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Sep 24, 2021 18:23:20   #
woodguru
 
EmilyD wrote:

The prejudicial claim forms are more about racism than medical history. Medical history, such as vaccines and other drug therapies and treatments, is IMPORTANT for the treatment of the patient at the hospital they present at. The color of their skin is not. But they're not asking if they've been vaccinated....a very important question about the patient's medical history.


I am referring to the growing sense that people are becoming sensitized to whether they are being treated differently because they are unvaccinated.

People are going to understandably be concerned about being turned away from ICU care, especially when there are two available openings and four people that need them.

Doctors are looking at Covid patients that have been on life support for weeks and pulling the plug on them when it would not be an issue if they didn't need the space for others more likely to survive.

The fact of the matter is that I doubt vaccination status is going to come into the equation that much, a Covid patient that has been on life support and is unlikely to survive doesn't matter whether they have been vaccinated or not...pulling the plug on them for that reason has little to do with it. I'm sure the families of someone who was unvaccinated that is being taken off life support is going to believe that it has something to do with it... and there is a 90% chance they will not have been vaccinated.

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Sep 24, 2021 18:25:42   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
woodguru wrote:
Knock them out until they arrive where they can be arrested and charged.


Street justice when someone causes pain and or suffering, example someone that runs over or hits an another, and tries to cover up / lie, those street justice will chase down the offender and knock their teeth out and bloody them up and hold them for LEO’s. It coming to a head and the tempers will flare on those who have crossed the majority of people who voted for faggots in little girls restrooms. If you contributed against the mainstay Americans you deserve to have your teeth knocked out. IMO.

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Sep 24, 2021 21:43:33   #
EmilyD
 
woodguru wrote:
I am referring to the growing sense that people are becoming sensitized to whether they are being treated differently because they are unvaccinated.

People are going to understandably be concerned about being turned away from ICU care, especially when there are two available openings and four people that need them.

Doctors are looking at Covid patients that have been on life support for weeks and pulling the plug on them when it would not be an issue if they didn't need the space for others more likely to survive.

The fact of the matter is that I doubt vaccination status is going to come into the equation that much, a Covid patient that has been on life support and is unlikely to survive doesn't matter whether they have been vaccinated or not...pulling the plug on them for that reason has little to do with it. I'm sure the families of someone who was unvaccinated that is being taken off life support is going to believe that it has something to do with it... and there is a 90% chance they will not have been vaccinated.
I am referring to the growing sense that people ar... (show quote)

You are not providing any information that doctors and hospitals are turning away people because they are unvaccinated. I've asked you to provide backup to this accusation, but you don't. I've looked, and all I can see is that it might happen. All I can find is that the vaccinated think they are more deserving to be "ahead" of people who are unvaccinated because they have taken the injection. I've seen that a few hospitals are re-directing some patients to other area hospitals...but none of them that I can determine are turning anyone away because they are unvaccinated.

Furthermore, if the admitting nurse does not ask if someone is vaccinated how are the hospital employees going to know to turn them away? IOW, if they don't know the vaccine status, how can they discriminate???

The thing is, it's becoming apparent that the vaccinated might be even more dangerous than the unvaccinated. What are you going to do if they decide to turn VACCINATED away from hospitals. I know, that sounds ridiculous.... just about as ridiculous as turning unvaccinated away. People like you who are full of hatred might want the unvaccinated to be turned away, but it just isn't going to happen. Fortunately, you won't be cheering and clapping about it, much to your dismay.

And what you KEEP ignoring is that Covid is not a death knell. Far from it. The people who have died from it represent less than one percent of the US population. Of all the people who have contracted the virus, less than two percent of them have died. And the stats for deaths and recoveries are not favorable to your argument. (See Worldometer report and table below.)

Vaccinated people who are presenting at the hospital (why is that, by the way??) are not likely to die from the virus. They are more likely to die from the side effects of the virus drugs they've been injected with.





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Sep 24, 2021 22:18:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:


I will put cool and collected consequences against uncontrolled rage any time.
When were you ever cool and collected about anything?

Case you're not aware, those who refuse to wear a mask have legitimate reasons, most of which are critical to our future as a free nation. There are also definite health issues in wearing a mask for any length of time.

I've seen people driving alone in their car, windows rolled up, wearing a mask.
that isn't "following the science", that is FEAR. Irrational, politically induced FEAR.

Cool and collected, hey? OK, you talk a good game, so play it, and stop venting your anger and rage at those who won't kiss the tyrant's ring.

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Sep 25, 2021 02:02:06   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
woodguru wrote:
Angry out of control people are just that, they are a menace to society...there is no other way to put it. They are losing it over nothing, flipping out on people and hurting them. Knocking an employees teeth out because they asked you to wear a mask?

Airlines are one thing...really? Flip out and attack people because stewards ask you to wear a mask that is was made perfectly clear you would be required to wear? This is behavior that airlines are going to have to start putting air marshalls onboard so that they can effectively end outbursts with whatever force they deem necessary...I'm thinking a million volt zap, and wake up zip tied, and carried off to jail when you arrive at your destination. The penalties need to be extreme enough to just plain make this not worth it. People just want to get where they are going without the drama and entertainment of total frigging idiots.

Now this is boiling over into hospitals...people who for different reasons centered around freedom, ignorance, and political statements, are bringing their special brand of anger and rage to hospitals and the healthcare workers that have nothing to do with whatever has people's panties in such a bunch.

Those who are unvaccinated need to keep a few realities right close to mind that they wouldn't even be there if they had simply gotten vaccinated. Keep in mind that many many doctors and nurses have an attitude about being forced to take care of people that do not care about them or anyone else...copping an angry belligerent attitude towards the people your life may be depending on isn't very smart. There has to be at least a half dozen little things they are doing that make a difference that nobody would be the wiser if they simply didn't have the time for.

As a hospital administrator, if someone threatened one of the doctors or nurses they would be ejected from the hospital so fast their heads would spin. This is the new face of right wing domestic terrorism...it's being brought to travel and now hospitals.

