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May 22, 2013 12:39:38   #
The Dutchman (suspended)
 
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened."
Norman Thomas (1884-1968)
Defining liberal (AKA) useful idiot

The term “useful idiot” is thought to have been coined by communist mass murderer Vladimir Lenin. It describes naive communist sympathizers in the West (liberals). While Lenin and the Soviets held these stupid liberals in utter contempt, they also saw them as useful tools for dispensing propaganda.

You will often find useful idiots (aka libtards) lounging about in a Starbucks with friends, discussing the shortcomings of America over a frappuccino. Useful idiots are a mix of urban hipsters, brainwashed college kids, busy bodies, self righteous do-gooders, silver pony-tailed hippies, (now college professors), quirky wannabe-intellectuals, hysterical females, girly-men, and Michael Moore devotees.

Useful Idiot Libtards aren't necessarily bad people, and in many cases, are exceptionally warm and kind hearted. Many have high IQ's and hold advanced degrees. They can hold files full of factoids in their brains, but lack the capacity to weave them together to find a coherent pattern. Though they fancy themselves as "free thinkers", they are actually the most authority worshipping (politically correct) and servile creatures you will ever meet. When it comes to independent critical thought, they are astonishingly stupid .....and very dangerous! To paraphrase the late great Senator Joseph McCarthy, libtards are "the unwitting hand maidens of the Communists."

It is important to note that many "conservatives" are just as deluded as useful liberal idiots. They spend all of their energy attacking low level libtards, feminists, environmentalists etc, while refusing to confront the real power that pulls their strings. From lofty perches high above the cloud level, the untouchable Globalists laugh as the "right" and the "left" beat each other up.

The good news about useful idiots, is that when one of them finally figures out how he has been played, he often becomes fanatically anti-Communist / anti-Globalist. There is hope for them...or at least some of them.

Communists and Liberals: Comrades for Life

http://thecollegeconservative.com/2012/04/26/communists-and-progressive-liberals-comrades-for-life/

The Democrat Party is the NEW Communist Party in America

http://maricopaconservatives.com/2012/10/22/the-democrat-party-is-the-new-communist-party-in-america/



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May 22, 2013 15:24:09   #
oldroy
 
The Dutchman wrote:
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened."
Norman Thomas (1884-1968)
Defining liberal (AKA) useful idiot

The term “useful idiot” is thought to have been coined by communist mass murderer Vladimir Lenin. It describes naive communist sympathizers in the West (liberals). While Lenin and the Soviets held these stupid liberals in utter contempt, they also saw them as useful tools for dispensing propaganda.

You will often find useful idiots (aka libtards) lounging about in a Starbucks with friends, discussing the shortcomings of America over a frappuccino. Useful idiots are a mix of urban hipsters, brainwashed college kids, busy bodies, self righteous do-gooders, silver pony-tailed hippies, (now college professors), quirky wannabe-intellectuals, hysterical females, girly-men, and Michael Moore devotees.

Useful Idiot Libtards aren't necessarily bad people, and in many cases, are exceptionally warm and kind hearted. Many have high IQ's and hold advanced degrees. They can hold files full of factoids in their brains, but lack the capacity to weave them together to find a coherent pattern. Though they fancy themselves as "free thinkers", they are actually the most authority worshipping (politically correct) and servile creatures you will ever meet. When it comes to independent critical thought, they are astonishingly stupid .....and very dangerous! To paraphrase the late great Senator Joseph McCarthy, libtards are "the unwitting hand maidens of the Communists."

It is important to note that many "conservatives" are just as deluded as useful liberal idiots. They spend all of their energy attacking low level libtards, feminists, environmentalists etc, while refusing to confront the real power that pulls their strings. From lofty perches high above the cloud level, the untouchable Globalists laugh as the "right" and the "left" beat each other up.

The good news about useful idiots, is that when one of them finally figures out how he has been played, he often becomes fanatically anti-Communist / anti-Globalist. There is hope for them...or at least some of them.

Communists and Liberals: Comrades for Life

http://thecollegeconservative.com/2012/04/26/communists-and-progressive-liberals-comrades-for-life/

The Democrat Party is the NEW Communist Party in America

http://maricopaconservatives.com/2012/10/22/the-democrat-party-is-the-new-communist-party-in-america/
"The American people will never knowingly ado... (show quote)


I first saw the term "useful idiots" when reading about what was going on at our universities in the 20s and 30s. Yes, it was communists who were calling the easily conned students by that term. Now when some of them see the term "libtard" they go wild but that is because some of them have seen daylight but don't want to admit what they find they have been doing.

Those are two outstanding articles and the Hind girl doesn't look old enough to have written that article. It is so hard to think that kids like her have failed to make the switch to college useful idiot but she hasn't unless she is one of the reformed communists. What she says about that earlier this year meeting is just what I remember reading at that time. I guess part of that is that I just can't keep from thinking like Allen West.

