a traitor?

So how else should we view the men and women who signed fake electoral certificates after the 2020 election hoping to subvert that Constitutional work of the Electoral College, overturn the outcome of duly certified election and, in essence, stage a coup that would have kept Donald Trump in office?
Fake electors from 7 shameful states

The fake certificates, in which the signatories claims to be valid electors, were sent to the National Archives. The idea was to replace valid presidential electors with a pro-Trump group, and they were concocted by Trump sycophants in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, New Mexico and – of course – Arizona.

They claimed it as a patriotic gesture, and they were written off eventually as a publicity stunt.

Arizona actually has had two slates of fake electors. The Arizona Republic’s Ronald Hansen wrote about them a month after the election.

The phony certificates and those behind them have become news again by way of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Copies of the documents were obtained by American Oversight and published online.
Those from Arizona who signed

Arizona’s phony document is signed by Dr. Kelli Ward (Arizona’s GOP chair), Dr. Michael Ward, Greg Safsten, Samuel I Moorehead, Robert Montgomery, James Lamon, Jake Hoffman, Tyler Bowyer, Loraine B. Pellegrino and Nancy Cottle.

Earlier this week, state Rep. Jake Hoffman, who signed the bogus certificate, dodged and weaved away from a News12 photojournalist and from the Republic’s Richard Ruelas who were interested in finding out why he’d signed the fake declaration.

We either learn something from the dark days surronding Jan. 6 or we repeat them. Court challenges making outrageous claims about the election have been tossed by judges again and again. Phony assertions of election fraud and the sham election audit conducted in Arizona by the Cyber Ninjas, at the behest of Republican state Senate President Karen Fann, have been thoroughly debunked and disproven.

Trump continues to spread lies about the election and his most loyal toadies echo his outrageous, unproven claims, all of which does nothing but add to the nation’s divisiveness and bolster conspiracy kooks.
Founding Fathers, not B movie actors

But just this week the head of the far-right Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, who once suggested that Sen. John McCain be hanged, and 10 other members or associates have been charged with seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Seditious conspiracy – those also are old-fashioned, weighty, archaic words. Just like patriot and traitor.

In the end, however, history tells us they are not just the part of some campy dialogue in B movies spoken by second-rate actors.

But by the Founding Fathers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizonas-phony-electors-arent-patriots-155233785.html
AZCentral | The Arizona Republic br EJ Montini, Ar... (show quote)


Which are you, traitor or patriot?

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Jan 14, 2022 13:24:21   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
Which are you, traitor or patriot?


Huh?
Would you rather be hanged or shot as a Traitor ?

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Jan 14, 2022 13:28:43   #
hygrometer3
 
rumaturd-there are still meds for your aliment----CALLED X-LAX--GOOD-LUCK!!!!!

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Jan 14, 2022 13:32:03   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
Which are you, traitor or patriot?

Rumi and milquetoast are both quite confused identifying themselves as patriots but in actuality being traitors. They subscribe to the Isaiah 5:20 type of reality.

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Jan 14, 2022 13:36:38   #
Liberty Tree
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
Which are you, traitor or patriot?


He is no true American patriot.

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Jan 14, 2022 13:40:58   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Parky60 wrote:
Rumi and milquetoast are both quite confused identifying themselves as patriots but in actuality being traitors. They subscribe to the Isaiah 5:20 type of reality.


I admire Proud Republican shs shares here opinion, but doesn't stoop to the likes of Parky60 and others here on opp.
There is nothing wrong with having your own opinions but one MUST ACT WITH RESPECT TOWARDS OTHERS

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Jan 14, 2022 13:42:58   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
jimpack123 wrote:
I admire Proud Republican shs shares here opinion, but doesn't stoop to the likes of Parky60 and others here on opp.
There is nothing wrong with having your own opinions but one MUST ACT WITH RESPECT TOWARDS OTHERS

I was speaking the truth.

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Jan 14, 2022 13:51:54   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
AZCentral | The Arizona Republic
EJ Montini, Arizona Republic
Fri, January 14, 2022, 8:52 AM

One of the great mistakes we’ve made during the Trump era, and there have been many, is failing to call out traitors who claim to be patriots.