You think you have some sort of right to be in that hospital, you better think again, because they have rights to decide who makes the cut when they are full up with unvaccinated people.

I will put cool and collected consequences against uncontrolled rage any time.
Angry out of control people are just that, they ar... (show quote)


Why does your vaccine become less effective around unvaccinated people?

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Sep 25, 2021 02:50:39   #
eden
 
woodguru wrote:
Angry out of control people are just that, they are a menace to society...there is no other way to put it. They are losing it over nothing, flipping out on people and hurting them. Knocking an employees teeth out because they asked you to wear a mask?

Airlines are one thing...really? Flip out and attack people because stewards ask you to wear a mask that is was made perfectly clear you would be required to wear? This is behavior that airlines are going to have to start putting air marshalls onboard so that they can effectively end outbursts with whatever force they deem necessary...I'm thinking a million volt zap, and wake up zip tied, and carried off to jail when you arrive at your destination. The penalties need to be extreme enough to just plain make this not worth it. People just want to get where they are going without the drama and entertainment of total frigging idiots.

Now this is boiling over into hospitals...people who for different reasons centered around freedom, ignorance, and political statements, are bringing their special brand of anger and rage to hospitals and the healthcare workers that have nothing to do with whatever has people's panties in such a bunch.

Those who are unvaccinated need to keep a few realities right close to mind that they wouldn't even be there if they had simply gotten vaccinated. Keep in mind that many many doctors and nurses have an attitude about being forced to take care of people that do not care about them or anyone else...copping an angry belligerent attitude towards the people your life may be depending on isn't very smart. There has to be at least a half dozen little things they are doing that make a difference that nobody would be the wiser if they simply didn't have the time for.

As a hospital administrator, if someone threatened one of the doctors or nurses they would be ejected from the hospital so fast their heads would spin. This is the new face of right wing domestic terrorism...it's being brought to travel and now hospitals.

You think you have some sort of right to be in that hospital, you better think again, because they have rights to decide who makes the cut when they are full up with unvaccinated people.

I will put cool and collected consequences against uncontrolled rage any time.
Angry out of control people are just that, they ar... (show quote)



My Bookkeeper had to travel from Hawaii to California recently, a night time flight. All passengers boarded wearing the required masks. The plane backed away from the gate and taxied to the runway and turned into the wind to take off when a commotion broke out 4 rows in front. A woman removed her mask,
and refused to put it back on when instructed by a flight attendant who repeatedly warned of consequences for non compliance. The woman’s clearly audible response was ...”you can’t make me”...
Takeoff was aborted and the plane returned to the gate. Airport Police boarded the plane and forcibly carried the squawking “Karen” off. The door was closed and the Captain appeared at the front of the plane and picked a mic from the wall...”Ladies and Gentlemen we apologize for the delay in departure but rest assured...that woman will never fly on Southwest again”.
The passengers applauded and the flight took off, albeit an hour after the scheduled time.
This unnecessary incident inconvenienced a lot of people and cost money. I hear big fines are being handed out for this kind of thing and I hope the message gets out: If you desire to travel, leave your defiant, rotten, dysfunctional, spoiled little inner brat at home.

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Sep 25, 2021 05:36:31   #
EmilyD
 
eden wrote:
My Bookkeeper had to travel from Hawaii to California recently, a night time flight. All passengers boarded wearing the required masks. The plane backed away from the gate and taxied to the runway and turned into the wind to take off when a commotion broke out 4 rows in front. A woman removed her mask,
and refused to put it back on when instructed by a flight attendant who repeatedly warned of consequences for non compliance. The woman’s clearly audible response was ...”you can’t make me”...
Takeoff was aborted and the plane returned to the gate. Airport Police boarded the plane and forcibly carried the squawking “Karen” off. The door was closed and the Captain appeared at the front of the plane and picked a mic from the wall...”Ladies and Gentlemen we apologize for the delay in departure but rest assured...that woman will never fly on Southwest again”.
The passengers applauded and the flight took off, albeit an hour after the scheduled time.
This unnecessary incident inconvenienced a lot of people and cost money. I hear big fines are being handed out for this kind of thing and I hope the message gets out: If you desire to travel, leave your defiant, rotten, dysfunctional, spoiled little inner brat at home.
My Bookkeeper had to travel from Hawaii to Califor... (show quote)

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Sep 25, 2021 05:39:38   #
EmilyD
 
eden wrote:
My Bookkeeper had to travel from Hawaii to California recently, a night time flight. All passengers boarded wearing the required masks. The plane backed away from the gate and taxied to the runway and turned into the wind to take off when a commotion broke out 4 rows in front. A woman removed her mask,
and refused to put it back on when instructed by a flight attendant who repeatedly warned of consequences for non compliance. The woman’s clearly audible response was ...”you can’t make me”...
Takeoff was aborted and the plane returned to the gate. Airport Police boarded the plane and forcibly carried the squawking “Karen” off. The door was closed and the Captain appeared at the front of the plane and picked a mic from the wall...”Ladies and Gentlemen we apologize for the delay in departure but rest assured...that woman will never fly on Southwest again”.
The passengers applauded and the flight took off, albeit an hour after the scheduled time.
This unnecessary incident inconvenienced a lot of people and cost money. I hear big fines are being handed out for this kind of thing and I hope the message gets out: If you desire to travel, leave your defiant, rotten, dysfunctional, spoiled little inner brat at home.
My Bookkeeper had to travel from Hawaii to Califor... (show quote)

17 WAYS THAT MASKS CAN CAUSE HARM

1. Medical masks adversely affect respiratory physiology and function.
-Masks inhibit air flow into and out of the lungs.
-For people with asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), and many other chronic lung diseases, face masks are intolerable to wear as they worsen breathlessness.
-Medical masks lower blood oxygen and raise carbon dioxide such that respiratory rate and depth of breaths are increased.
-Decreasing oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide in the bloodstream stimulates a compensatory response in the respiratory centers of the brain. These changes in blood gases result in increases in both frequency and depth of breaths.
-As masks Increase both the frequency and depth of respirations (breaths), they increase the likelihood that each respiration will contain a larger amount of infectious viral particles. This may worsen the community transmission of CoVID-19 as infected people wearing masks exhale respiratory plumes loaded with greater levels of infectious viral particles. These infectious plumes readily move around the sides, bottom, and top of masks.
-This may also increase the severity of CoVID-19 as the increased tidal volume delivers the viral particles deeper into the lungs.
-These effects are amplified if face masks are contaminated with the viruses, bacteria, or fungi that find their way or opportunistically grow in the warm, moist environment that medical masks quickly become.

