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Oct 13, 2021 08:34:03   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
Well Slatts, I'll tell ya what. I'm just about fed up with all of these labels we seem to hafta wear now.
Am I a patriot? I reckon I am. Do other people think so? I don't give a s**t.
I'm a Texan/American, heterosexual, white male who busts his ass for his family, and others. I believe there are 2 g****rs, and marriage is between one man, and one woman. Eh.........not gonna rant off on ya here......hang on a sec.....gotta pee.....alright, I'm back, where was I? Oh yeah, the Patriot thing.
According to the writer of this article, I am, because I've carried mail throughout this whole s**tshow without missing a day. I've done it day, night, and through all of the gawdawful weather.

Rain, sleet, snow, wind, dark of night, dog attacks, dumbasses, management, these couriers.......well, however that thing goes.
Sounds nobel, and all, but whoever wrote that crap needs to be dug up, and re-k**led!

There's my half cent!!

Have a good evening Slat!👍
Well Slatts, I'll tell ya what. I'm just about fed... (show quote)

Based on my personal time with of you, you are truly a patriot in every sense of the word. However, that doesn't mean we won't have disagreements. I see nothing wrong with that

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Oct 13, 2021 18:37:06   #
Big Kahuna
 
slatten49 wrote:
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 .

The words “my country, right or wrong” are used often to express allegiance to a nation no matter what it does. It was first proposed as a toast but later amended by Carl Schurz in an 1872 U.S. Senate speech: “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right, and if wrong, to be set right.”

Patriotism means supporting the country when it lives up to the values expressed in its reason for being but also helping to set it right when it violates the principles expressed in its Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I honor the patriots who serve others. Remembering the events of Sept. 11, 2001, I recall those first responders who rushed into the burning towers to rescue others or those 40 passengers and crew members of United Airlines Flight 93 who sought to thwart a planned attack on our capital.

In many ways and places there are patriots who sacrifice their own comfort to serve others. I think of the many health care workers who serve victims of C****-** in hospitals. I recall teachers who remain in classrooms to teach children. I think of politicians who (should) put the country before their re-e******ns. And I think of countless others who day by day help us — from mail carriers to store clerks.

George Orwell, an English journalist and author of the novel, 1984, wrote: “By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.”

Patriotism depends on unity of purpose, people of quite different political or religious views who pledge allegiance to “one nation, with liberty and justice for all.” True patriots see their responsibility not only to their own needs but the community needs as well.

President George Washington in his farewell address warned us about party politics: “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissension … is itself a frightful despotism … In governments purely elective, a spirit of party is not to be encouraged … a fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.”

Speaking at a Flight 93 memorial service September 11, President George W. Bush recalled the unity of purpose most felt after the tragedy but also issued this warning about the present time in our national history from those within our country with a “disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols…”

I think the words of President John F. Kennedy at his 1961 inauguration address might help heal our wounds and draw out our better angels: “Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country”.

I believe we are at a (long past) point in our history when we need to think and act about what is best for our country, adherence to our constitutional norms, not sacrificing them to enhance our desires.
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 . br... (show quote)


Slatten, face it, you are a Patsyot, not a Patriot.

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Oct 13, 2021 19:13:39   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 .

The words “my country, right or wrong” are used often to express allegiance to a nation no matter what it does. It was first proposed as a toast but later amended by Carl Schurz in an 1872 U.S. Senate speech: “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right, and if wrong, to be set right.”

Patriotism means supporting the country when it lives up to the values expressed in its reason for being but also helping to set it right when it violates the principles expressed in its Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I honor the patriots who serve others. Remembering the events of Sept. 11, 2001, I recall those first responders who rushed into the burning towers to rescue others or those 40 passengers and crew members of United Airlines Flight 93 who sought to thwart a planned attack on our capital.

In many ways and places there are patriots who sacrifice their own comfort to serve others. I think of the many health care workers who serve victims of C****-** in hospitals. I recall teachers who remain in classrooms to teach children. I think of politicians who (should) put the country before their re-e******ns. And I think of countless others who day by day help us — from mail carriers to store clerks.

