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Jan 14, 2022 23:16:31   #
JoyV
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
When O**h K****rs was founded in 2009, I joined as an associate member. I stayed with them for about 2 years, received all their literature, watched many of their speeches. The majority of O**h K****r members are military, sheriffs, and police veterans.

The O**h K****rs mission statement was simply a vow to remain loyal to their oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and they would not obey any orders that violated the constitution.

Taken from Secret Service and FBI documents, Newsweek reported varying estimates of the crowd size on J** 6,
the best estimate being 25,000.

The Secret Service reported 59 separate groups were present.
Many of whom were veterans' groups.
At most, 1200 people made it to or into the Capitol building.
Many of the protestors at the tail and perimeters of the crowd had no idea an assault was taking place.

The O**h K****rs certainly did not organize, coordinate, or command the entire protest, they had their own gig going, and those charged with s******n did not represent the entire mass of people, nor did they have any influence or control over any groups other than their own.
When O**h K****rs was founded in 2009, I joined as... (show quote)


Thank you for this lucid information.

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Jan 14, 2022 23:22:05   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
Geo wrote:
The domestic enemies of J*** 6th are being arrested. True patriots have been sitting at their computers, assisting the FBI in the t*****rs identification. This latest t*****rs that wanted to play soldier is facing 20 years.


I see you've been watching way too much CNN. Isn't it time for your meds?

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Jan 15, 2022 00:12:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
slatten49 wrote:
The sadness lies within your many misconceptions, Mike.

You take care, now.

BTW, we are a democratic constitutional republic.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/us-democratic-constitutional-republic-and-yes-it-matters/
You will not find the word "democracy" in any of our founding documents or the Federalist Papers.

“It has been observed by an honorable gentleman, that a pure democracy, if it were practicable, would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved, that no position in politics is more false than this. The ancient democracies, in which the people themselves deliberated, never possessed one feature of good government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.”
Alexander Hamilton, Speech to Congress, June 21, 1788

“The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to William H****r, 1790

“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Abigail Adams, February 22, 1787

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”
John Adams

"Democracy, will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes, and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure and every one of these will soon mold itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues, and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit, and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few."
John Adams

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.

Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect e******y in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

James Madison

“The same disease magnified and intensified by liberty overmasters democracy – the t***h being that the excessive increase in anything often causes a reaction in the opposite direction. The excess of liberty, whether in States or individuals, seems only to pass into excess s***ery…And so tyranny naturally arises out of democracy.”
Plato

The United States shall guarantee to every State in the Union a Republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence.
Article IV, Section 4, U.S. Constitution

"A simple democracy is the devil's own government."
Benjamin Rush

“Democracy, in its best state, is but the politics of Bedlam; while kept chained, its thoughts are frantic, but when it breaks loose, it k**ls the keeper, fires the building, and perishes.”
Fisher Ames

“At no time, at no place, in solemn convention assembled, through no chosen agents, had the American people officially proclaimed the United States to be a democracy. The Constitution did not contain the word or any word lending countenance to it, except possibly the mention of ‘We, the People,’ in the preamble…. When the Constitution was framed no respectable person called himself or herself a democrat.”
Charles and Mary Beard, American historians, 1939

“The honest and serious student of American history will recall that our Founding Fathers managed to write both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution without using the term ‘democracy’ even once. No part of any of the existing state Constitutions contains any reference to the word. [The men] who were most influential in the institution and formulation of our government refer to ‘democracy’ only to distinguish it sharply from the republican form of our American Constitutional system.”
Clarence Manion, dean of Notre Dame Law School, 1950

“The first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle of democracy. For what purpose? To abolish private property”; to “wrest, by degrees, capital from the bourgeoisie”; to “centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the State.
Karl Marx

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Jan 15, 2022 07:06:32   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
What Is a Constitutional Democratic Republic/Democratic Constitutional Republic?

A constitutional democratic republic is a type of government based on the principles of a constitution in which officials elected by the people represent the people in the legislative and governing processes. A constitutional republic is not a direct democracy in that a mere plurality of the v**ers does not get to control the processes of the government directly.

The United States is an example of a constitutional democratic republic. The government is run according to the principles of an established Constitution, and the people do not pass laws based on a direct majority. Rather, they elect representatives to a legislative body who can then represent their interests but who can only pass laws that adhere to the principles of the Constitution.

One of the main principles of the U.S. Constitution is the division of powers among the three parts of the government, the executive, legislative, and judicial branches, through a system of checks and balances. The executive branch has the power to veto laws passed by the legislative branch that it deems unconstitutional. If challenged by the people, the judicial branch has the power to strike down laws it considers unconstitutional. The legislative branch, however, retains the powers to revise such laws so that it meets the constitutional benchmarks as expressed by other branches, and it also retains the important power of passing new laws.

So, yes, The U.S. is indeed, a republic...a Democratic Constitutional Republic

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Jan 15, 2022 07:10:44   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
teabag09 wrote:
I'm so sorry to say I've just lost all respect for Slat except for his time on the front line. I think his peanut butter quip belongs more to him than he realizes. Sad day. Mike

Interesting reply to Archie, who had responded to Michael10.

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Jan 15, 2022 08:17:10   #
Justice101
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You will not find the word "democracy" in any of our founding documents or the Federalist Papers.

“It has been observed by an honorable gentleman, that a pure democracy, if it were practicable, would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved, that no position in politics is more false than this. The ancient democracies, in which the people themselves deliberated, never possessed one feature of good government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.”
Alexander Hamilton, Speech to Congress, June 21, 1788

“The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to William H****r, 1790

“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Abigail Adams, February 22, 1787

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”
John Adams

"Democracy, will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes, and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure and every one of these will soon mold itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues, and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit, and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few."
John Adams

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.

Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect e******y in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

James Madison

“The same disease magnified and intensified by liberty overmasters democracy – the t***h being that the excessive increase in anything often causes a reaction in the opposite direction. The excess of liberty, whether in States or individuals, seems only to pass into excess s***ery…And so tyranny naturally arises out of democracy.”
Plato

The United States shall guarantee to every State in the Union a Republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence.
Article IV, Section 4, U.S. Constitution

"A simple democracy is the devil's own government."
Benjamin Rush

“Democracy, in its best state, is but the politics of Bedlam; while kept chained, its thoughts are frantic, but when it breaks loose, it k**ls the keeper, fires the building, and perishes.”
Fisher Ames

“At no time, at no place, in solemn convention assembled, through no chosen agents, had the American people officially proclaimed the United States to be a democracy. The Constitution did not contain the word or any word lending countenance to it, except possibly the mention of ‘We, the People,’ in the preamble…. When the Constitution was framed no respectable person called himself or herself a democrat.”
Charles and Mary Beard, American historians, 1939

“The honest and serious student of American history will recall that our Founding Fathers managed to write both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution without using the term ‘democracy’ even once. No part of any of the existing state Constitutions contains any reference to the word. [The men] who were most influential in the institution and formulation of our government refer to ‘democracy’ only to distinguish it sharply from the republican form of our American Constitutional system.”
Clarence Manion, dean of Notre Dame Law School, 1950

“The first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle of democracy. For what purpose? To abolish private property”; to “wrest, by degrees, capital from the bourgeoisie”; to “centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the State.
Karl Marx
You will not find the word "democracy" i... (show quote)


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