2. Medical masks lower oxygen levels in the blood.
Wearing a mask for more than a few minutes causes a significant reduction in a person’s blood oxygen level (Beder, A., U. Büyükkoçak, H. Sabuncuoğlu, Z. A. Keskil, and S. Keskil. 2008. “Preliminary Report on Surgical Mask Induced Deoxygenation during Major Surgery.” Neurocirugia 19 (2): 121-26. DOI: 10.1016/s1130-1473(08)70235-5)
-This study of 53 surgeons evaluated the effect of surgical masks on oxygen saturation of hemoglobin in surgeons performing surgery. The study revealed the surgeons experienced a significant decrease in the oxygen saturation of arterial pulsations (SpO2) and a slight increase in pulse rates after one hour. The decrease was more prominent in the surgeons over the age of 35. Given that a small decrease in SpO2 reflects a large decrease in partial pressure of oxygen in the arterial blood (PaO2), the findings of this study suggests that surgical masks worn more than one hour may lower arterial oxygen enough to induce physiologically detrimental effects.
-Here are two cases of the tragic consequences of forcing children to wear masks: Two Chinese boys drop dead while wearing face masks during physical exercise classes.
-Two boys from two Chinese cities died of sudden cardiac arrest within a week. The first boy, 15, collapsed after jogging in PE class while wearing a face mask on April 24. The other boy, 14, reportedly died during a running exam while wearing a mask.
-Why would healthy boys drop dead while wearing masks and running in gym class?! To answer this question, we must consider how mask induced deoxygenation and increased oxygen demands of heart muscle during exercise could have precipitated heart attacks in otherwise healthy teenagers:
.....Point #1: Heart muscle needs oxygen to survive. And the harder the heart works, the more oxygen it requires. The American Heart Association says this about heart attacks: "Your heart muscle needs oxygen to survive. A heart attack occurs when the blood flow that brings oxygen to the heart muscle is severely reduced or cut off completely."
.....Point #2: Masks block air intake and decrease arterial oxygen.
-Studies of masked individuals have shown that mask wear decreases arterial oxygen. For example, the effects of surgical masks worn by surgeons in the operating room (an environment in which the oxygen blocking effects of masks are minimized by the high air flow, increased oxygen levels, and cool temperature of the operating suite) during major surgery showed a significant decrease in arterial oxygen. The lesson here is that medical masks should not be worn during intense exercise. As described above and shown in the study of surgeons wearing surgical masks, medical masks block oxygen intake. Depriving the heart of oxygen while exercising, especially intense exercise, could precipitate an acute heart attack.
-Jogger’s lung collapses after he ran for 2.5 miles while wearing a face mask. Mr Zhang’s left lung was punctured due to high pressure caused by running. The 26-year-old became breathless whiling jogging with a mask on in China. Doctors said his punctured lung was caused by jogging with a face covering. He is now in stable condition after undergoing an operation, the hospital said. Hypoxia (low blood oxygen levels) increases the risk of blood clot formation.
-Lowering arterial oxygen suppresses the immune system, thus increasing the susceptibility of mask wearers to infectious disease.

3. Medical masks raise carbon dioxide levels in the blood.
-Although the body has robust mechanisms for mitigating transient and minor elevations of CO2 in the air we breathe, these mechanisms can easily be overwhelmed by chronic exposure to significant elevations in CO2, such as occurs with prolonged wearing of a medical mask. The science clearly demonstrates that face masks cause carbon dioxide rebreathing and hypercapnia (excessive carbon dioxide in the bloodstream). (Fletcher, S. J., M. Clark, and P. J. Stanley. 2006. “Carbon Dioxide Re-Breathing with Close Fitting Face Respirator Masks.” Anaesthesia 61 (9): 910. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2044.2006.04767.x)
-Exhaled air is rich in carbon dioxide, a waste product of cellular respiration. A portion of carbon dioxide previously exhaled is inspired (breathed) at each respiratory cycle. Masks trap CO2 rich respiratory exhalations at the mask-mouth interface, force re-breathing of CO2 rich exhalations, raise carbon dioxide blood (CO2) levels.

Objective evidence demonstrating how masks increase blood carbon dioxide levels and negatively impact health and function.
-Transcranial Ultrasound Doppler (TCUD) is a noninvasive means of assessing blood flow in the cerebral vasculature. The increase in carbon dioxide partial pressures (PCO2) caused by medical masks can be assessed by TCUD.
-Elevation of PCO2 causes vasodilation of the arteriolar channels leading to a decrease in peripheral vascular resistance. The decrease in peripheral vascular resistance is responsible for the changes in cerebrovascular circulation time, CBF, and the velocity of flow (V) in cerebral arteries.
-Medical masks force the wearer to inspire (re-breathe) air that is a mix of air from the local environment and the respiratory waste products from the mask wearer’s previous exhalations. (a)Respiratory exhalations contain significantly higher levels of carbon dioxide (CO2), one of the waste products of respiration. (b)The pulmonary system is designed to collect oxygen and remove CO2 from the body. (c)Masks trap CO2 rich exhalations at the mask-mouth interface. (d)Changes in arterial PCO2 considerably influence cranial blood flow (CBF).
-Transcranial Ultrasound Doppler (TCUD) studies on masked and unmasked individuals demonstrate the changes in blood flow in the brain the result from the arterial CO2 elevation that occurs within seconds of donning a mask.

