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Oct 14, 2021 12:37:37   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
Republicans fought policy. Democrats can't win a policy argument.

Democrats conjure false corruption stories and personal attacks. Then use their msm arm to light it up around the world.

The good news is that people have learned to not trust either the dems or msm as they once did.
The impeachments were a sham because no crime was committed. They were a shame on the democrat party.

Eff Joe Biden.
MAGA !

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Oct 14, 2021 14:03:00   #
3507
 
kemmer wrote:
Republicans blocked and stonewalled everything Obama said and did, so cry me a river about how Trump was "persecuted". The SCOTUS was missing one justice for almost a year because McConnell said to wait for the next president to nominate someone, yet McTurtle railroaded through Barrett's confirmation in the last minutes of the Trump admin.
The impeachments were a sham because the Republican majority refused to allow witnesses to testify.


I heartily agree. Thank you for writing what you wrote.

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Oct 14, 2021 14:05:27   #
American Vet
 
kemmer wrote:
Republicans blocked and stonewalled everything Obama said and did, so cry me a river about how Trump was "persecuted".


Blocking and stonewalling obama was simply doing their job. Thankfully

President Trump was maligned - not on policies - but simply because he wasn't part of 'the establishment' (both parties.

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Oct 14, 2021 14:16:40   #
3507
 
American Vet wrote:
Doesn't matter what you call it.

People are entitled to their opinions - no matter how crazy or non-factual. Heck, there are ELWNJ that believe biden is a "good" President.


It matters that it's unfair.

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Oct 14, 2021 14:19:04   #
American Vet
 
3507 wrote:
It matters that it's unfair.


"Unfair" is a vague term that is defined by the user.

America is about being treated equally - not "fairly".

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Oct 14, 2021 16:22:37   #
The Ms.
 
American Vet wrote:
"Unfair" is a vague term that is defined by the user.

America is about being treated equally - not "fairly".


Fair is about Process…. NOT Outcome!

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Oct 14, 2021 16:48:04   #
American Vet
 
The Ms. wrote:
Fair is about Process…. NOT Outcome!


You need to provide more context to that.

I disagree - "fair" is subjective. Even a process must be equal.

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Oct 14, 2021 16:53:49   #
The Ms.
 
American Vet wrote:
You need to provide more context to that.

I disagree - "fair" is subjective. Even a process must be equal.


Context: the same standards, same rules, same consideration ….. applied equally to all….. no preferential treatment! How’s that????

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Oct 14, 2021 17:06:59   #
American Vet
 
The Ms. wrote:
Context: the same standards, same rules, same consideration ….. applied equally to all….. no preferential treatment! How’s that????


Key words: "equally applied". In that context = "fair".


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Oct 14, 2021 18:10:40   #
The Ms.
 
American Vet wrote:
Key words: "equally applied". In that context = "fair".



🙏🙏🙏

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Oct 14, 2021 23:38:46   #
3507
 
American Vet wrote:
"Unfair" is a vague term that is defined by the user.

America is about being treated equally - not "fairly".


When Republicans control the Senate, Supreme Court nominees nominated by Democratic presidents are treated unequally with Supreme Court nominees nominated by Republican presidents, in the confirmation process; and it's not just a little unequal, it's grossly unequal. And, more importantly, it's grossly unfair, whether somebody thinks America is about fairness or not.

It's grossly unequal and grossly unfair to the majority of the U.S. population, which favors Democratic presidents and their nominees. And this ine******y and unfairness lasts a long time, particularly because justices sit on the Supreme Court for so long before they are replaced; but it looks like it's about to be ameliorated a little bit, because the bipartisan group Biden appointed appears to be going in the direction of term limits for Supreme Court justices -- still long terms but not quite as long as life terms.

If those term limits are implemented, then future people of all parties can thank the Biden administration for this very modest and measured improvement. But they may also want to thank the Republicans for having been _so_ bad that this change became so clearly necessary to limit how long such ill deeds as theirs would last in the future compositions of the Supreme Court. It's like we can thank King George III for being so bad that he made the American Revolution necessary and so now we have the United States of America. Thank you, George III.

Of course it might all be made topsy-turvy all over again next time Republicans are more "in power" as they think up the next bizarre thing that they'll do. It's probably not literally against the written law to stonewall the opposing party's nominees forever, and it's also not literally against the written law to do a whole lot of other things too, even some (additional) very unequal and unfair things.

