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Sep 26, 2021 18:16:10   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/trump-greatest-e******n-disaster-2020-389712


And, of course, ANYthing Politico's l*****t wing nuts say you will repeat as proven and factual t***h....even extreme slanted opinions.
If they said Trump 's second cousin's roommates blind brother swears that Trump has '666' tattooed on his left butt cheek, you would state it on OPP as a proven fact, and find some way to embellish it.
As I've said before.....you have NO credibility left.

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Sep 26, 2021 20:14:39   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2tszIXno2Q8


A slippery surface.

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Sep 27, 2021 06:53:06   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
RandyBrian wrote:
And, of course, ANYthing Politico's l*****t wing nuts say you will repeat as proven and factual t***h....even extreme slanted opinions.
If they said Trump 's second cousin's roommates blind brother swears that Trump has '666' tattooed on his left butt cheek, you would state it on OPP as a proven fact, and find some way to embellish it.
As I've said before.....you have NO credibility left.


I thought Politico was now on your list of trusted sources. Huh.
Anyway, you said balderdash to the statement that Trump had questioned the integrity of the e******n before it was even held. All you have to do is google 'trump predicts e******n f***d' and you will get a whole lotta results.

Someone who denies the obvious as much as you is in no position to judge anyone else's credibility. Pfffft.

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Sep 27, 2021 08:29:11   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
I thought Politico was now on your list of trusted sources. Huh.
Anyway, you said balderdash to the statement that Trump had questioned the integrity of the e******n before it was even held. All you have to do is google 'trump predicts e******n f***d' and you will get a whole lotta results.

Someone who denies the obvious as much as you is in no position to judge anyone else's credibility. Pfffft.


Hey, friend. I think we've had a bit of miscommunications....a good part of it my fault. Somehow, I had the wrong idea that the politico link was posted by moldyoldy, and my remarks about Politico and credibility were aimed at him. Not you.
I humbly and sincerely apologize. I did not mean to proclaim balderdash about Trump predicting e******n f***d. He absolutely did. My comment was aimed at the notion that this is a republican "go to" strategy, and not something that Trump and others sincerely believe.
Anyway, I'm sorry. Please feel free to deal me wh**ever lumps you feel I deserve, and I will take them.

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Sep 27, 2021 09:36:39   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Hey, friend. I think we've had a bit of miscommunications....a good part of it my fault. Somehow, I had the wrong idea that the politico link was posted by moldyoldy, and my remarks about Politico and credibility were aimed at him. Not you.
I humbly and sincerely apologize. I did not mean to proclaim balderdash about Trump predicting e******n f***d. He absolutely did. My comment was aimed at the notion that this is a republican "go to" strategy, and not something that Trump and others sincerely believe.
Anyway, I'm sorry. Please feel free to deal me wh**ever lumps you feel I deserve, and I will take them.
Hey, friend. I think we've had a bit of miscommun... (show quote)


Balderdash!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/22/us/how-charges-of-v**er-fraud-became-a-political-strategy.amp.html


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/republicans-are-settling-on-a-strategy-for-e******n-losses-it-was-r****d/amp

Republicans’ New Go-To Strategy Is Claiming E******n F***d
https://level.medium.com/amp/p/b0d9eed91285

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Sep 27, 2021 10:33:45   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 


Okay, Moldy, you have just successfully proved that you are not the only one who repeatedly spouts silly left wing balderdash. It can go right there on the same list that all republicans are deplorables, all republicans h**e the working man, all republicans are r****t, and Donald Trump lied 30,000 times in the past four years.

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Sep 27, 2021 11:32:22   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 


By the way, and this is changing the subject. You make a regular habit of claiming the rich do not pay their fair share. Here is some interesting figures:
Consider, too, Biden’s endless refrain that the wealthy and big corporations "don’t pay their fair share." He never provides any proof of this populist talking point, because he cannot.
The Tax Foundation reports that, in 2018, the latest year for which such data is available, "The top 1% paid a greater share of individual income taxes (40.1%) than the bottom 90% combined (28.6%)." That seems a "fair share."
On Sept. 16, Biden questioned, "How is it possible for millionaires and billionaires that can pay a lower rate of tax than teachers, firefighters or law enforcement officers?"
Reality: the top 1% of taxpayers paid a 25.4% average individual income tax rate, more than seven times the rate paid by taxpayers in the bottom 50% (3.4%).
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-lying-taxes-inflation-dems-spending-v**ers-liz-peek
Pay close attention to the last line of the quote above. It does NOT say 7X the AMOUNT.....it says 7X the RATE. That means that a worker making $20,000/year paid $680. But a millionaire who earned 2,000,000/year had to pay $508,000! That is 747 times the amount paid by the worker.
Given these factual numbers, which are from our government, do you still stand by your opinion that the rich are not paying their fair share? If so, please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion.