4. SARS CoV-2 is armed with a “furin cleavage site” that makes it more pathogenic.
-The furin cleavage site makes the virus more capable of invading human cells.
-The furin cleavage site makes the virus even more capable of invading cells when arterial oxygen levels decline.
[bTherefore, wearing a medical mask may increase the severity of CoVID-19.[/b]

5. Medical masks trap exhaled viral (and other) pathogens in the mouth/mask interspace, increase viral/infectious load, and increase the severity of disease.
-Face masks trap exhaled viral particles in the mouth/mask interspace. The trapped viral particles are prevented from removal from the airways. The mask wearer is then forced to re-breathe the viral particles, thus increasing infectious viral particles in the airways and lungs. In this way, surgical masks cause self-inoculation, increase viral load, and increase the severity of disease.
-Neurosurgeon, Russell Blaylock, MD, raises additional concerns: “By wearing a mask, the exhaled viruses will not be able to escape and will concentrate in the nasal passages, enter the lungs, olfactory nerves, and travel into the brain.”
-Face masks trap exhaled viral particles in the mouth/mask interspace. The trapped viral particles are prevented from removal from the airways. The mask wearer is thus forced to re-breathe the viral particles, increasing infectious viral particles in the airways and lungs. In this way, Medical masks cause self-inoculation, increase viral load, and increase the severity of disease.
-Asymptomatic or mild cases of CoVID-19 become more severe when the infected is masked, oxygen lowers, viral load increases from particle re-breathing, and the disease overwhelms the innate immune system.
-The main purpose of the innate immune response is to immediately prevent the spread and movement of foreign pathogens throughout the body. The innate immune system plays a crucial role in destroying the virus, preventing infection, or decreasing the viral load to decrease the severity of infection. The innate immunity’s effectiveness is highly dependent on the viral load. If face masks increase viral particle re-breathing at the same time they create a humid habitat where SARS-CoV-2 remains actively infectious, the mask increases the viral load and can overwhelm the innate immune system. This trapping, re-breathing, and increasing pathogen load delivered to the lungs becomes dramatically more dangerous when the medical mask becomes contaminated with the opportunistic viruses, bacteria, and fungi that can grow in the warm, moist environment of the mask.

6. SARS CoV-2 Becomes More Dangerous When Blood Oxygen Levels Decline.
-Arterial oxygen desaturation is a critical issue in CoVID-19. The virus’ ability to infect cells is markedly enhanced by oxygen desaturation, which has been shown to occur even in the ideal operating room environment in which surgeons operate: high air flow/exchange systems, cool temperature, and higher room oxygen levels. when wearing a surgical mask.
-One of the features that make SARS CoV-2 uniquely infectious is the “furin” sequence in the virus that activates increased ACE2 receptor attack and cellular invasion in low oxygen environments.

7. The furin cleavage site of SARS CoV-2 increases cellular invasion, especially during hypoxia (low blood oxygen levels)
-The furin cleavage site found in SARS CoV-2 is the likely result of the bioengineering “gain of function” (which means increasing the virulence of a pathogen) research conducted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. This unethical, dangerous, and illegal-in-most-countries research is alleged to have been funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci (with $7.4 million taxpayer dollars) and Bill Gates.
-Furin cleavage sites are found in some of the most pathogenic forms of influenza, which can be acted upon by furin and other cellular proteases. The ubiquitous expression of cellular proteases across cell types increases the potential for the virus to successfully infiltrate the host.
-Furin is a membrane-bound protease that is expressed in multiple tissues throughout the human body. Furin is expressed in significant concentrations in the lungs. Thus, viruses in the respiratory tract can make use of this enzyme to convert and activate their own surface glycoproteins. This makes their role in viral protein processing noteworthy.
-Some of the most pathogenic forms of influenza and HIV have similar furin cleavage sites. It is not present in other bat beta coronaviruses. (By the way, Fauci built his career researching and failing to create a vaccine for HIV). The furin cleavage site is NOT present in SARS CoV-1 or MERS, or any of the other known “bat coronaviruses.” Again, the SARS-CoV (aka, SARS-CoV-1), which is closely related to the newest SARS-CoV-2 strain, does not bear the furin cleavage site.

So, the question we should all be asking is how did the genetic sequence that codes for this serious gain of function that increases the potential for the virus to successfully infiltrate the host find its way into SARS-CoV-2? That’s the trillion dollar question; it demands a real and honest answer.

8. Cloth masks may increase the risk of contracting Covid-19 and other respiratory infections.
-See MacIntyre CR, Seale H, Dung TC, et al., A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers, BMJ Open 2015; 5: e006577, US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health, doi: 10.1136/bmjopen-2014-006577, April 22, 2015. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/pdf/bmjopen-2014-006577.pdf .
-“This study is the first [Randomly Controlled Trial] of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection.”

https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/MasksAreHarmful-Meehan2020.html

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Sep 25, 2021 05:46:51   #
EmilyD
 
eden wrote:
My Bookkeeper had to travel from Hawaii to California recently, a night time flight. All passengers boarded wearing the required masks. The plane backed away from the gate and taxied to the runway and turned into the wind to take off when a commotion broke out 4 rows in front. A woman removed her mask,
and refused to put it back on when instructed by a flight attendant who repeatedly warned of consequences for non compliance. The woman’s clearly audible response was ...”you can’t make me”...
Takeoff was aborted and the plane returned to the gate. Airport Police boarded the plane and forcibly carried the squawking “Karen” off. The door was closed and the Captain appeared at the front of the plane and picked a mic from the wall...”Ladies and Gentlemen we apologize for the delay in departure but rest assured...that woman will never fly on Southwest again”.
The passengers applauded and the flight took off, albeit an hour after the scheduled time.
This unnecessary incident inconvenienced a lot of people and cost money. I hear big fines are being handed out for this kind of thing and I hope the message gets out: If you desire to travel, leave your defiant, rotten, dysfunctional, spoiled little inner brat at home.
My Bookkeeper had to travel from Hawaii to Califor... (show quote)

(....Continued from prior post)

9. Wearing a face mask may give a false sense of security
-People adopt a reduction in compliance with other infection control measures, including social distancing and hands washing.