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Oct 15, 2021 05:08:06   #
hbmac10
 
kemmer wrote:
Republicans blocked and stonewalled everything Obama said and did, so cry me a river about how Trump was "persecuted". The SCOTUS was missing one justice for almost a year because McConnell said to wait for the next president to nominate someone, yet McTurtle railroaded through Barrett's confirmation in the last minutes of the Trump admin.
The impeachments were a sham because the Republican majority refused to allow witnesses to testify.


It is the House that hears the witnesses and then draw up articles of impeachment and as I recall there were plenty of house witnesses.
The senate hears the evidence and tries the case and then v**e ya or nay.

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Oct 15, 2021 07:19:43   #
American Vet
 
3507 wrote:
When Republicans control the Senate, Supreme Court nominees nominated by Democratic presidents are treated unequally with Supreme Court nominees nominated by Republican presidents, in the confirmation process; and it's not just a little unequal, it's grossly unequal. And, more importantly, it's grossly unfair, whether somebody thinks America is about fairness or not.

It's grossly unequal and grossly unfair to the majority of the U.S. population, which favors Democratic presidents and their nominees. And this ine******y and unfairness lasts a long time, particularly because justices sit on the Supreme Court for so long before they are replaced; but it looks like it's about to be ameliorated a little bit, because the bipartisan group Biden appointed appears to be going in the direction of term limits for Supreme Court justices -- still long terms but not quite as long as life terms.

If those term limits are implemented, then future people of all parties can thank the Biden administration for this very modest and measured improvement. But they may also want to thank the Republicans for having been _so_ bad that this change became so clearly necessary to limit how long such ill deeds as theirs would last in the future compositions of the Supreme Court. It's like we can thank King George III for being so bad that he made the American Revolution necessary and so now we have the United States of America. Thank you, George III.

Of course it might all be made topsy-turvy all over again next time Republicans are more "in power" as they think up the next bizarre thing that they'll do. It's probably not literally against the written law to stonewall the opposing party's nominees forever, and it's also not literally against the written law to do a whole lot of other things too, even some (additional) very unequal and unfair things.
When Republicans control the Senate, Supreme Court... (show quote)


Is it illegal? No

Then both parties are simply following the political process that has been established/enacted.

You say it is "unfair"; others say the Republicans are simply doing what they are elected to do.

If, as you say, the majority of the American people favor democrats - how do Republicans manage to 'control' (have a majority) the Senate?

It is a common tactic to something is "unfair" because one does not like the outcome.

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Oct 15, 2021 07:29:11   #
The Ms.
 
3507 wrote:
When Republicans control the Senate, Supreme Court nominees nominated by Democratic presidents are treated unequally with Supreme Court nominees nominated by Republican presidents, in the confirmation process; and it's not just a little unequal, it's grossly unequal. And, more importantly, it's grossly unfair, whether somebody thinks America is about fairness or not.

It's grossly unequal and grossly unfair to the majority of the U.S. population, which favors Democratic presidents and their nominees. And this ine******y and unfairness lasts a long time, particularly because justices sit on the Supreme Court for so long before they are replaced; but it looks like it's about to be ameliorated a little bit, because the bipartisan group Biden appointed appears to be going in the direction of term limits for Supreme Court justices -- still long terms but not quite as long as life terms.

If those term limits are implemented, then future people of all parties can thank the Biden administration for this very modest and measured improvement. But they may also want to thank the Republicans for having been _so_ bad that this change became so clearly necessary to limit how long such ill deeds as theirs would last in the future compositions of the Supreme Court. It's like we can thank King George III for being so bad that he made the American Revolution necessary and so now we have the United States of America. Thank you, George III.

Of course it might all be made topsy-turvy all over again next time Republicans are more "in power" as they think up the next bizarre thing that they'll do. It's probably not literally against the written law to stonewall the opposing party's nominees forever, and it's also not literally against the written law to do a whole lot of other things too, even some (additional) very unequal and unfair things.
When Republicans control the Senate, Supreme Court... (show quote)


Whoever said politics was Fair! Definition of screw or be screwed!!!!

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Oct 16, 2021 00:04:27   #
3507
 
American Vet wrote:
You need to provide more context to that.

I disagree - "fair" is subjective. Even a process must be equal.


Often, "fair" and "equal" coincide.

I agree with you that "fair" is more subjective than "equal"; however, "fairness" is still very important.

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