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Jan 15, 2022 09:45:26   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Only the president is not elected by the majority v**e and even they need to win a majority of the E*******l College.


In the House, the majority might have the most v**es but they still can't pass the bill. Destroys your premise again.

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Jan 15, 2022 10:03:15   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
drlarrygino wrote:
In the House, the majority might have the most v**es but they still can't pass the bill. Destroys your premise again.


Irrelevant to the discussion.

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Jan 15, 2022 13:13:55   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Irrelevant to the discussion.


Very relevant but I guess you don't see the relevancy.

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Jan 15, 2022 15:13:29   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Very relevant but I guess you don't see the relevancy.


drlarrygino wrote:
The majority is usually wrong and you seem to fit and want majority rule even when wrong. Just look at the W***n toxic jab mess. The majority took the toxic jab and soon to be 4 boosters but now look at the mess they are in. Declining immunity, no positive upside and deaths to the v****d occurring on a massive scale now. Stick with the majority Rascal and be wrong 90% of the time.


RascalRiley wrote:
Trump claims he won the e******n. If he did then he would represent the majority. By your logic, majority wrong, he should not be President.

That is a total contradiction of democracy. That is a recipe for banana republic.


Justice101 wrote:
https://news.yahoo.com/why-the-us-president-isnt-elected-by-national-popular-v**e-105226741.html


RascalRiley wrote:
Ok, the President is elected by the majority of E*******l College v**es.

The crux of this discussion is drlarrygino assertion that the majority is usually wrong.


drlarrygino wrote:
You can win the majority of v**es in a p**********l e******n but still lose the Presidency. Think Rascal, think. Remember, Hitlery supposedly won the total # of v**es (too many i******s and dead people v****g in Californication)but still lost to Trump. The majority of v**ers didn't have it right as our great founders knew the majority is not always right. If the majority of v**es always determined the winner we would indeed have a banana republic but the e*******l college keeps us from having a banana republic which you seem to want to live in.
You can win the majority of v**es in a p**********... (show quote)


drlarrygino wrote:
The majority had it wrong on the Russian collusion delusion, the W***n jab being safe, that Hitlery was a shoe in as our next President, that George Soreass is a great guy, that joe Bribem is good for our country, that CRT is not a r****t school program and on it goes. Don't follow the majority if you want to be right most of the time.


drlarrygino wrote:
In the House, the majority might have the most v**es but they still can't pass the bill. Destroys your premise again.


RascalRiley wrote:
Irrelevant to the discussion.


drlarrygino wrote:
Very relevant but I guess you don't see the relevancy.


If a bill receives a majority in the House it passes.

Majority rules in the House and the Senate. Bills must receive a majority of v**es in both chambers before they go the President.

If the President signs the bill that that had previously received a majority of v**es in both chambers then it becomes law.

If the President vetos the bill it goes back to Congress and requires a super majority to override that veto.

“In the House, the majority might have the most v**es but they still can't pass the bill”. This statements incorrect. The House can not enact laws but it must pass said bills by a majority before they can become laws.

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Jan 15, 2022 15:56:02   #
Justice101
 
RascalRiley wrote:
If a bill receives a majority in the House it passes.

Majority rules in the House and the Senate. Bills must receive a majority of v**es in both chambers before they go the President.

If the President signs the bill that that had previously received a majority of v**es in both chambers then it becomes law.

If the President vetos the bill it goes back to Congress and requires a super majority to override that veto.

“In the House, the majority might have the most v**es but they still can't pass the bill”. This statements incorrect. The House can not enact laws but it must pass said bills by a majority before they can become laws.
If a bill receives a majority in the House it pass... (show quote)


You wrote:
Majority rules in the House and the Senate. Bills must receive a majority of v**es in both chambers before they go the President.

Reconciliation is the process that allows Congress to pass legislation though a simple majority and avoid the risk of filibuster, but it’s only intended for a certain type of legislation.
All other legislation passes through the Senate by a supermajority of 60 v**es. That is why the democrats want to eliminate the filibuster so that they may be able to simply pass all of their bills through on their v**es of 50 Senators and use the VP to cast the tie-breaking v**e to their side.

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Jan 15, 2022 16:07:18   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Justice101 wrote:
You wrote:
Majority rules in the House and the Senate. Bills must receive a majority of v**es in both chambers before they go the President.

Reconciliation is the process that allows Congress to pass legislation though a simple majority and avoid the risk of filibuster, but it’s only intended for a certain type of legislation.
All other legislation passes through the Senate by a supermajority of 60 v**es. That is why the democrats want to eliminate the filibuster so that they may be able to simply pass all of their bills through on their v**es of 50 Senators and use the VP to cast the tie-breaking v**e to their side.
You wrote: br Majority rules in the House and the ... (show quote)


You are absolutely right. The discussion originally revolved around the majority usually being wrong.

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Jan 15, 2022 17:41:25   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
If a bill receives a majority in the House it passes.

Majority rules in the House and the Senate. Bills must receive a majority of v**es in both chambers before they go the President.

If the President signs the bill that that had previously received a majority of v**es in both chambers then it becomes law.

If the President vetos the bill it goes back to Congress and requires a super majority to override that veto.

“In the House, the majority might have the most v**es but they still can't pass the bill”. This statements incorrect. The House can not enact laws but it must pass said bills by a majority before they can become laws.
If a bill receives a majority in the House it pass... (show quote)


What you just posted is irrelevant.

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Jan 15, 2022 17:52:03   #
Justice101
 
RascalRiley wrote:
You are absolutely right. The discussion originally revolved around the majority usually being wrong.


Removing the filibuster in order to get your own way isn't right. Both Schumer and Biden have said it in the past. The Dems used it to their advantage over 300 times against the Republicans during Trump's term. That's why Sinema and Manchin are reluctant to blow it up AND knowing that the American public doesn't approve of Biden or the disastrous results of his agenda.

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