The Maricopa County thing talking about us waking up too late is too true, but I am sure that many fewer than half of us are willing to go the communist direction and many of those leaners here just can't see that they are being used, like they are.

I nearly forgot that I well remember Norman Thomas saying what you quoted him as saying along with many of the things about Communism that were involved in the two articles. I am sure that being a college student at the beginning of the Cold War, 1950 - 1954, who was interested in what the Russians were doing led me to study Communism much harder than many others here who are so much younger.

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May 22, 2013 19:42:19   #
oldroy
 
How about you looking at your "My Topics" and coming back with how many people have opened this one? They don't all write replies but I bet some will learn something if they look in here.

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May 22, 2013 23:12:48   #
The Dutchman (suspended)
 
oldroy wrote:
How about you looking at your "My Topics" and coming back with how many people have opened this one? They don't all write replies but I bet some will learn something if they look in here.


I just wonder how many of the socialist / liberal / commies in here are on a wonder as to where they thought they were headed & find out the obozo is as commie as it really is? What is that? A wolf in sheeps clothing and way to many are to stupid to see it Eh?

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May 22, 2013 23:23:24   #
oldroy
 
The Dutchman wrote:
I just wonder how many of the socialist / liberal / commies in here are on a wonder as to where they thought they were headed & find out the obozo is as commie as it really is? What is that? A wolf in sheeps clothing and way to many are to stupid to see it Eh?


Look for a PM.

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May 23, 2013 09:17:26   #
stjems
 
"The Democrat Party is the NEW Communist Party in America."
These libtard do gooders apparently can't see the damage they have done to this nation with all their handouts to the economically depress people that need it so much. They have created a nation of social parasite that feed off of tax money like buzzard feed off a rotted carcass. Now their numbers have grown so the lib can't control it anymore. These parasitical libs the dumber less educated far yuppie demand more from this system than it can supply. That is not the best of it they want to bring more of these social misfits in that can't even speak English to drain a already falling system even more.
So when Doorman call them highly educated it must not have been economics. Oh the poor world we can take of you all we don't care who we kill in the process.



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May 23, 2013 21:21:05   #
The Dutchman (suspended)
 
stjems wrote:
"The Democrat Party is the NEW Communist Party in America."
These libtard do gooders apparently can't see the damage they have done to this nation with all their handouts to the economically depress people that need it so much. They have created a nation of social parasite that feed off of tax money like buzzard feed off a rotted carcass. Now their numbers have grown so the lib can't control it anymore. These parasitical libs the dumber less educated far yuppie demand more from this system than it can supply. That is not the best of it they want to bring more of these social misfits in that can't even speak English to drain a already falling system even more.
So when Doorman call them highly educated it must not have been economics. Oh the poor world we can take of you all we don't care who we kill in the process.
"The Democrat Party is the NEW Communist Part... (show quote)


Because they are what they are, useful idiots and just to stupid to realize it Eh?

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May 23, 2013 21:27:37   #
fullsailale
 
plus they have lied sooo much to the public they believe thier own lies.

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May 23, 2013 22:54:40   #
oldroy
 
fullsailale wrote:
plus they have lied sooo much to the public they believe thier own lies.


Most of them really don't know that progressives have taken over the Democrat party and they sure don't know that progressives are nothing but socialists. Most of them have no idea that socialism is nothing but a step, the last one, toward communism.

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May 25, 2013 23:17:31   #
oldroy
 
Still not one reply by a leaner who doesn't like to have his thinking exposed. I wonder when one of them will admit to having read this one.

How many of you folks know that 168 people have opened this thread? I guess there aren't that many libs here so many people must have learned something from reading it.

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May 26, 2013 02:54:34   #
ABBAsFernando
 
Isaiah, chapter 32


Compare with Revised Standard Version: Isai.32


1: Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.
2: And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land.
3: And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken.
4: The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.
5:The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.
6: For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.
7: The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.
8: But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.

9: Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.
10: Many days and years shall ye be troubled, ye careless women: for the vintage shall fail, the gathering shall not come.
11: Tremble, ye women that are at ease; be troubled, ye careless ones: strip you, and make you bare, and gird sackcloth upon your loins.
12: They shall lament for the teats, for the pleasant fields, for the fruitful vine.
13: Upon the land of my people shall come up thorns and briers; yea, upon all the houses of joy in the joyous city:
14: Because the palaces shall be forsaken; the multitude of the city shall be left; the forts and towers shall be for dens for ever, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks;
15: Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.
16: Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.
17: And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
18: And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;
19: When it shall hail, coming down on the forest; and the city shall be low in a low place.
20: Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass.
By Liberal things shall he stand
By Liberal things shall he stand...
The Liberal deviseth liberal things
The Liberal deviseth liberal things...
vile person will speak villany,
vile person will speak villany,...