10. Masks compromise communications and reduce social distancing.
-The quality and volume of speech between two people wearing masks is considerably compromised and they may unconsciously move closer to improve communications. This increases the likelihood of becoming exposed to the infectious viral particles in the respiratory plumes of aerosolized droplet nuclei that escape the top, bottom, and sides of the masks.

11. Untrained and inappropriate management of face masks:
-The public is untrained and inadequately educated in the proper selection of masks (most are wrongly wearing cloth masks), proper wear, sterility management, and importance of not reusing single use masks.
-People must not touch their masks, must change their single-use masks frequently or wash them regularly, dispose of them correctly and adopt other management measures, otherwise their risks and those of others may increase.

12. Masks Worn Imperfectly Are Dangerous.
-To fully appreciate the danger of improper wear and handling of face masks, all you have to do is observe how the public is managing them. Take a trip to Walmart or your local school and observe how mask wearers pull masks from their pocket or purse, drop the masks on the floor, cough and sneeze in them, move them below the nose, on their heads, or under their chin. I see it every day. I also see their soiled and stained surgical face masks and know that these people are dangerously reusing a mask that should never be reused.
-When mask-wearers manage to don a fresh, sterile mask properly, keep them on for more than a few minutes at a time, they very quickly contaminate the mask, their environment, and increase their risk of infection as the mask induces them to compulsively touch their faces and their masks.
-The World Health Organization, which has repeatedly changed its position on universal masking, is adamant that if face masks are not worn carefully, correctly, and kept sanitary, they are worse than ineffective. In other words, masks worn imperfectly are dangerous. (See Linda Lacina, WHO updates guidance on masks for health workers and the public - here’s what you need to know, World Economic Forum (June 5, 2020). https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/who-updates-guidance-on-masks-heres-what-to-know-now/
-People can infect themselves if they use contaminated hands to adjust a mask or repeatedly take it on or off,” explained WHO Director-General, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. “I cannot say this clearly enough. Masks alone will not protect you from COVID-19.”
-Failing to follow strict medical standards for wearing protective equipment and specification of sterilizing and cleaning often leads to “skin and mucous membrane injury, which may cause acute and chronic dermatitis, secondary infection and aggravation of underlying skin diseases.” (Yan, et al., Consensus of Chinese Experts on Protection of Skin and Mucous Membrane Barrier for Health-Care Workers Fighting against Coronavirus Disease 2019. Dermatologic Therapy, March 2020, e13310. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7228211/pdf/DTH-9999-e13310.pd)

13. Masks collect and colonize viruses, bacteria, and mold.
-In Germany, where schools are open and masks are mostly optional, the association of “Kinder f.Weltfrieden eV” commissioned a laboratory analysis to investigate the level of microbial contamination that results after a fresh mask is worn by a child for 6-8 hours in school. What they found was alarming to all those recommending we mask our children for several hours every day. The masks were found to be contaminated with 82 bacterial colonies and 4 mold colonies. Where do you think the bacteria, molds, and viruses progressively colonizing and growing on the warm moist mask-mouth interface end up? Many of the microbes get transferred to surfaces the child (or adult) touches after they touch, fiddle, and mishandle their mask. This is one of the many reasons that masks are almost certainly INCREASING the transmission of infectious disease. More dangerously, these microbes are being inhaled and delivered deep into the lungs where respiratory disease far worse than CoVID-19 can result.
-The oxygen lowering effects of masks forces the body to compensate by increasing heart rate and deepening inspirations (increasing tidal volumes). Increased tidal volumes drives the mask pathogens deep into the lungs where they can cause serious pneumonia, inflammation, and tissue damage. Furthermore, these risks are compounded by the immune suppression (CD4+ T-cell suppression) that results from diminished arterial oxygenation. Thus, the mask-wearing child is at imminent risk for harm caused by lung infections that are far more dangerous than a CoVID-19 infection. In fact, based on reports from my colleagues in emergency medicine, pulmonology, and infectious disease, an alarming explosion in bacterial pneumonias is being reported at ERs and urgent care centers across the country.

Evidence that supports the points above:
(1) Zhiqing, Liu, Chang Yongyun, Chu Wenxiang, Yan Mengning, Mao Yuanqing, Zhu Zhenan, Wu Haishan, et al. 2018. “Surgical Masks as Source of Bacterial Contamination during Operative Procedures.” Journal of Orthopaedic Translation 14 (July): 57-62.
-This study investigated whether surgical masks (SMs) could be a potential source of bacterial shedding leading to an increased risk of surgical site infection.
-Results: The longer the operating time the more bacterial colonization occurred. A significant increase [in bacterial counts] was noted in the 2-hour group.
(2) Colleen Huber, NMD, “Masks Are Neither Effective nor Safe,” PrimaryDoctor.Org, July 6, 2020. https://www.primarydoctor.org/masks-not-effect
-“The foregoing data show that masks serve more as instruments of obstruction of normal breathing, rather than as effective barriers to pathogens. Therefore, masks should not be used by the general public, either by adults or children, and their limitations as prophylaxis against pathogens should also be considered in medical settings.”
-Dr. Huber’s article cites 42 supporting scientific studies.
(3) “Dr. Jenny Harries, England’s deputy chief medical officer, has warned that it was not a good idea for the public to wear face masks as the virus can get trapped in the material and causes infection when the wearer breathes in.”
(4) Angela Betsaida B. Laguipo, BSN, “Reusing Masks May Increase Your Risk of Coronavirus Infection, Expert Says,” News, Medical, Life Sciences, March 15, 2020. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200315/Reusing-masks-may-increase-your-risk-of-coronavirus-infection-expert-says.aspx
*****See also, Melkorka Licea, “Mask Mouth” Is a Seriously Stinky Side Effect of Wearing Masks. New York Post, August 5, 2020. https://nypost.com/2020/08/05/mask-mouth-is-a-seriously-stinky-side-effect-of-wearing-masks/
-Consider this: Health department investigating after high number of strep throat cases reported at Shepherd schools. The Central Michigan District Health Department is investigating after more than a dozen cases of strep throat were reported within Shepherd Public Schools despite COVID-19 protocols.

