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Manchin/Sinema Lies Are So Stupid They Only Make Sense To Republicans
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Jan 13, 2022 14:49:49   #
woodguru
 
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been corrected as to the misinformation they have blathered on about the role the filibuster plays in democracy, Manchin quoting it as a founding principle which it is not, in fact the founding fathers were decidedly against anything but a simple majority...in fact I believe it was Hamilton that wrote about 2/3rds majority rules degrading democracies into minority rule.

Regardless of how Manchin is corrected he acts as if he never heard the facts and reality, which is by definition lying.

https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-and-sinema-have-been-allowed-to-lie-about-the-filibuster/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Jan 13, 2022 14:53:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been corrected as to the misinformation they have blathered on about the role the filibuster plays in democracy, Manchin quoting it as a founding principle which it is not, in fact the founding fathers were decidedly against anything but a simple majority...in fact I believe it was Hamilton that wrote about 2/3rds majority rules degrading democracies into minority rule.

Regardless of how Manchin is corrected he acts as if he never heard the facts and reality, which is by definition lying.

https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-and-sinema-have-been-allowed-to-lie-about-the-filibuster/?utm_source=push_notifications
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been cor... (show quote)


Biden, Schumer both were defending Filibuster when it was convenient for them, when they were in minority.... Why are you surprised that Republicans and some Democrats are doing the same thing???? πŸ™„πŸ™„

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Jan 13, 2022 15:13:04   #
Liberty Tree
 
proud republican wrote:
Biden, Schumer both were defending Filibuster when it was convenient for them, when they were in minority.... Why are you surprised that Republicans and some Democrats are doing the same thing???? πŸ™„πŸ™„


Let them whine.

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Jan 13, 2022 15:14:54   #
WEBCO
 
woodguru wrote:
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been corrected as to the misinformation they have blathered on about the role the filibuster plays in democracy, Manchin quoting it as a founding principle which it is not, in fact the founding fathers were decidedly against anything but a simple majority...in fact I believe it was Hamilton that wrote about 2/3rds majority rules degrading democracies into minority rule.

Regardless of how Manchin is corrected he acts as if he never heard the facts and reality, which is by definition lying.

https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-and-sinema-have-been-allowed-to-lie-about-the-filibuster/?utm_source=push_notifications
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been cor... (show quote)


Democrats used the filibuster over 230 times when Trump was in office. Apparently it wasn't so bad then.

Sideman and Manchin are both doing what their constituents want.

So 48 senators are willing to push through voting rules that help people commit fraud and are clearly unconstitutional. I'm not surprised that you are in support of that.

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Jan 13, 2022 17:46:30   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Woody, you are a hypocrite. You are working on the idea that 51 have a right to rule with an iron hand and change our country at will to a far right ideology and rules to support that. But it is in fact 52 to 48 in favor of the filibuster rule and apparently democracy rules and you are having a hissy fit over it. The filibuster is there to protect minorities from outrageous political rule changes and law making by a bare minority and is a good thing. Many of the very people raging for changing the filibuster rule were raging in support for the filibuster rule in the past.

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Jan 13, 2022 18:33:12   #
JW
 
woodguru wrote:
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been corrected as to the misinformation they have blathered on about the role the filibuster plays in democracy, Manchin quoting it as a founding principle which it is not, in fact the founding fathers were decidedly against anything but a simple majority...in fact I believe it was Hamilton that wrote about 2/3rds majority rules degrading democracies into minority rule.

Regardless of how Manchin is corrected he acts as if he never heard the facts and reality, which is by definition lying.

https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-and-sinema-have-been-allowed-to-lie-about-the-filibuster/?utm_source=push_notifications
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been cor... (show quote)


The filibuster results from the Senate rules so it has been around as long as the rules have been. Manchin characterizing it as a founding principle is not incorrect.

