JW wrote:
Our interaction is getting too stretched out so forgive me if I miss a salient point. It's difficult to find one in the jungle of irrelevant verbiage you let flow.
Point #1, the issue is electing the President, not establishing Congress. Your history lesson is misdirected and irrelevant. Read Federalist Paper 68. It explains why the e*******l college was established by those who established it.
I'm not talking about establishing Congress. I *AM* talking about electing the President.
I *have* read #68 and I KNOW why the EC was established. In fact I stated what that reason was...
Here's what I wrote...
"there's nothing wrong with the EC itself, which is another design by the founders, the purpose of which is to provide surrogate v**ers in place of the representatives themselves during p**********l e******ns to avoid corruption.What part of this is so confusing for you? I can't make it any clearer than that JW - you just need to read what people are writing instead of reacting to what you THINK they are writing.
JW wrote:
br Point #2, anyone who would choose to live in a... (
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Well, I'm trying not laugh here. You are waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy off.
You even provided a link to a Bing search that provides more of the same definitions that I've been using, which are nothing like what you are describing.
I mean, here you are, talking about our e******n system while denying that we're a democracy... E******n systems don't exist outside a democracy! That *IS* the very definition of what a democracy is! If you have an e******n system, you ARE a democracy! Democracy is not a specific "ism", it's a broad category, so a democracy might not be direct (which is how some people are *trying* to redefine democracy) it could also an indirect or representative democracy, which is what WE are.
Some democracies don't might not even work very well and some seem to be more for show... but the definition of democracy is any system where citizens v**e. It *IS* that simple.
We ALSO just happen to be a republic, another broad category that covers any variety of government led by an elected president, which by itself would not be possible for a system that is NOT also a democracy because if you're not a democracy you can't elect a president!
JW wrote:
Point #3, I'll look into your link on the lawsuit and get back to you, thank you.
Added: Trump didn't make the request, the Justice dept. did. It was a legal maneuver to absolve Trump of the defense costs since the litigant's accusation was part of a political campaign. The article makes a remarkable claim: that a President is not entitled to the same shield as accorded all other elected officials.
I don't see that anywhere in the article I referenced. Are you looking at something different?
As for the request... which one? Trump's legal team *did* request a delay in the proceedings while they try to negotiate whether or not the United States of America can stand trial for what Trump said instead of himself. Are you referring to an excuse for negotiating that switch?