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Aug 22, 2021 19:20:47   #
rumitoid
 
In Spirit, we each possess nothing. Nothing of real or lasting value can be owned or even rented by us. And I am not just talking about material possessions. There is also the severe problems of Beliefs. We do not own the mind for it.

We do not possess virtue. We do not possess power. We do not by a wide stretch possess Truth. We do not possess rights. We do not possess love.

We do not even possess consciousness, if surrendered to Spirit and Grace. We are, we are meant to be, a part of the consciousness, the mind of Christ. Christ is love and we were all meant to be a nexus of love.

This is the radical nature of Grace.

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Aug 23, 2021 08:05:50   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
In Spirit, we each possess nothing. Nothing of real or lasting value can be owned or even rented by us. And I am not just talking about material possessions. There is also the severe problems of Beliefs. We do not own the mind for it.

We do not possess virtue. We do not possess power. We do not by a wide stretch possess Truth. We do not possess rights. We do not possess love.

We do not even possess consciousness, if surrendered to Spirit and Grace. We are, we are meant to be, a part of the consciousness, the mind of Christ. Christ is love and we were all meant to be a nexus of love.

This is the radical nature of Grace.
In Spirit, we each possess nothing. Nothing of rea... (show quote)


Yes, Rumi, those who have accepted Jesus as their Savior through faith in His birth, death, and resurrection, have found Truth! The Word is truth and is found in the Bible. Your theology that love is all that matters is not Biblical!


How can I have the mind of Christ?

ANSWER

In 1 Corinthians 2:16, Paul quotes Isaiah 40:13 and then makes a statement concerning all believers: “We have the mind of Christ.” Having the mind of Christ means sharing the plan, purpose, and perspective of Christ, and it is something that all believers possess.

Having the mind of Christ means we understand God’s plan in the world—to bring glory to Himself, restore creation to its original splendor, and provide salvation for sinners. It means we identify with Christ’s purpose “to seek and to save what was lost” (Luke 19:10). It means we share Jesus’ perspective of humility and obedience (Philippians 2:5-8), compassion (Matthew 9:36), and prayerful dependence on God (Luke 5:16).

In the verses leading up to 1 Corinthians 2:16, we note some truths concerning the mind of Christ:

1) The mind of Christ stands in sharp contrast to the wisdom of man (verses 5-6).

2) The mind of Christ involves wisdom from God, once hidden but now revealed (verse 7).

3) The mind of Christ is given to believers through the Spirit of God (verses 10-12).

4) The mind of Christ cannot be understood by those without the Spirit (verse 14).

5) The mind of Christ gives believers discernment in spiritual matters (verse 15).

In order to have the mind of Christ, one must first have saving faith in Christ (John 1:12; 1 John 5:12). After salvation, the believer lives a life under God’s influence. The Holy Spirit indwells and enlightens the believer, infusing him with wisdom—the mind of Christ. The believer bears a responsibility to yield to the Spirit’s leading (Ephesians 4:30) and to allow the Spirit to transform and renew his mind (Romans 12:1-2).

https://www.gotquestions.org/mind-of-Christ.html

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Aug 23, 2021 16:41:04   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
Yes, Rumi, those who have accepted Jesus as their Savior through faith in His birth, death, and resurrection, have found Truth! The Word is truth and is found in the Bible. Your theology that love is all that matters is not Biblical!


How can I have the mind of Christ?

ANSWER

In 1 Corinthians 2:16, Paul quotes Isaiah 40:13 and then makes a statement concerning all believers: “We have the mind of Christ.” Having the mind of Christ means sharing the plan, purpose, and perspective of Christ, and it is something that all believers possess.

Having the mind of Christ means we understand God’s plan in the world—to bring glory to Himself, restore creation to its original splendor, and provide salvation for sinners. It means we identify with Christ’s purpose “to seek and to save what was lost” (Luke 19:10). It means we share Jesus’ perspective of humility and obedience (Philippians 2:5-8), compassion (Matthew 9:36), and prayerful dependence on God (Luke 5:16).

In the verses leading up to 1 Corinthians 2:16, we note some truths concerning the mind of Christ:

1) The mind of Christ stands in sharp contrast to the wisdom of man (verses 5-6).

2) The mind of Christ involves wisdom from God, once hidden but now revealed (verse 7).

3) The mind of Christ is given to believers through the Spirit of God (verses 10-12).

4) The mind of Christ cannot be understood by those without the Spirit (verse 14).

5) The mind of Christ gives believers discernment in spiritual matters (verse 15).

In order to have the mind of Christ, one must first have saving faith in Christ (John 1:12; 1 John 5:12). After salvation, the believer lives a life under God’s influence. The Holy Spirit indwells and enlightens the believer, infusing him with wisdom—the mind of Christ. The believer bears a responsibility to yield to the Spirit’s leading (Ephesians 4:30) and to allow the Spirit to transform and renew his mind (Romans 12:1-2).

https://www.gotquestions.org/mind-of-Christ.html
Yes, Rumi, those who have accepted Jesus as their ... (show quote)


Thank you for supporting Scripture validating my point. A surprise backing.

