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There is only one word for Anti-vaxxers: inhumane
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Sep 25, 2021 21:37:53   #
rumitoid
 
Jlw wrote:
Weird


Okay, and....

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Sep 25, 2021 21:38:41   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
It's OCD....


Maybe.

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Sep 25, 2021 21:45:01   #
rumitoid
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Like the Swine flu shot?
Goggle and look back at the commercials our government had on TV and they are scary identical to the "Covid vaccine " commercials of today.
"There safe" "Do your part and get vaccinated Today" same pic's, with sleeves rolled up, needle in the arm....Safe.
You know what happened with "The Safe, Swine Flu Vaccine ", Right?
It amazes me that when the inventor of "MNRA" says "MNRA is not yet advanced for use in humans or vaccines but I'm shunned because I don't want to believe the same government that said the Swine flu vaccine was safe?
Hear about the recent published paper, peer reviewed in the New England Journal of Medicine? Early results of those with Autoimmune disease have a 90% higher risk of hospitalizations "If They Received The Vaccine "!!
Why are the vaccinated in the highest vaccinated state in the US, have the highest rate of positive test for covid?
Why is the number one nation on earth, with the highest percentage of its population vaccinated, having the highest positive test for covid??(Israel)

Shame on you for your attitude towards anyone, not wanting to trust blindly our corrupt government and an untested "Vaccine " that is making drug companies and individuals, Billionaires.
Like the Swine flu shot? br Goggle and look back ... (show quote)


Hoho. Where on earth (and I would like to know.) did you get "Why is the number one nation on earth, with the highest percentage of its population vaccinated, having the highest positive test for covid??"

Because of Anti-vaxxers. Duh!

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Sep 25, 2021 22:00:25   #
rumitoid
 
America 1 wrote:
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Words: It’s easy to watch out for their words. Do they speak in extremes most of the time, such as all-or-nothing terms?
Are people either all good or all bad in their eyes?
Or winners or losers?
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How to Quickly Spot High-Conflict People br High-c... (show quote)


Excellent post. Something to seriously consider. I am a "Devil's Advocate" person: nothing I hold as true and believe as universal is always cross-examined almost like a prisoner. I take all as a lie and look to disprove it. This does not make me perfectly wise. The mind is very tricky. I may have some unknown firmly planted biases in my thoughts from where ever. Though I may feel this Devil's Advocate process helps me glean the Truth, I still may be diluted.

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Sep 25, 2021 22:04:40   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
rumitoid wrote:
Excellent post. Something to seriously consider. I am a "Devil's Advocate" person: nothing I hold as true and believe as universal is always cross-examined almost like a prisoner. I take all as a lie and look to disprove it. This does not make me perfectly wise. The mind is very tricky. I may have some unknown firmly planted biases in my thoughts from where ever. Though I may feel this Devil's Advocate process helps me glean the Truth, I still may be diluted.


Diluted or deluded?

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Sep 25, 2021 22:09:54   #
rumitoid
 
billy a wrote:
I'll label it common sense. Let's take street-drugs as an example. Yes, I know they shouldn't be taken in the first place, but humor me. People buy and consume these drugs [ fentanyl ] hoping for a certain result [ getting high ] knowing the dangers of consuming pills made in somebody's basement, by people who couldn't mix a glass of Kool-Aid. Why would ANYBODY take this chance ? In the twelve months leading up to may, 2020, 81,000 people took this drug and died. Graveyard dead. I don't have all the facts on these covid "cures", and as time goes by there is mounting evidence that there is a dark side to their efficacy, and the motives for dispursing so hastily an un-proven potion into the populace. The current mis-administration CERTAINLY hasn't given me any confidence as to their motives. No thank you, I'll pass.
And as an aside, the term "Greater Good" was thrown around by hitler, lenin,stalin,pol pot and other murderous tyrants throughout history. We conservatives know this to be a tool of social-control, so do yourself a favor and eliminate it from your political vocabulary.
I'll label it common sense. Let's take street-drug... (show quote)


Thoughtful response. Thank you. The Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved and found to be very effective in fighting the severe effects of the virus and letting people live through it. Sounds good to me.

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Sep 25, 2021 22:12:25   #
rumitoid
 
microphor wrote:
Back at you Rumi-no concern for people with medical conditions, adverse reactions, isolation or the fear that Kamala made sure they had last year. Where's you're compassion for them, why aren't you screaming about the thousands of un vaccinated illegals just released "intentionally" into our country by Biden admin? This vaccinated freedom lover is sick of hearing the hypocrisy!


Good points. What they are aiming at is confusing.