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Sep 27, 2021 11:34:42   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
By the way, and this is changing the subject. You make a regular habit of claiming the rich do not pay their fair share. Here is some interesting figures:
Consider, too, Biden’s endless refrain that the wealthy and big corporations "don’t pay their fair share." He never provides any proof of this populist talking point, because he cannot.
The Tax Foundation reports that, in 2018, the latest year for which such data is available, "The top 1% paid a greater share of individual income taxes (40.1%) than the bottom 90% combined (28.6%)." That seems a "fair share."
On Sept. 16, Biden questioned, "How is it possible for millionaires and billionaires that can pay a lower rate of tax than teachers, firefighters or law enforcement officers?"
Reality: the top 1% of taxpayers paid a 25.4% average individual income tax rate, more than seven times the rate paid by taxpayers in the bottom 50% (3.4%).
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-lying-taxes-inflation-dems-spending-v**ers-liz-peek
Pay close attention to the last line of the quote above. It does NOT say 7X the AMOUNT.....it says 7X the RATE. That means that a worker making $20,000/year paid $680. But a millionaire who earned 2,000,000/year had to pay $508,000! That is 747 times the amount paid by the worker.
Given these factual numbers, which are from our government, do you still stand by your opinion that the rich are not paying their fair share? If so, please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion.
By the way, and this is changing the subject. You... (show quote)



Of course fox facts are not facts at all.


https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax/amp

Richest Americans pay almost no income taxes
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270069

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Sep 27, 2021 11:39:18   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Of course fox facts are not facts at all.


You are wimping out. The article is published on Fox, but it was written by Liz Peek using 2018 numbers, the latest available. My question to you stands.

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Sep 27, 2021 11:40:53   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You are wimping out. The article is published on Fox, but it was written by Liz Peek using 2018 numbers, the latest available. My question to you stands.


My answer was updated

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Sep 27, 2021 11:57:09   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
My answer was updated


I have to assume you simply believe what you believe because you want to believe it.
Okay. You can do that.

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Sep 27, 2021 12:07:07   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I have to assume you simply believe what you believe because you want to believe it.
Okay. You can do that.


Not just me.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax/amp

Richest Americans pay almost no income taxes
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270069
moldyoldy

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Sep 27, 2021 13:22:03   #
bylm1-Bernie
 


If you believe that is true, you should take it up with Congress, after all, they passed wh**ever laws made those so-called unfair tax rates possible. Unless, of course, it was done the way Biden is pulling things off these days -all unconstitutional.

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Sep 27, 2021 13:46:16   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 


I notice three things. First, all of this is admittedly unverified and unproven. Two, you posted two links, but they are both referring to the same article. And three, if it IS proven true, then each and everyone of them should be investigated for tax fraud. The question THEN becomes, was their actions legal?
But that is not the point. These examples do not alter the fact that, AS A GROUP, the rich are paying far and away the lions share of taxes, and that fact is not altered by specific individuals mistakes and/or crimes.
Do you have anything to show that the rich, as a group, are NOT paying over 25% of their income into income tax?

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Sep 27, 2021 13:55:23   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I notice three things. First, all of this is admittedly unverified and unproven. Two, you posted two links, but they are both referring to the same article. And three, if it IS proven true, then each and everyone of them should be investigated for tax fraud. The question THEN becomes, was their actions legal?
But that is not the point. These examples do not alter the fact that, AS A GROUP, the rich are paying far and away the lions share of taxes, and that fact is not altered by specific individuals mistakes and/or crimes.
Do you have anything to show that the rich, as a group, are NOT paying over 25% of their income into income tax?
I notice three things. First, all of this is admi... (show quote)



The rich may pay more money but a hundred dollars to them is peanuts, when a hundred dollars to a peon is life and death.

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