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Aug 23, 2021 18:39:30   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thank you for supporting Scripture validating my point. A surprise backing.


Reread the entire statement. I didn’t agree with you! You never mention salvation! You will not have Spirit or Grace without it!

How is a person saved, Rumi?

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Aug 23, 2021 21:52:34   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
Reread the entire statement. I didn’t agree with you! You never mention salvation! You will not have Spirit or Grace without it!

How is a person saved, Rumi?


Sorry, but you are pathetically pedantic. Look deeper.

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Aug 24, 2021 08:44:11   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sorry, but you are pathetically pedantic. Look deeper.


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The word didactic generally means "designed to teach," but it is often used in a negative way to describe boring or annoying lessons, or the people who teach them. While didactic can have a neutral meaning, pedantic is almost always an insult. It typically describes an irritating person who is eager to correct small errors others make, or who wants everyone to know just how much of an expert they are, especially in some narrow or boring subject matter.
Is pedantic an insult?

Pedantic is an insulting word used to describe someone who annoys others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor details, or emphasizing their own expertise especially in some narrow or boring subject matter.
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A pedantic person may do lots of annoying things, such as point out minor errors, correct people who make small mistakes, and brag about their own knowledge and expertise. Miriam Webster website!



Rumi, What an interesting choice of words to insult me! LOL! Instead of engaging in a discussion you have chosen to insult me……….as USUAL! You have whined for years that other members never engage in an actual discussion with you! Here’s you chance! LOL!

As the pedantic person that I am, I have pointed out your “minor” error of ignoring the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that afforded each of us to be saved if we confess our sins and accept what and who He is! Faith!

I know what I believe and why and have presented scriptural proof! Can you?

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Aug 25, 2021 12:50:28   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sorry, but you are pathetically pedantic. Look deeper.


Why do you always avoid the question? Have you ever been broken by your sin?

The hyper grace movement you espouse is not biblical. Plenty of scripture is this topic to show it isn’t -

The Christian, Sanctification and the Growing Hyper Grace/Antinomianism Movement
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-167861-1.html

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Aug 25, 2021 22:07:04   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Why do you always avoid the question? Have you ever been broken by your sin?

The hyper grace movement you espouse is not biblical. Plenty of scripture is this topic to show it isn’t -

The Christian, Sanctification and the Growing Hyper Grace/Antinomianism Movement
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-167861-1.html


Yes, sleep is better. The fear of radical grace has overwhelmed Spirit in the Church.

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Aug 26, 2021 07:51:42   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Yes, sleep is better. The fear of radical grace has overwhelmed Spirit in the Church.


No fear. The hyper grace movement is not biblical. Its in your best interest to see why.

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Aug 26, 2021 10:08:39   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
Yes, sleep is better. The fear of radical grace has overwhelmed Spirit in the Church.


Is this radical Grace going to save you? Why are you avoiding answering my question? Are you going to spend eternity with our Savior Jesus Christ?

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Aug 26, 2021 18:00:52   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
Is this radical Grace going to save you? Why are you avoiding answering my question? Are you going to spend eternity with our Savior Jesus Christ?


No, radical grace is not going to save me, Christ is--by the extraordinary gift of radical grace given by Spirit. All belief is mere prelude but often just a barrier to great and loving faith. Get your nose out of Scriptures "to live and move and have your being in Christ." (Acts 17:28)

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Aug 26, 2021 18:07:26   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
No, radical grace is not going to save me, Christ is--by the extraordinary gift of radical grace given by Spirit. All belief is mere prelude but often just a barrier to great and loving faith. Get your nose out of Scriptures "to live and move and have your being in Christ." (Acts 17:28)


Thats not how one is saved. And your version of what it means to be saved isn’t biblical. Belief is a barrier? That is so far off the mark.

Being in Christ...you really don’t know what that means

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Aug 26, 2021 18:40:15   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Thats not how one is saved. And your version of what it means to be saved isn’t biblical. Belief is a barrier? That is so far off the mark.

Being in Christ...you really don’t know what that means


I never for a moment expected you to understand how I see things, yet this is just how I see things. Never claimed it as Truth.

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Aug 26, 2021 21:43:22   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
No, radical grace is not going to save me, Christ is--by the extraordinary gift of radical grace given by Spirit. All belief is mere prelude but often just a barrier to great and loving faith. Get your nose out of Scriptures "to live and move and have your being in Christ." (Acts 17:28)


You tell me to get my nose out of scriptures, but you just quoted scripture! And that scripture did not state anything about being saved!



Tell me, how does one attain this radical grace that you claim to have found! How did you know when you received it? If you don’t use scriptures in order to prove your theology, what do you use? Did you have a spiritual leader to guide you? I don’t know, it seems like you just pulled this out of your imagination! 🤷🏻‍♀️

How are you sure of your Salvation?

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Aug 26, 2021 21:50:45   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
I never for a moment expected you to understand how I see things, yet this is just how I see things. Never claimed it as Truth.


Fair enough

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