George Orwell, an English journalist and author of the novel, 1984, wrote: “By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.”

Patriotism depends on unity of purpose, people of quite different political or religious views who pledge allegiance to “one nation, with liberty and justice for all.” True patriots see their responsibility not only to their own needs but the community needs as well.

President George Washington in his farewell address warned us about party politics: “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissension … is itself a frightful despotism … In governments purely elective, a spirit of party is not to be encouraged … a fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.”

Speaking at a Flight 93 memorial service September 11, President George W. Bush recalled the unity of purpose most felt after the tragedy but also issued this warning about the present time in our national history from those within our country with a “disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols…”

I think the words of President John F. Kennedy at his 1961 inauguration address might help heal our wounds and draw out our better angels: “Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country”.

I believe we are at a (long past) point in our history when we need to think and act about what is best for our country, adherence to our constitutional norms, not sacrificing them to enhance our desires.
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 . br... (show quote)


This is refreshing for its absence of “the other guys aren’t real patriots” innuendo.

Good article.

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Oct 13, 2021 20:18:23   #
The Ms.
 
slatten49 wrote:
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 .

The words “my country, right or wrong” are used often to express allegiance to a nation no matter what it does. It was first proposed as a toast but later amended by Carl Schurz in an 1872 U.S. Senate speech: “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right, and if wrong, to be set right.”

Patriotism means supporting the country when it lives up to the values expressed in its reason for being but also helping to set it right when it violates the principles expressed in its Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I honor the patriots who serve others. Remembering the events of Sept. 11, 2001, I recall those first responders who rushed into the burning towers to rescue others or those 40 passengers and crew members of United Airlines Flight 93 who sought to thwart a planned attack on our capital.

In many ways and places there are patriots who sacrifice their own comfort to serve others. I think of the many health care workers who serve victims of C****-** in hospitals. I recall teachers who remain in classrooms to teach children. I think of politicians who (should) put the country before their re-e******ns. And I think of countless others who day by day help us — from mail carriers to store clerks.

George Orwell, an English journalist and author of the novel, 1984, wrote: “By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.”

Patriotism depends on unity of purpose, people of quite different political or religious views who pledge allegiance to “one nation, with liberty and justice for all.” True patriots see their responsibility not only to their own needs but the community needs as well.

President George Washington in his farewell address warned us about party politics: “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissension … is itself a frightful despotism … In governments purely elective, a spirit of party is not to be encouraged … a fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.”

Speaking at a Flight 93 memorial service September 11, President George W. Bush recalled the unity of purpose most felt after the tragedy but also issued this warning about the present time in our national history from those within our country with a “disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols…”

I think the words of President John F. Kennedy at his 1961 inauguration address might help heal our wounds and draw out our better angels: “Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country”.

I believe we are at a (long past) point in our history when we need to think and act about what is best for our country, adherence to our constitutional norms, not sacrificing them to enhance our desires.
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 . br... (show quote)


Agree, go tell it to the current administration!

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Oct 13, 2021 20:24:07   #
woodguru
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***Especially the last sentence - that needs to be carefully read by everyone (especially the l*****t in our country.
>>>We can't even get the l*****ts on OPP to read anything like that through to the finish.


This l*****t reads that from a 180 degree flip, you see it from the real american, we the people spun mess it is, and patriotism is against anything "real patriots", and "real americans" believe is going on, real patriots are destroying democracy

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Oct 14, 2021 12:40:42   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Slatten, face it, you are a Patsyot, not a Patriot.


You are nothing but a blowhard with a 3rd grade school yard bully attitude Larry. You would pee right down your leg if you had faced even one enemy Slatten fought.

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Oct 14, 2021 13:26:19   #
Bassman65
 
slatten49 wrote:
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 .

The words “my country, right or wrong” are used often to express allegiance to a nation no matter what it does. It was first proposed as a toast but later amended by Carl Schurz in an 1872 U.S. Senate speech: “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right, and if wrong, to be set right.”