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Jan 13, 2022 19:25:21   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
woodguru wrote:
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been corrected as to the misinformation they have blathered on about the role the filibuster plays in democracy, Manchin quoting it as a founding principle which it is not, in fact the founding fathers were decidedly against anything but a simple majority...in fact I believe it was Hamilton that wrote about 2/3rds majority rules degrading democracies into minority rule.

Regardless of how Manchin is corrected he acts as if he never heard the facts and reality, which is by definition lying.

https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-and-sinema-have-been-allowed-to-lie-about-the-filibuster/?utm_source=push_notifications
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been cor... (show quote)



"It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity."
What Hamilton ACTUALLY said about Democracy

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Jan 13, 2022 19:28:11   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
woodguru wrote:
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been corrected as to the misinformation they have blathered on about the role the filibuster plays in democracy, Manchin quoting it as a founding principle which it is not, in fact the founding fathers were decidedly against anything but a simple majority...in fact I believe it was Hamilton that wrote about 2/3rds majority rules degrading democracies into minority rule.

Regardless of how Manchin is corrected he acts as if he never heard the facts and reality, which is by definition lying.

https://www.rawstory.com/manchin-and-sinema-have-been-allowed-to-lie-about-the-filibuster/?utm_source=push_notifications
Manchin as well as Sinema have constantly been cor... (show quote)


Manchineel needs the speech delivered by Robert Deniro in Goodfellas.
The baseball analogy about when you step up to the plate , it’s a time for personal best, but not only personal best. When you are part of a team your personal best should also benefit your team , not only you.

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Jan 13, 2022 22:17:17   #
Strycker
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Manchineel needs the speech delivered by Robert Deniro in Goodfellas.
The baseball analogy about when you step up to the plate , it’s a time for personal best, but not only personal best. When you are part of a team your personal best should also benefit your team , not only you.


Yep... The American Team. I can think of 48 democrats that could take a lesson from Machin and Sinema on whats best for all Americans rather than just their party.

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Jan 13, 2022 23:31:19   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Strycker wrote:
Yep... The American Team. I can think of 48 democrats that could take a lesson from Machin and Sinema on whats best for all Americans rather than just their party.


So, you favor minority rule over the will of the people ?
How does that benefit you ?
What lesson were you talking about.?

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Jan 14, 2022 00:11:57   #
JW
 
Milosia2 wrote:
So, you favor minority rule over the will of the people ?
How does that benefit you ?
What lesson were you talking about.?


Minority rule? Hardley. A committed majority can work around it, or they can compromise. It is the only way to guarantee that the minority cannot be completely ignored.

You guys are going to love it again after the midterms.

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Jan 14, 2022 00:44:39   #
Strycker
 
JW wrote:
Minority rule? Hardley. A committed majority can work around it, or they can compromise. It is the only way to guarantee that the minority cannot be completely ignored.

You guys are going to love it again after the midterms.


The majority has ruled, 52 to 48, against the failing Progressive agenda so far. Not sure what this minority rule your talking about is.

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Jan 14, 2022 01:09:21   #
JW
 
Strycker wrote:
The majority has ruled, 52 to 48, against the failing Progressive agenda so far. Not sure what this minority rule your talking about is.


That's the compromise part I mentioned, the 52 to 48.

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Jan 14, 2022 09:27:40   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Manchineel needs the speech delivered by Robert Deniro in Goodfellas.
The baseball analogy about when you step up to the plate , it’s a time for personal best, but not only personal best. When you are part of a team your personal best should also benefit your team , not only you.


So if Joe's covering up for his son's child pornography and drug addiction, you stand with the teem no matter what. If their policies allow a half million illegal, un-vetted, un=vaxed people to flood our country you stand with your team "the Democrats", not the American people?

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Jan 14, 2022 09:52:51   #
Justice101
 
Strycker wrote:
The majority has ruled, 52 to 48, against the failing Progressive agenda so far. Not sure what this minority rule your talking about is.


Good point!

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