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Translators --something all need to be aware of
Oct 13, 2021 04:11:03   #
skyrider
 
Over a period of at least the last 50 years, I have had occasions to use "translators" in many different countries.
This everyday situation , in my opinion is a huge contributor to frictions, disagreements and even conflicts between cultures and countries. Unless one has access to an extremely well trained translator, one who has been totally immersed in the language and customs of both of the two languages involved, for a lifetime, there will be problems. That kind of translator is a very rare find.
Even with the same language , the meaning often changes. Example : if I tell Bob to tell Joe a story, it is not likely that Joe will get my exact meaning.
I have hired translators in countries who were University teachers of English in their country, only to find later that what they had translated to a client or supplier was not at all what I had said and was the reason for a less than successful negotiation.
So everyone needs to be aware that the news that they hear from other countries always has to be researched and verified. Even minor inflections can change the whole story. And it does.

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Oct 13, 2021 04:15:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
skyrider wrote:
Over a period of at least the last 50 years, I have had occasions to use "translators" in many different countries.
This everyday situation , in my opinion is a huge contributor to frictions, disagreements and even conflicts between cultures and countries. Unless one has access to an extremely well trained translator, one who has been totally immersed in the language and customs of both of the two languages involved, for a lifetime, there will be problems. That kind of translator is a very rare find.
Even with the same language , the meaning often changes. Example : if I tell Bob to tell Joe a story, it is not likely that Joe will get my exact meaning.
I have hired translators in countries who were University teachers of English in their country, only to find later that what they had translated to a client or supplier was not at all what I had said and was the reason for a less than successful negotiation.
So everyone needs to be aware that the news that they hear from other countries always has to be researched and verified. Even minor inflections can change the whole story. And it does.
Over a period of at least the last 50 years, I hav... (show quote)


Well said....

It's astonishing how often translators make mistakes...

And how often information gets lost in the translation...

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Oct 13, 2021 05:51:55   #
skyrider
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Well said....

It's astonishing how often translators make mistakes...

And how often information gets lost in the translation...


I'm sure you understand this very well in your business, Canuk .But getting lost in translation is not as bad as not getting lost and coming out with an entirely different meaning . Also another reason why punctuation is so important,
but not at all a strong point with most translators.

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Oct 13, 2021 07:17:40   #
American Vet
 
skyrider wrote:
I'm sure you understand this very well in your business, Canuk .But getting lost in translation is not as bad as not getting lost and coming out with an entirely different meaning . Also another reason why punctuation is so important,
but not at all a strong point with most translators.


Punctuation is important......

Let's eat, Grandma.
Let's eat Grandma.

Woman without her her man is nothing.
Woman, without her, man is nothing.



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Oct 13, 2021 08:22:52   #
skyrider
 
American Vet wrote:
Punctuation is important......

Let's eat, Grandma.
Let's eat Grandma.

Woman without her her man is nothing.
Woman, without her, man is nothing.




And there you have it.

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Oct 15, 2021 09:31:55   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
skyrider wrote:
Over a period of at least the last 50 years, I have had occasions to use "translators" in many different countries.
This everyday situation , in my opinion is a huge contributor to frictions, disagreements and even conflicts between cultures and countries. Unless one has access to an extremely well trained translator, one who has been totally immersed in the language and customs of both of the two languages involved, for a lifetime, there will be problems. That kind of translator is a very rare find.
Even with the same language , the meaning often changes. Example : if I tell Bob to tell Joe a story, it is not likely that Joe will get my exact meaning.
I have hired translators in countries who were University teachers of English in their country, only to find later that what they had translated to a client or supplier was not at all what I had said and was the reason for a less than successful negotiation.
So everyone needs to be aware that the news that they hear from other countries always has to be researched and verified. Even minor inflections can change the whole story. And it does.
Over a period of at least the last 50 years, I hav... (show quote)

It also apples to people that mispronounce certain words! I got a killer deal on some glassware because the dude said they were Spose instead of spode! I had checked them out before hand and knew what they were!! Worked for me!!!

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