1alpha7

If you truly trust in God, you wouldn't trust the Vatican and their p*******e/homosexual ring. If they had listened and prayed to God through Christ only, this most likely would not have occurred. Mary is not the mediary to the Father, Christ is and any Pope who denies that is worthy of a p*******e/homosexual governing body that exists throughout the Catholic & Protestant Churches today! Praying before statues, paintings & other images is idol worship and it angers God. Pray to God in spirit, not in images. If you pray before images, you're praying to that image. May God Bless and keep you!

Look where we are:
Mat_24:37  For as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Luk_17:26  Just as it was in the days of Noah, so too it will be in the days of the Son of Man.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Looks like a personal problem.

Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

You may be surprised to hear that I agree with almost everything you wrote here!

The exception is that "if you pray before an image, you are praying to that image ".

Devout Catholics know that Jesus is Truly and Substantially Present, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Eucharist. When I pray kneeling before Jesus during Mass I am close to the Source and Summit of my very life. And I experience it in a very profound way.


But if I pray in my office, where there is a small painting of Jesus on the window sill, I know that the image is only paper and chemicals, it has no life. No love. I could crumple it up and throw it away without consequence. There is a photo of my wife there too, but I don't love it.

As for the saints and images or relics of them, they are not prayed "to" but rather we ask the saints to pray with us and for us to the Lord our God. And if there is an image we know that it contains no power or love. It has no divine properties. It could be thrown into the trash with no consequence whatsoever.

As a former Protestant I am always quick to point out this common misconception of "praying to a saint" and how it's a source of scandal to the Catholic Church. The saints are our brothers and sisters in heaven and as in any good family God loves to see His children work together to help someone. It's fine to ask a saint for prayer, no different than for me to ask my friend for prayers. The saints are not divine, they do not answer prayers, they just walk with us as we take our prayers to the Lord. They may help us if we stumble or can't find the words.

And you are absolutely right to say that Mary is not the mediator between God and man. Jesus Christ is the Way, the T***h and the Life and no one comes to the Father but through Him.

Mary is, however, exalted above the rest of mankind and the saints because she was chosen by God to be worthy to be the Mother of Jesus. She is without sin and full of Grace, loving Jesus as only His Mother can, and when we ask her to pray for us we know what the answer will be- "do wh**ever He tells you". We could just ask Jesus but can you imagine how He rejoices in our child-like humility, to go ask mom first? Is this not the order of obedience in a good human family, or in a royal court, to bring, with the greatest courtesy, our petition before the Queen, trusting that She is Advised by the King?

Peace be with you 1alpha7.

Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

It definitely is! Who do you trust Bad Bob?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

I have different degrees of trust. Doctors and scientist 99% to fundamentalist preachers and D.Trump 0%.

DASHY

I guess even God gets to change his mind about the v*****es.

1alpha7

True, Mary is/has been the most exalted woman on Earth. She is the Earthly Mother of Christ, Lord of Heaven & Earth.

When I pray, I see Jesus (whose new name isn't known to us in the present). His Love & Kindness flow from His Spirit and, during this time of such evil and distress, He completely comforts me in spirit. To me, No other can take His Place in my Life. No other has His Authority. There is no Medium between Christ and myself nor Christ and His followers.

We are sinful people. We make images of things that impress us and place them where they can be seen or found. Can you imagine kissing the feet or any part of a statue. That is worship.

We ask others to pray for us, but we don't pray to them to pray for us. There is a great difference.
You act as if you should give me excuses and examples... Not to me, to Christ alone! I do not have the authority to absolve your inner conflicts. I do not meddle in your personal life nor do I request such.

May The Love of God & the Peace of Christ fill your heart!

Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

It may depend on the individual. Some are helped by the v*****e, some are harmed. Only God can know beforehand, to rejoice or to feel sorrow for His beloved child. ❤

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Who are harmed by the v*****e?

1alpha7

Who is Harmed by the v*****e? Due to privacy laws, no names are allowed to be given:

As of September 1, 2021, V***S has received 1,404 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received the C****-** v*****e. Most cases have been reported after m**A C****-** v******tion (P****r-BioNTech or M*****a), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 817 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis.

More than 375 million doses of C****-** v*****es were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 7, 2021. During this time, V***S received 7,439 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a C****-** v*****e.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Sad it may be, but the operation/construction of V***S make it very easy to distort the real data and/or fill in false data.. does not make it useless but anyone searching must bear that in mind.. That is, the reporters themselves make the data unreliable..

https://theconversation.com/unverified-reports-of-v*****e-side-effects-in-v***s-arent-the-smoking-guns-portrayed-by-right-wing-media-outlets-they-can-offer-insight-into-v*****e-hesitancy-166401

Unverified reports of v*****e side effects in V***S aren’t the smoking guns portrayed by right-wing media outlets – they can offer insight into v*****e hesitancy
August 25, 2021 8.27am EDT

Chances are you may not be not familiar with the V*****e A*****e E***t Reporting System, or V***S. Co-managed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, V***S was established in 1990 to detect possible safety problems with v*****es.

Unfortunately, the anti-v*****e movement has used this once-obscure database to spread misinformation about the C****-** v*****e.

V***S is ripe for exploitation because it relies on unverified self-reports of side effects. Anyone who received a v*****e can submit a report. And because this information is publicly available, misinterpretations of its data has been used to amplify C****-** misinformation through dubious social media channels and mass media, including one of the most popular shows on cable news.

We are political scientists who study the social, political and psychological underpinnings of v*****e hesitancy in the U.S. In our recently published research, we argue that V***S, despite its limitations, can teach us about more than just v*****e side effects – it can also offer powerful new insights into the origins of v*****e hesitancy in the U.S.

Because V***S claims are self-reported, they tell us something about what ordinary people, as opposed to doctors and medical researchers, think about v*****e safety. In other words, people who feel that a v*****e is responsible for a side effect they might be experiencing can log that concern with the federal government, whether or not those claims would stand scrutiny in rigorous clinical testing.



Consequently, V***S reports might not only document people’s negative experiences with v******tion, but also their attitudes toward v******tion. People may be more likely to report side effects, for example, in response to media stories about v*****e safety concerns. If reports to V***S increase following these stories, then the reporting system may be functioning similarly to a public opinion poll. It could reflect, in part, public attentiveness to and concern about potential side effects. To see if this is the case, we examined a well-known case of v*****e misinformation: the since-retracted paper that claimed a link between the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) v*****e to childhood autism.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

V***S received 7,439 reports of death (0.0020%) BFD

V***S is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences to CDC and FDA. V***S is not designed to determine if a v*****e caused a health problem, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of a*****e e***t reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a v*****e. This way, V***S can provide CDC and FDA with valuable information that additional work and evaluation is necessary to further assess a possible safety concern.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

These guys will never be real Americans.. I love blowing them out of the water with facts.. Good one!!!

1alpha7

There is a listing of C****-** V******ted persons being hospitalized as well as c****-** v******ted deaths. You'll have to scroll down to find the chart. This chart comes from hospitals willing to report their c***d information by individual States. Of course, some States refuse to report c***d deaths.
But either way, many 'individuals have been harmed from the v******tion', which is the norm for any v******tion."

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/c****-**-v*****e-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/
Enjoy!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

This seems to be good data.. I am surprised.. and disappointed that my state, Minnesota provided no data.

Would have hoped that all rates were lower the 1-2% but it all seems well put together.. while I have not even heard of anyone I know being a brake threw case.. a buddy did get the Flu after being v******ted.. so I know well that no v******tion is 100%. at least none that I have heard of..

good information, thanks..