14. Wearing a face mask makes the exhaled air (respiratory plumes) go into the eyes.
-Masks may capture respiratory jets and large respiratory droplets, but they cannot prevent the respiratory plumes composed of aerosolizable respiratory droplet nuclei to escape the top, bottom, and sides of the masks.
-The respiratory plume wafts into the eyes and generates an uncomfortable feeling and compulsion to touch and rub the eyes. If your hands are contaminated and you touch or rub your eyes, you are transmitting and infecting yourself through the ocular mucosa.


15. Contact tracing studies show that asymptomatic carrier transmission is very rare.
-Asymptomatic carriers are not a major driver of the disease. Therefore, one of the key reasons the public was told to wear masks, asymptomatic spreaders, should not be used as a reason for community wearing of masks.

16. Face masks and stay at home orders prevent the development of herd immunity.
-Only herd immunity can prevent pandemics; it is the only thing that ever has.
-Only herd immunity will protect the vulnerable members of society.
-Sweden’s example continues to prove this point.

17. Face masks are dangerous and contraindicated for a large number of people with pre-existing medical conditions and disabilities.
-Large percentages of the population have medical conditions that make wearing a mask dangerous. Individuals should be examined by a medical professional to ensure that mask wear will not further compromise their medical condition.
-Children with asthma (7.5% of American children) and other respiratory disabilities are being harmed by mask mandates, they are being discriminated against by businesses, schools, and public spaces that require masks.
-Children with autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders are extremely prone to agitation and severe anxiety that results from the adverse effects, e.g., oxygen lowering effects, of masks.
-An ever increasing number of children and young adults with autism are sensitive to touch and texture.[R] Covering the nose and mouth with fabric can cause sensory overload, feelings of panic, and extreme anxiety.
-If a person with a disability is not able to wear a face mask, state and local government agencies and private businesses must consider reasonable modifications to a face mask policy so that the person with the disability can participate in, or benefit from, the programs offered or goods and services that are provided. A reasonable modification means changing policies, practices, and procedures, if needed, to provide goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations to an individual with a disability.
-Examples of a person with a disability who might not be able to wear a face mask include individuals with asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), or other respiratory disabilities may not be able to wear a face mask because of difficulty in or impaired breathing. People with respiratory disabilities should consult their own medical professional for advice about using face masks.
-The CDC also states that anyone who has trouble breathing should not wear a face mask.[R]
-People with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), severe anxiety, or claustrophobia (an abnormal fear of being in enclosed or narrow places), may feel afraid or terrified when wearing a face mask. These individuals may not be able to stay calm or function when wearing a face mask.
-A person who has cerebral palsy may have difficulty moving the small muscles in the hands, wrists, or fingers. Due to their limited mobility, they may not be able to tie the strings or put the elastic loops of a face mask over the ears. This means that the individual may not be able to put on or remove a face mask without assistance.
-A person who uses mouth control devices such as a sip and puff to operate a wheelchair or assistive technology, or uses their mouth or tongue to use assistive ventilators will be unable to wear a mask.

https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/MasksAreHarmful-Meehan2020.html

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Sep 25, 2021 06:07:38   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
EmilyD wrote:
17 WAYS THAT MASKS CAN CAUSE HARM

1. Medical masks adversely affect respiratory physiology and function.
-Masks inhibit air flow into and out of the lungs.
-For people with asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), and many other chronic lung diseases, face masks are intolerable to wear as they worsen breathlessness.
-Medical masks lower blood oxygen and raise carbon dioxide such that respiratory rate and depth of breaths are increased.
-Decreasing oxygen and increasing carbon dioxide in the bloodstream stimulates a compensatory response in the respiratory centers of the brain. These changes in blood gases result in increases in both frequency and depth of breaths.
-As masks Increase both the frequency and depth of respirations (breaths), they increase the likelihood that each respiration will contain a larger amount of infectious viral particles. This may worsen the community transmission of CoVID-19 as infected people wearing masks exhale respiratory plumes loaded with greater levels of infectious viral particles. These infectious plumes readily move around the sides, bottom, and top of masks.
-This may also increase the severity of CoVID-19 as the increased tidal volume delivers the viral particles deeper into the lungs.
-These effects are amplified if face masks are contaminated with the viruses, bacteria, or fungi that find their way or opportunistically grow in the warm, moist environment that medical masks quickly become.