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May 27, 2013 14:23:36   #
johnnyangel10
 
Hopefully I will meet you in a return to AZ?

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May 28, 2013 17:04:19   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
Isaiah, chapter 32


Compare with Revised Standard Version: Isai.32


1: Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.
2: And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land.
3: And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken.
4: The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.
5:The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.
6: For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.
7: The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.
8: But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.

9: Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.
10: Many days and years shall ye be troubled, ye careless women: for the vintage shall fail, the gathering shall not come.
11: Tremble, ye women that are at ease; be troubled, ye careless ones: strip you, and make you bare, and gird sackcloth upon your loins.
12: They shall lament for the teats, for the pleasant fields, for the fruitful vine.
13: Upon the land of my people shall come up thorns and briers; yea, upon all the houses of joy in the joyous city:
14: Because the palaces shall be forsaken; the multitude of the city shall be left; the forts and towers shall be for dens for ever, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks;
15: Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.
16: Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.
17: And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
18: And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;
19: When it shall hail, coming down on the forest; and the city shall be low in a low place.
20: Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass.
Isaiah, chapter 32 br br br Compare with Revi... (show quote)



Jesus Christ!! You still here? Can you actually write something in plain English as opposed to religious gobbledygook?

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May 28, 2013 17:06:53   #
The Progressive Patriot
 
stjems wrote:
"The Democrat Party is the NEW Communist Party in America."
These libtard do gooders apparently can't see the damage they have done to this nation with all their handouts to the economically depress people that need it so much. They have created a nation of social parasite that feed off of tax money like buzzard feed off a rotted carcass. Now their numbers have grown so the lib can't control it anymore. These parasitical libs the dumber less educated far yuppie demand more from this system than it can supply. That is not the best of it they want to bring more of these social misfits in that can't even speak English to drain a already falling system even more.
So when Doorman call them highly educated it must not have been economics. Oh the poor world we can take of you all we don't care who we kill in the process.
"The Democrat Party is the NEW Communist Part... (show quote)


Let me remind conservatives that one big reason that they lost the election is because of their insistence on maligning those who are to some degree dependent on government services, while at the same time calling for cuts to those services. They cling to the rhetoric of “makers” and the “takers” the latter of course being anyone who ever needed some help getting by. They call people who are just trying to survive in a cruel economic environment leaches and parasites. They believe, or pretend to believe that anyone can go out and get job- a job that pays a living wage anytime they wish if only they were not so lazy and content to be on the dole. They continue to complain that 47% of people pay no federal income tax but fail to acknowledge that the majority are working but too poor to have an income tax liability, in part due to the earned income tax credit and child care credit supported by Republicans. They also fail to acknowledge that these same people pay other federal taxes, as well as state and local taxes which are highly regressive.

This harsh swim or sink attitude emanates from the same people who expound a steadfast belief in lais-sez faire capitalism, and minimum regulations and safeguards against corporate excesses. They are often anti union and opposed to raising the minimum wage. What they fail to understand or acknowledge is that poverty, unemployment, and underemployment are built into the capitalist system. Even in a regulated economy, the need for labor expands and contracts as the result of a multitude of factors at home and around the world. When the economy shrinks, excess workers are sidelined. At the same time, the workforce expands and contracts, also as the result of factors that we can’t control. There is also the issue of matching skills to the available jobs geographically. Rarely is there a perfect match between those seeking jobs and the needs of business , and there is usually excess labor.

In addition they fail to grasp the fact that not only does a free market necessitate a government assistance on occasion, but the social safety nets are good for capitalism. When the economy shrinks as it always will from time to time, programs are needed to maintain societal stability and a workforce that will be to be ready to work when the system needs there services again-to work for and enrich the capitalists. In their book “Regulating the Poor: The Function of Public Welfare”, Francis Fox Piven and Richard A. Cloward make this argument, and go on to say that relief efforts not only maintain social order, but also reinforce the work ethic by ensuring that people are only given enough to subsist without being to comfortable.
I will submit to you that the only way to eliminate the much maligned dependency is to regulate business to the extent where they must put people before profits and provide a good job for all regardless of the bottom line. However that would be SOCIALISM and we can’t have that. Or, we could re-establish alms houses. What we cannot do is to have it both ways. We must either accept tighter controls on business practices to prevent the exploitation of workers in the name of profit, or stop persecuting the less fortunate victims of the unsavory side effects of free enterprise .

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May 28, 2013 18:14:55   #
The Dutchman (suspended)
 
The Progressive Patriot wrote:
Jesus Christ!! You still here? Can you actually write something in plain English as opposed to religious gobbledygook?


Beats the crap out of the mindless gobbledygook you try to pass off!

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