Patriotism means supporting the country when it lives up to the values expressed in its reason for being but also helping to set it right when it violates the principles expressed in its Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I honor the patriots who serve others. Remembering the events of Sept. 11, 2001, I recall those first responders who rushed into the burning towers to rescue others or those 40 passengers and crew members of United Airlines Flight 93 who sought to thwart a planned attack on our capital.

In many ways and places there are patriots who sacrifice their own comfort to serve others. I think of the many health care workers who serve victims of C****-** in hospitals. I recall teachers who remain in classrooms to teach children. I think of politicians who (should) put the country before their re-e******ns. And I think of countless others who day by day help us — from mail carriers to store clerks.

George Orwell, an English journalist and author of the novel, 1984, wrote: “By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.”

Patriotism depends on unity of purpose, people of quite different political or religious views who pledge allegiance to “one nation, with liberty and justice for all.” True patriots see their responsibility not only to their own needs but the community needs as well.

President George Washington in his farewell address warned us about party politics: “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissension … is itself a frightful despotism … In governments purely elective, a spirit of party is not to be encouraged … a fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.”

Speaking at a Flight 93 memorial service September 11, President George W. Bush recalled the unity of purpose most felt after the tragedy but also issued this warning about the present time in our national history from those within our country with a “disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols…”

I think the words of President John F. Kennedy at his 1961 inauguration address might help heal our wounds and draw out our better angels: “Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country”.

I believe we are at a (long past) point in our history when we need to think and act about what is best for our country, adherence to our constitutional norms, not sacrificing them to enhance our desires.
By columnist John C. Morgan...October 6, 2021 . br... (show quote)


Very well said especially the last paragraph

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Oct 14, 2021 16:28:22   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
You are nothing but a blowhard with a 3rd grade school yard bully attitude Larry. You would pee right down your leg if you had faced even one enemy Slatten fought.


Three cheers for 3rd graders
This brings back memories. While sitting on an Air America Flight with 18 of my buddies in 67, A Contractor looked at me and said
"Never bragg on your accomplishments.Just remember, you were never here"...



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Oct 14, 2021 21:50:15   #
Big Kahuna
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
You are nothing but a blowhard with a 3rd grade school yard bully attitude Larry. You would pee right down your leg if you had faced even one enemy Slatten fought.


Ease up Coos. You don't even want to begin to think about the enemies I have faced. Slaten may have faced enemies but my enemies made Stalag 13 look like child's play.

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Oct 15, 2021 10:08:03   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Weasel wrote:
Three cheers for 3rd graders
This brings back memories. While sitting on an Air America Flight with 18 of my buddies in 67, A Contractor looked at me and said
"Never bragg on your accomplishments.Just remember, you were never here"...


To be humble is a virtue. How you treat others is a dead give away of your character.

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Oct 15, 2021 12:01:15   #
American Vet
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
To be humble is a virtue. How you treat others is a dead give away of your character.


Does that apply to you?

"Coos Bay Tom wrote: You are nothing but a blowhard with a 3rd grade school yard bully attitude"

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Oct 15, 2021 20:16:18   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
American Vet wrote:
Does that apply to you?

"Coos Bay Tom wrote: You are nothing but a blowhard with a 3rd grade school yard bully attitude"


Just calling them as I see them. Also Slatten is my friend in real life .Read Larrys' remark to him concerning his patriotism. I think you know about buddys.

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Oct 16, 2021 08:08:43   #
American Vet
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Just calling them as I see them.


You believe that saying this about another is "humble"?
"You are nothing but a blowhard with a 3rd grade school yard bully attitude"

If so, then you should remain quiet when another person makes their comments since they are simply 'calling them as they see them".

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Oct 16, 2021 08:58:11   #
Rose42
 
American Vet wrote:
You believe that saying this about another is "humble"?
"You are nothing but a blowhard with a 3rd grade school yard bully attitude"

If so, then you should remain quiet when another person makes their comments since they are simply 'calling them as they see them".


He was defending his friend. The remarks to slatten were totally uncalled for.

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Oct 16, 2021 09:00:33   #
American Vet
 
Rose42 wrote:
He was defending his friend. The remarks to slatten were totally uncalled for.


What remark did I make to slatten?

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