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If a Christian is true to Christ, it is impossible to sacrifice anything. Why? In defining sacrifice there is always some measure of pain and loss. The parents that "sacrifice" ever taking a vacation to build a college fund for their child or children. A volunteer giving up their weekend to clean the out houses and garbage cans of a Christian Camp. A soldier falling on a grenade to save his comrades from injury or death. Living by grace, there is never any pain or loss. Sacrifice is non-existent.

Tolerance and patience is moot. There is no hardship or endurance for those surrendered to grace. They easily count it all joy. Resistance to evil and suffering is living outside of grace, a function of ego. If, say, I am addicted to gambling, grace does not give me the power to resist this obsession but thoroughly removes it as a temptation.

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All the NT shouts "No Boast!"

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Almost all of us want to be considered kind and good and just and fair, good people. To be this way usually requires some measure of sacrifice (time, effort, money, image and so forth). But to be Christian, there is no sacrifice. In spirit and t***h, no one is kind or good or just or fair. In spirit and t***h, sacrifice on any sort is just vanity.

She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia

I was taught any act of kindness or charity should be anonymous. Anything else and it is not kindness or charity. I do a great deal of volunteering because I enjoy doing it. I don't consider it a sacrifice. I consider it a joy, that I am in a position to do so.

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Yes and no. There are those who think no one cares and need to see visible evidence. Most of us need to see actual evidence that people care, especially those we call friends or are family.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

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Armageddun Loc: The show me state

And I will show you a still more excellent way.
Chapter 13
The Way of Love
1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the t***h. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

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We get no credit for suffering or sacrifice; these things do not even exist in Christianity. If it is not counted as joy, it is nothing. As per good deeds. Yet it is something as per our maturity to do good deeds.