2. Medical masks lower oxygen levels in the blood.
Wearing a mask for more than a few minutes causes a significant reduction in a person’s blood oxygen level (Beder, A., U. Büyükkoçak, H. Sabuncuoğlu, Z. A. Keskil, and S. Keskil. 2008. “Preliminary Report on Surgical Mask Induced Deoxygenation during Major Surgery.” Neurocirugia 19 (2): 121-26. DOI: 10.1016/s1130-1473(08)70235-5)
-This study of 53 surgeons evaluated the effect of surgical masks on oxygen saturation of hemoglobin in surgeons performing surgery. The study revealed the surgeons experienced a significant decrease in the oxygen saturation of arterial pulsations (SpO2) and a slight increase in pulse rates after one hour. The decrease was more prominent in the surgeons over the age of 35. Given that a small decrease in SpO2 reflects a large decrease in partial pressure of oxygen in the arterial blood (PaO2), the findings of this study suggests that surgical masks worn more than one hour may lower arterial oxygen enough to induce physiologically detrimental effects.
-Here are two cases of the tragic consequences of forcing children to wear masks: Two Chinese boys drop dead while wearing face masks during physical exercise classes.
-Two boys from two Chinese cities died of sudden cardiac arrest within a week. The first boy, 15, collapsed after jogging in PE class while wearing a face mask on April 24. The other boy, 14, reportedly died during a running exam while wearing a mask.
-Why would healthy boys drop dead while wearing masks and running in gym class?! To answer this question, we must consider how mask induced deoxygenation and increased oxygen demands of heart muscle during exercise could have precipitated heart attacks in otherwise healthy teenagers:
.....Point #1: Heart muscle needs oxygen to survive. And the harder the heart works, the more oxygen it requires. The American Heart Association says this about heart attacks: "Your heart muscle needs oxygen to survive. A heart attack occurs when the blood flow that brings oxygen to the heart muscle is severely reduced or cut off completely."
.....Point #2: Masks block air intake and decrease arterial oxygen.
-Studies of masked individuals have shown that mask wear decreases arterial oxygen. For example, the effects of surgical masks worn by surgeons in the operating room (an environment in which the oxygen blocking effects of masks are minimized by the high air flow, increased oxygen levels, and cool temperature of the operating suite) during major surgery showed a significant decrease in arterial oxygen. The lesson here is that medical masks should not be worn during intense exercise. As described above and shown in the study of surgeons wearing surgical masks, medical masks block oxygen intake. Depriving the heart of oxygen while exercising, especially intense exercise, could precipitate an acute heart attack.
-Jogger’s lung collapses after he ran for 2.5 miles while wearing a face mask. Mr Zhang’s left lung was punctured due to high pressure caused by running. The 26-year-old became breathless whiling jogging with a mask on in China. Doctors said his punctured lung was caused by jogging with a face covering. He is now in stable condition after undergoing an operation, the hospital said. Hypoxia (low blood oxygen levels) increases the risk of blood clot formation.
-Lowering arterial oxygen suppresses the immune system, thus increasing the susceptibility of mask wearers to infectious disease.

3. Medical masks raise carbon dioxide levels in the blood.
-Although the body has robust mechanisms for mitigating transient and minor elevations of CO2 in the air we breathe, these mechanisms can easily be overwhelmed by chronic exposure to significant elevations in CO2, such as occurs with prolonged wearing of a medical mask. The science clearly demonstrates that face masks cause carbon dioxide rebreathing and hypercapnia (excessive carbon dioxide in the bloodstream). (Fletcher, S. J., M. Clark, and P. J. Stanley. 2006. “Carbon Dioxide Re-Breathing with Close Fitting Face Respirator Masks.” Anaesthesia 61 (9): 910. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2044.2006.04767.x)
-Exhaled air is rich in carbon dioxide, a waste product of cellular respiration. A portion of carbon dioxide previously exhaled is inspired (breathed) at each respiratory cycle. Masks trap CO2 rich respiratory exhalations at the mask-mouth interface, force re-breathing of CO2 rich exhalations, raise carbon dioxide blood (CO2) levels.

Objective evidence demonstrating how masks increase blood carbon dioxide levels and negatively impact health and function.
-Transcranial Ultrasound Doppler (TCUD) is a noninvasive means of assessing blood flow in the cerebral vasculature. The increase in carbon dioxide partial pressures (PCO2) caused by medical masks can be assessed by TCUD.
-Elevation of PCO2 causes vasodilation of the arteriolar channels leading to a decrease in peripheral vascular resistance. The decrease in peripheral vascular resistance is responsible for the changes in cerebrovascular circulation time, CBF, and the velocity of flow (V) in cerebral arteries.
-Medical masks force the wearer to inspire (re-breathe) air that is a mix of air from the local environment and the respiratory waste products from the mask wearer’s previous exhalations. (a)Respiratory exhalations contain significantly higher levels of carbon dioxide (CO2), one of the waste products of respiration. (b)The pulmonary system is designed to collect oxygen and remove CO2 from the body. (c)Masks trap CO2 rich exhalations at the mask-mouth interface. (d)Changes in arterial PCO2 considerably influence cranial blood flow (CBF).
-Transcranial Ultrasound Doppler (TCUD) studies on masked and unmasked individuals demonstrate the changes in blood flow in the brain the result from the arterial CO2 elevation that occurs within seconds of donning a mask.

4. SARS CoV-2 is armed with a “furin cleavage site” that makes it more pathogenic.
-The furin cleavage site makes the virus more capable of invading human cells.
-The furin cleavage site makes the virus even more capable of invading cells when arterial oxygen levels decline.
[bTherefore, wearing a medical mask may increase the severity of CoVID-19.[/b]

5. Medical masks trap exhaled viral (and other) pathogens in the mouth/mask interspace, increase viral/infectious load, and increase the severity of disease.
-Face masks trap exhaled viral particles in the mouth/mask interspace. The trapped viral particles are prevented from removal from the airways. The mask wearer is then forced to re-breathe the viral particles, thus increasing infectious viral particles in the airways and lungs. In this way, surgical masks cause self-inoculation, increase viral load, and increase the severity of disease.
-Neurosurgeon, Russell Blaylock, MD, raises additional concerns: “By wearing a mask, the exhaled viruses will not be able to escape and will concentrate in the nasal passages, enter the lungs, olfactory nerves, and travel into the brain.”
-Face masks trap exhaled viral particles in the mouth/mask interspace. The trapped viral particles are prevented from removal from the airways. The mask wearer is thus forced to re-breathe the viral particles, increasing infectious viral particles in the airways and lungs. In this way, Medical masks cause self-inoculation, increase viral load, and increase the severity of disease.
-Asymptomatic or mild cases of CoVID-19 become more severe when the infected is masked, oxygen lowers, viral load increases from particle re-breathing, and the disease overwhelms the innate immune system.
-The main purpose of the innate immune response is to immediately prevent the spread and movement of foreign pathogens throughout the body. The innate immune system plays a crucial role in destroying the virus, preventing infection, or decreasing the viral load to decrease the severity of infection. The innate immunity’s effectiveness is highly dependent on the viral load. If face masks increase viral particle re-breathing at the same time they create a humid habitat where SARS-CoV-2 remains actively infectious, the mask increases the viral load and can overwhelm the innate immune system. This trapping, re-breathing, and increasing pathogen load delivered to the lungs becomes dramatically more dangerous when the medical mask becomes contaminated with the opportunistic viruses, bacteria, and fungi that can grow in the warm, moist environment of the mask.