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Sep 25, 2021 22:27:28   #
rumitoid
 
microphor wrote:
I do remember that the last administration had managed to stop most of the fentanyl crossing the border, the numbers are back up. Understand that addicts are sick people who are easily manipulated. Fentanyl can be found in most street drugs today. Why is the border open? Why are we not protecting Americans from illicit drugs and other criminal behaviors that cross the border? Why are illegals being placed in a place of importance over the well being of Americans?


Mid 19th century: "Irish need not apply." That was a sign in many shop windows thanks to White Anglo Saxon Protestants, what are known as WASPS. Vicious stings. The Irish were coming over from a decimating potato famine that killed more than a million citizens of starvation and the Bloody Brits did nothing. My family snuck in through Canada. 1850. Speaking English really helped. Acceptance was pretty quick. By the time my dad came around in 1960 to work for the city, the Irish were nothing unusual.

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Sep 25, 2021 23:24:35   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
rumitoid wrote:
When you boil it down to essentials like we did in the olden days--without all the present whiny, psychological BS, where right was right and wrong was wrong--their outrageous behavior was more than just reprehensible--it was unimaginable! Anyone over fifty should know that. Their behavior is not American. It's just plain disturbing and dangerous. No love or care for the common good: what else can you label it?

Careful is a word that comes to mind. In the "olden days" our government wouldn't try pawning off a fake vaccine . If they said it was a vaccine it was. And it worked. This ain't and it don't. Together with all the lies and misinformation why should we trust it or the government? When a healthy person has a good chance of recovery without hospitalization compared to a good chance of serious side effects and very little benefit , it's a no brainer. Count me out thanks

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Sep 25, 2021 23:45:25   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
microphor wrote:
I do remember that the last administration had managed to stop most of the fentanyl crossing the border, the numbers are back up. Understand that addicts are sick people who are easily manipulated. Fentanyl can be found in most street drugs today. Why is the border open? Why are we not protecting Americans from illicit drugs and other criminal behaviors that cross the border? Why are illegals being placed in a place of importance over the well being of Americans?


Money. someone is getting paid to leave the boarder as is. The cartels are rich. They can afford to buy senators. el Chapo mentioned this at his trial a few years ago. Nothing has changed except some of the players. The cartels own the south American avocado industry . And citrus. perfect cover for transporting drugs. But human cargo they have to bring in under the wall or through the cracks. They even cought them in a big submarine off the coast. Big money operations. They are paying to keep our boarders open. The question is to who? Pelosi? Clintons? I don't have the answers but if our DOJ and FBI weren't corrupt they could get to the bottom of it real quick

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Sep 25, 2021 23:53:37   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
rumitoid wrote:
Hoho. Where on earth (and I would like to know.) did you get "Why is the number one nation on earth, with the highest percentage of its population vaccinated, having the highest positive test for covid??"

Because of Anti-vaxxers. Duh!


Hahaha ya right. why doesn't your vaccine work around unvaccinated people? Does it really work at all? They claim it loses strength after 4 months. maybe less .Ever hear of another vaccine like that? Doesn't protect you from getting covid . Doesn't stop you from spreading Covid . Doesn't work around unvaccinated people. How can it be called a vaccine?

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Sep 26, 2021 01:52:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
When you boil it down to essentials like we did in the olden days--without all the present whiny, psychological BS, where right was right and wrong was wrong--their outrageous behavior was more than just reprehensible--it was unimaginable! Anyone over fifty should know that. Their behavior is not American. It's just plain disturbing and dangerous. No love or care for the common good: what else can you label it?
In case you weren't aware, right has always been right and wrong has always been wrong,

Problem is the people who are totally confused about whether right is wrong or wrong is right. Or vice versa.

If we didn't know what is right, how would we ever know what is wrong? And, vice versa.

The term "Anti-vaxxers" is ambiguous and has implications in what the term means.

What is your definition of an "Anti-vaxxer"?

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Sep 26, 2021 02:02:40   #
microphor
 
rumitoid wrote:
When you boil it down to essentials like we did in the olden days--without all the present whiny, psychological BS, where right was right and wrong was wrong--their outrageous behavior was more than just reprehensible--it was unimaginable! Anyone over fifty should know that. Their behavior is not American. It's just plain disturbing and dangerous. No love or care for the common good: what else can you label it?

Kinda as uncaring as Bidens flooding the country with unvaccinated Haitians, leaving Americans and allies behind in a terrorist ran country, blowing up 7 little kids, destroying jobs in the fuel industry, using 9/11 for a photo opt, covering up for pervert son, creating fear of vaccine in minorities, lying about your failed plans and blaming others, false accusations against your border agents "more political ops",- could go on forever, after all its been a whole 10 months!

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