They are cumbersome words – patriot and traitor. They’re old-fashioned, weighty, archaic, lodged in the throats of second-rate actors in B movies. It takes something close to arrogance to insist that you are a patriot or to accuse someone else of being a traitor.

But if you claim to be a patriot and then act in a way that contradicts the entire notion of what that means, what else would you be but a traitor?

So how else should we view the men and women who signed fake electoral certificates after the 2020 election hoping to subvert that Constitutional work of the Electoral College, overturn the outcome of duly certified election and, in essence, stage a coup that would have kept Donald Trump in office?
Fake electors from 7 shameful states

The fake certificates, in which the signatories claims to be valid electors, were sent to the National Archives. The idea was to replace valid presidential electors with a pro-Trump group, and they were concocted by Trump sycophants in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, New Mexico and – of course – Arizona.

They claimed it as a patriotic gesture, and they were written off eventually as a publicity stunt.

Arizona actually has had two slates of fake electors. The Arizona Republic’s Ronald Hansen wrote about them a month after the election.

The phony certificates and those behind them have become news again by way of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Copies of the documents were obtained by American Oversight and published online.
Those from Arizona who signed

Arizona’s phony document is signed by Dr. Kelli Ward (Arizona’s GOP chair), Dr. Michael Ward, Greg Safsten, Samuel I Moorehead, Robert Montgomery, James Lamon, Jake Hoffman, Tyler Bowyer, Loraine B. Pellegrino and Nancy Cottle.

Earlier this week, state Rep. Jake Hoffman, who signed the bogus certificate, dodged and weaved away from a News12 photojournalist and from the Republic’s Richard Ruelas who were interested in finding out why he’d signed the fake declaration.

We either learn something from the dark days surronding Jan. 6 or we repeat them. Court challenges making outrageous claims about the election have been tossed by judges again and again. Phony assertions of election fraud and the sham election audit conducted in Arizona by the Cyber Ninjas, at the behest of Republican state Senate President Karen Fann, have been thoroughly debunked and disproven.

Trump continues to spread lies about the election and his most loyal toadies echo his outrageous, unproven claims, all of which does nothing but add to the nation’s divisiveness and bolster conspiracy kooks.
Founding Fathers, not B movie actors

But just this week the head of the far-right Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, who once suggested that Sen. John McCain be hanged, and 10 other members or associates have been charged with seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Seditious conspiracy – those also are old-fashioned, weighty, archaic words. Just like patriot and traitor.

In the end, however, history tells us they are not just the part of some campy dialogue in B movies spoken by second-rate actors.

But by the Founding Fathers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizonas-phony-electors-arent-patriots-155233785.html
AZCentral | The Arizona Republic br EJ Montini, Ar... (show quote)
GOP hatred erodes leftist EJ Montini’s memory

The anti-Trump, Hillary-endorsing, beleaguered Arizona Republic newspaper has suffered through unparalleled subscription declines, losing its building and finally being sold like a dilapidated junker. Along the way, it has fired countless employees replacing them with ASU J-school student interns, and even dropping its longtime prize-winning cartoonist, unable to afford him — all in a desperate effort to keep its head above water.

Still on the payroll are the two write-anything-for-a-buck columnists, Laurie Roberts and EJ Montini. Facts take a backseat when it comes to promulgating the newspaper’s hard left agenda. A recent Montini column hit an all-time low with the headline, “Gosar gets cozy with hate group member.”

Gosar is, of course, conservative Congressman Paul Gosar, DDS, who has ably represented Arizona’s Fourth Congressional District for five terms. Read his impressive list of ratings here.

According to Republican hater Montini, his credentials take a back seat to a photo taken of Congressman Gosar, who was in Prescott for Fourth of July festivities. It seems he casually posed for a photo with a guy identified by a left-wing reporter as a member of a “hate group.”

Montini should have gone bat s#*t crazy when then-First Lady Rosalynn Carter warmly posed shaking hands with Democrat precinct committeeman John Wayne Gacy. He was also a serial killer who sexually assaulted and murdered at least 33 young men and boys before being executed for his horrifying crimes.

It’s a certainty Montini, who was working at the newspaper at the time, would never have headlined a column, “Mrs. Carter gets cozy with grisly mass murderer.”

The double standard is alive and well at the failing Arizona Republic.