6. SARS CoV-2 Becomes More Dangerous When Blood Oxygen Levels Decline.
-Arterial oxygen desaturation is a critical issue in CoVID-19. The virus’ ability to infect cells is markedly enhanced by oxygen desaturation, which has been shown to occur even in the ideal operating room environment in which surgeons operate: high air flow/exchange systems, cool temperature, and higher room oxygen levels. when wearing a surgical mask.
-One of the features that make SARS CoV-2 uniquely infectious is the “furin” sequence in the virus that activates increased ACE2 receptor attack and cellular invasion in low oxygen environments.

7. The furin cleavage site of SARS CoV-2 increases cellular invasion, especially during hypoxia (low blood oxygen levels)
-The furin cleavage site found in SARS CoV-2 is the likely result of the bioengineering “gain of function” (which means increasing the virulence of a pathogen) research conducted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. This unethical, dangerous, and illegal-in-most-countries research is alleged to have been funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci (with $7.4 million taxpayer dollars) and Bill Gates.
-Furin cleavage sites are found in some of the most pathogenic forms of influenza, which can be acted upon by furin and other cellular proteases. The ubiquitous expression of cellular proteases across cell types increases the potential for the virus to successfully infiltrate the host.
-Furin is a membrane-bound protease that is expressed in multiple tissues throughout the human body. Furin is expressed in significant concentrations in the lungs. Thus, viruses in the respiratory tract can make use of this enzyme to convert and activate their own surface glycoproteins. This makes their role in viral protein processing noteworthy.
-Some of the most pathogenic forms of influenza and HIV have similar furin cleavage sites. It is not present in other bat beta coronaviruses. (By the way, Fauci built his career researching and failing to create a vaccine for HIV). The furin cleavage site is NOT present in SARS CoV-1 or MERS, or any of the other known “bat coronaviruses.” Again, the SARS-CoV (aka, SARS-CoV-1), which is closely related to the newest SARS-CoV-2 strain, does not bear the furin cleavage site.

So, the question we should all be asking is how did the genetic sequence that codes for this serious gain of function that increases the potential for the virus to successfully infiltrate the host find its way into SARS-CoV-2? That’s the trillion dollar question; it demands a real and honest answer.

8. Cloth masks may increase the risk of contracting Covid-19 and other respiratory infections.
-See MacIntyre CR, Seale H, Dung TC, et al., A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers, BMJ Open 2015; 5: e006577, US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health, doi: 10.1136/bmjopen-2014-006577, April 22, 2015. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/pdf/bmjopen-2014-006577.pdf .
-“This study is the first [Randomly Controlled Trial] of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection.”
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Good informative post. The only things missing is oxygen poor blood or carbon dioxide rich blood in children can make them sleepy as many teachers are reporting. The other thing , a study of women who wore masks all day at work while pregnant had babies with lower IQs and had trouble learning.

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Sep 25, 2021 06:28:55   #
EmilyD
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Good informative post. The only things missing is oxygen poor blood or carbon dioxide rich blood in children can make them sleepy as many teachers are reporting. The other thing , a study of women who wore masks all day at work while pregnant had babies with lower IQs and had trouble learning.


Good points!

I wonder why Covid only hangs around restaurant doorways, but not the tables?

And why are Congress, illegals, The White House staff and people who party at the Obama's exempt from wearing them?

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Sep 25, 2021 06:48:20   #
America 1
 
woodguru wrote:
Is that an excuse for flipping out on a person who asks you to put a mask on...what was that?


If you are vaccinated, why are you giving this big sob story over masks?
Most people will wear a mask when asked.
How about controlling your anger and rage.
Every f'in day beating a dead horse.
At this point, you are for the jab and mask or you are not.

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Sep 25, 2021 07:14:23   #
eden
 
EmilyD wrote:
Good points!

I wonder why Covid only hangs around restaurant doorways, but not the tables?

And why are Congress, illegals, The White House staff and people who party at the Obama's exempt from wearing them?


Perhaps you could call Southwest and bore them into changing their policy with all this defiant claptrap. The point of my story is that by buying a ticket for this flight and knowing full well ahead of time what the flight rules were, this woman demanded an exception for herself at a moment when she thought the pilot could not turn back and she could get away with it. She ended up sitting in the empty airport all night, had to buy another ticket on another airline, forced to wear a mask for that flight anyway plus faces criminal charges for endangerment.
Too bad, so sad.

On the door of my business establishment I have a sign explaining my company policy with masks. It concludes with bold print:
NO MASK - NO ENTRY

I support your right to choose no mask, but I also support my right to deny entry to you based on my view (and the collective view of my staff) that going maskless in indoor spaces is reckless and ill advised.

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Sep 25, 2021 07:19:28   #
eden
 
America 1 wrote:
If you are vaccinated, why are you giving this big sob story over masks?
Most people will wear a mask when asked.
How about controlling your anger and rage.
Every f'in day beating a dead horse.
At this point, you are for the jab and mask or you are not.


I believe his point is that low impulse control “air rage” is dangerous to your fellow passengers.

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Sep 25, 2021 07:46:04   #
America 1
 
eden wrote:
I believe his point is that low impulse control “air rage” is dangerous to your fellow passengers.


Many do have mental problems and it seems the numbers are increasing.
And if you board an aircraft with a mask requirement and don't comply it's a mental issue.

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