Heritage AKA Koch brothers propaganda Unit.
It is unconstitutional to allow onee we or two people to destroy the entire process obliterating the Will Of The People favoring a minority rule.
It’s anti American and un constitutional .
It has no bearing in the Constitution , it is not mentioned or written anywhere that a minority should have ascendency over the Majority.
Strycker
Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
They missed one of the biggies that the democrats originally had in the bill. Public funding of presidential and congressional e******ns. I don't know, but, if still in this bill, or slipped back into this bill, this funding will massively fill political e******n coffers with tax payer money by a 3 to 1 match on political donations. In 2020 14 billion was spent on the federal e******n. Under this bill the tax payers would add another 56 billion to the politicians coffers. Tax payers will be fleeced by 10's of billions in tax payers money which would be given to individual politicians to keep forever and use at will. It doesn't discourage campaign fund raising. It massively expands the incentive with matching funds.
Strycker wrote:
They missed one of the biggies that the democrats originally had in the bill. Public funding of presidential and congressional e******ns. I don't know, but, if still in this bill, or slipped back into this bill, this funding will massively fill political e******n coffers with tax payer money by a 3 to 1 match on political donations. In 2020 14 billion was spent on the federal e******n. Under this bill the tax payers would add another 56 billion to the politicians coffers. Tax payers will be fleeced by 10's of billions in tax payers money which would be given to individual politicians to keep forever and use at will. It doesn't discourage campaign fund raising. It massively expands the incentive with matching funds.
They missed one of the biggies that the democrats ... (
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It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.
moldyoldy wrote:
It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.
And who gets to decide who gets the money and how much?
Milosia2 wrote:
Heritage AKA Koch brothers propaganda Unit.
It is unconstitutional to allow onee we or two people to destroy the entire process obliterating the Will Of The People favoring a minority rule.
It’s anti American and un constitutional .
It has no bearing in the Constitution , it is not mentioned or written anywhere that a minority should have ascendency over the Majority.
And that is exactly why we need to stop the democrats!!
moldyoldy wrote:
It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.
See Stryker's comment earlier in this thread.
Strycker
Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
moldyoldy wrote:
It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.
Totally and completely wrong. Corporate lobbyist will still contribute. Probably much much more since the tax payers will match contributions 3 to 1. It would only encourage more and larger contributions. Not less.
American Vet wrote:
And who gets to decide who gets the money and how much?
It would be equally distributed
Milosia2 wrote:
Heritage AKA Koch brothers propaganda Unit.
It is unconstitutional to allow onee we or two people to destroy the entire process obliterating the Will Of The People favoring a minority rule.
It’s anti American and un constitutional .
It has no bearing in the Constitution , it is not mentioned or written anywhere that a minority should have ascendency over the Majority.
The entire purpose of the Electoral College, and state control of v****g is to prevent one or two populous states from dictating to the others. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep v****g on what's for supper. A Republic, such as we have, is two wolves and a sheep with a gun v****g on the same thing. The Electoral College and state control of e******ns are that gun. To say that all of a sudden, the same v****g process we have had for all these years is suppressive is disingenuous in the extreme. Most of the supposedly disenfranchised people who have no ID receive some sort of government stipend for which ID suitable for v****g is REQUIRED. To insist that you prove you are whom you say is not suppression; it is protection.
Colorado's mail in v****g was instituted about twenty years ago when the state had a small population and fairly low v**er turnout. easy to monitor and fix the bugs. 2020 was the highest turnout in out history with bandaids everywhere.
moldyoldy wrote:
It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.
The past two e******ns, firms associated with Wall Street and large corporations have donated more money to Democrats than Republicans. Maybe you think it's because they WANT to pay higher taxes.
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
The entire purpose of the Electoral College, and state control of v****g is to prevent one or two populous states from dictating to the others. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep v****g on what's for supper. A Republic, such as we have, is two wolves and a sheep with a gun v****g on the same thing. The Electoral College and state control of e******ns are that gun. To say that all of a sudden, the same v****g process we have had for all these years is suppressive is disingenuous in the extreme. Most of the supposedly disenfranchised people who have no ID receive some sort of government stipend for which ID suitable for v****g is REQUIRED. To insist that you prove you are whom you say is not suppression; it is protection.
Colorado's mail in v****g was instituted about twenty years ago when the state had a small population and fairly low v**er turnout. easy to monitor and fix the bugs. 2020 was the highest turnout in out history with bandaids everywhere.
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The same process? The republicans are ch*****g the process in every state possible. Why? V**er suppression, because they have no plans for governing, so they have to stop v**ers who have brains from v****g.
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
The past two e******ns, firms associated with Wall Street and large corporations have donated more money to Democrats than Republicans. Maybe you think it's because they WANT to pay higher taxes.
Can you prove that claim? Citizens United, pushed by the Koch’s claims corporations are people.
Strycker
Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
moldyoldy wrote:
It would be equally distributed
Totally wrong again. It is a matching funds. The more you raise the more the tax payers give you in matching dollars.
moldyoldy wrote:
It would be equally distributed
So I can declare myself a candidate for President, get someone to donate to my campaign, and the government will do a 3-1 contribution to my campaign?
LOL
Sounds like a good way to fleece the taxpayers!!!! No wonder leftoids like it.....
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