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Jan 14, 2022 14:18:20   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Parky60 wrote:
I was speaking the truth.


but not respectfully

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Jan 14, 2022 14:19:28   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Huh?
Would you rather be hanged or shot as a Traitor ?


I can think of a bunch of Liberals who would look good on a guillotine.

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Jan 14, 2022 14:44:28   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
I can think of a bunch of Liberals who would look good on a guillotine.


like how the protesters put up a gallow for Pence, hmm

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Jan 15, 2022 13:29:16   #
microphor
 
rumitoid wrote:
AZCentral | The Arizona Republic
EJ Montini, Arizona Republic
Fri, January 14, 2022, 8:52 AM

One of the great mistakes we’ve made during the Trump era, and there have been many, is failing to call out traitors who claim to be patriots.

They are cumbersome words – patriot and traitor. They’re old-fashioned, weighty, archaic, lodged in the throats of second-rate actors in B movies. It takes something close to arrogance to insist that you are a patriot or to accuse someone else of being a traitor.

But if you claim to be a patriot and then act in a way that contradicts the entire notion of what that means, what else would you be but a traitor?

So how else should we view the men and women who signed fake electoral certificates after the 2020 election hoping to subvert that Constitutional work of the Electoral College, overturn the outcome of duly certified election and, in essence, stage a coup that would have kept Donald Trump in office?
Fake electors from 7 shameful states

The fake certificates, in which the signatories claims to be valid electors, were sent to the National Archives. The idea was to replace valid presidential electors with a pro-Trump group, and they were concocted by Trump sycophants in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, New Mexico and – of course – Arizona.

They claimed it as a patriotic gesture, and they were written off eventually as a publicity stunt.

Arizona actually has had two slates of fake electors. The Arizona Republic’s Ronald Hansen wrote about them a month after the election.

The phony certificates and those behind them have become news again by way of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Copies of the documents were obtained by American Oversight and published online.
Those from Arizona who signed

Arizona’s phony document is signed by Dr. Kelli Ward (Arizona’s GOP chair), Dr. Michael Ward, Greg Safsten, Samuel I Moorehead, Robert Montgomery, James Lamon, Jake Hoffman, Tyler Bowyer, Loraine B. Pellegrino and Nancy Cottle.

Earlier this week, state Rep. Jake Hoffman, who signed the bogus certificate, dodged and weaved away from a News12 photojournalist and from the Republic’s Richard Ruelas who were interested in finding out why he’d signed the fake declaration.

We either learn something from the dark days surronding Jan. 6 or we repeat them. Court challenges making outrageous claims about the election have been tossed by judges again and again. Phony assertions of election fraud and the sham election audit conducted in Arizona by the Cyber Ninjas, at the behest of Republican state Senate President Karen Fann, have been thoroughly debunked and disproven.

Trump continues to spread lies about the election and his most loyal toadies echo his outrageous, unproven claims, all of which does nothing but add to the nation’s divisiveness and bolster conspiracy kooks.
Founding Fathers, not B movie actors

But just this week the head of the far-right Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, who once suggested that Sen. John McCain be hanged, and 10 other members or associates have been charged with seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Seditious conspiracy – those also are old-fashioned, weighty, archaic words. Just like patriot and traitor.

In the end, however, history tells us they are not just the part of some campy dialogue in B movies spoken by second-rate actors.

But by the Founding Fathers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizonas-phony-electors-arent-patriots-155233785.html
AZCentral | The Arizona Republic br EJ Montini, Ar... (show quote)


you are so full of yourself! If anyone agrees with you they are a patriot, if don't agree not a patriot. You know what made patriots in this country-people fighting for the freedom of individualism, the right to disagree, to speak freely and frankly. You are so full of yourself, it must be very lonely!

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Jan 15, 2022 13:30:09   #
microphor
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Huh?
Would you rather be hanged or shot as a Traitor ?


I know I would like to gag you!

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Jan 15, 2022 13:31:58   #
microphor
 
jimpack123 wrote:
I admire Proud Republican shs shares here opinion, but doesn't stoop to the likes of Parky60 and others here on opp.
There is nothing wrong with having your own opinions but one MUST ACT WITH RESPECT TOWARDS OTHERS


Respect-you mean like the king we get from Milosia, Rumi, Bob, Kevyn?

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