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Oct 8, 2021 18:28:50   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually we were just seeing where two v******ted people died within a minute of each other in Michigan.

I know I can get C***d, it is not supposed to be as bad, but there are breakthrough deaths and I have a very challenged i****e s****m, as does my aunt and uncle, he is on dialysis but that has been getting better.

You know what it is about an anti v**xer that makes them even more dangerous to people who need to be careful? They are anti mask, don't give a damn about other people, they act like they don't worry about a thing including if they aren't feeling well, a large percentage of those people will not responsibly stay home of they are not feeling good, nor do they want to even know if they have c***d.

My wife and I are still reasonably careful, we haven't eaten out since C***d last year, we are fine doing without it.
Actually we were just seeing where two v******ted ... (show quote)


I am not anti- mask, so if I wear mask why should I have to be forced v******ted too?

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Oct 8, 2021 18:33:07   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
proud republican wrote:
Because I can't visit my good friend in retirement home because you have to show proof of v******tion.... Because I don't have $1,000, $2,000 not to mention $5,000 in fines I will have to pay....I h**e this, but living in California I don't have much of a choice right now...

I live here too and had C***d I will be getting a f**e card as well as many others!! F**e mandates and governance requires these actions!! U can steal and burn this state down and get away with it but be prosecuted for not complying wirh their n**i edicts!
Let’s go Brandon!!! And u too nuisance!!

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Oct 8, 2021 18:33:53   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
proud republican wrote:
So am I, believe me!


Hope u don’t end up systematic! I’ll pray for you

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Oct 8, 2021 18:37:56   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Hope u don’t end up systematic! I’ll pray for you


Systematic??

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Oct 8, 2021 18:39:39   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
Systematic??


He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, don't listen to him...

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Oct 8, 2021 18:40:59   #
woodguru
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
I live here too and had C***d I will be getting a f**e card as well as many others!! F**e mandates and governance requires these actions!! U can steal and burn this state down and get away with it but be prosecuted for not complying wirh their n**i edicts!
Let’s go Brandon!!! And u too nuisance!!


Be careful when places actually check the numbers and who it is registered to.

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Oct 8, 2021 18:45:36   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
pegw wrote:
Being v******ted is not a bad thing. You will feel safer going around doing your normal life. I felt much safer after my shot. In fact i was avoiding friends, not going out to eat etc. I stoped doing that after my second shot. It does not have many side effects, and most likely you will have no more than a sore arm, or in my case, fluey for the day after my second shot. These side affects mean your i****e s****m is working.
I am glad you are doing something, even if your motives are not noble.
Being v******ted is not a bad thing. You will feel... (show quote)


What do you mean "her motives aren't noble? You realize she has natural immunity? Maybe you are the one who should look up noble, you sure wont find "shoving $hit down people's throats they don't want in the definition".

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Oct 8, 2021 18:45:51   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Like I said before, the problem with this Government/ governor he's forcing people to do, like they did in old Soviet Union...The only reason I'm even thinking of complying is because 1 I haven't seen my friend in 5yrs and 2 most important we (my family) were going to celebrate my mom's birthday in her favorite restaurant..... but we have to show proof of this damn v*****e..

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Oct 8, 2021 18:47:51   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
woodguru wrote:
Natural immunity is only as good as the next variation, and being exposed to a high number of C***d germs such as being around someone infected will overwhelm natural immunity.


a v*****e is only as good as the next variation!

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Oct 8, 2021 18:52:19   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then V*****e Immunity. So if you have nartural immunity, how would being v******ted protect friend more. Maybe it's the friend who needs to get v******te!

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Oct 8, 2021 18:52:49   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
microphor wrote:
What do you mean "her motives aren't noble? You realize she has natural immunity? Maybe you are the one who should look up noble, you sure wont find "shoving $hit down people's throats they don't want in the definition".


Thank you, microphor!

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Oct 8, 2021 18:59:09   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
[quote=microphor]Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then V*****e Immunity. So if you have nartural immunity, how would being v******ted protect friend more. Maybe it's the friend who needs to get v******te![/quote

I wish I can make Dr Makary fit in my pocket so I can go anywhere I want to and Dr Makary tell people I have natural immunity...lol

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Oct 8, 2021 19:20:54   #
woodguru
 
[quote=proud republican][quote=microphor]Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then V*****e Immunity. So if you have nartural immunity, how would being v******ted protect friend more. Maybe it's the friend who needs to get v******te![/quote

I wish I can make Dr Makary fit in my pocket so I can go anywhere I want to and Dr Makary tell people I have natural immunity...lol[/quote]

Nobody buys the crap this clown is selling

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Oct 8, 2021 19:23:40   #
CarryOn
 
woodguru wrote:
Natural immunity is only as good as the next variation, and being exposed to a high number of C***d germs such as being around someone infected will overwhelm natural immunity.


Wh**ever we hear today about the "effectiveness" of the v*****es and wh**ever we do NOT hear today about the benefits of natural immunity .. is only as good as the next contradictory statement from Fauxi et al.

T***h is, the jury is still out on all of this as far as I am concerned. We keep getting misinformation and are told to "do this" and "don't do that" and "follow orders from comrade Fauxi or else," and then a few months later, well we changed our minds, or the science has evolved, or wh**ever the next excuse is.

A couple of months or so ago, the fda website stated that the fda and cdc issued a joint statement that the v*****es worked against c***d AND variants, including the delta variant, AND that natural immunity did AS WELL. After pressure from the cdc, the statement was removed.

Almost every few weeks, it's a different story, and I am done with all of them. I got the v*****e early this year when they first came out because I am a caregiver and I felt it was the best thing to do at the time. Also, because we were told THEN that if we got the v*****e we wouldn't have to wear masks anymore.

"Get the v*****e," they said.
"You won't have to wear a mask," they said.
"It'll be fun," they said.

But, guess what, it wasn't more than a couple months that we were hearing an entirely different story. Mask mandates everywhere, v******ted or not.

Also, remember they all told us there would not be any v*****e mandates. Remember that little gem? Well, lookie here now what's goin' on.

No, I do not believe anything they say. And when they tell us the "science is evolving" that's just an excuse for "we screwed up ... again." Fact is, they appear to be totally incompetent. The simple fact that they refuse to even consider natural immunity is very telling as far as I am concerned because that is a big part of this "science" thing they keep talking about. Fauxi's only comment, when asked directly about it, was something like, "well it's something we need to discuss." But then he didn't discuss it. He just moved on to the next thing.

V*****es may be effective, and I don't believe it will cause problems for me. But I am old and do not have to be concerned about long term effects and especially effects on the reproductive system and potential harm to unborn and yet to be conceived children. If I were of childbearing age, I absolutely would not get it. I will never believe there has been enough time to do enough studies that these incompetent fools who have been jerking us around can say with any certainty that it is safe for that group. They don't say much of anything that could be considered as said "with certainty."

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Oct 8, 2021 19:26:28   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Nobody buys the crap this clown is selling


There are a lot of doctors who feel the same way!

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