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Curious, what are some thoughts on the outter limits joy ride?
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Jul 21, 2021 09:53:45   #
Cuda2020
 
Let's try and not make this a party issue, just some thoughts.

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Jul 21, 2021 10:00:40   #
microphor
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
Let's try and not make this a party issue, just some thoughts.


I think it's great. This may open the door to things we can't even imagine for our future as humans. This man can afford to do this, he didn't ask me or other tax payers to pay for it, good for him. As far as politics, we are not on the same page but that doesn't mean I don't support any legal, financial endeavors he chooses to pursue and spend his money on.

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Jul 21, 2021 10:28:14   #
Cuda2020
 
microphor wrote:
I think it's great. This may open the door to things we can't even imagine for our future as humans. This man can afford to do this, he didn't ask me or other tax payers to pay for it, good for him. As far as politics, we are not on the same page but that doesn't mean I don't support any legal, financial endeavors he chooses to pursue and spend his money on.


This is true everyone has the right to spend their money any way they wish. What did you think of his comment on sending industry to outer space in order to preserve the earth? You think that's the way to go?

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Jul 21, 2021 11:36:05   #
moldyoldy
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
This is true everyone has the right to spend their money any way they wish. What did you think of his comment on sending industry to outer space in order to preserve the earth? You think that's the way to go?


We won’t be around to see industries in space, but I think that could help with climate changes. But finding habitable planets should also be a priority.

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Jul 21, 2021 11:44:13   #
microphor
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
This is true everyone has the right to spend their money any way they wish. What did you think of his comment on sending industry to outer space in order to preserve the earth? You think that's the way to go?


I haven't explored enough to have a real opinion on it yet. But it is something to think about seriously

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Jul 21, 2021 11:49:17   #
Rose42
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
This is true everyone has the right to spend their money any way they wish. What did you think of his comment on sending industry to outer space in order to preserve the earth? You think that's the way to go?


Is there a specific article you have in mind?

I will have to look this up

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Jul 21, 2021 12:04:56   #
son of witless
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
Let's try and not make this a party issue, just some thoughts.


I think it is great when a rich American can spend $ 6 Billion to take himself and 3 of his friends on a 10 minute joy ride. That was mighty White of him, and his friends. Now if I had $ 6 Billion laying around that I didn't know what to do with, I might feed the hungry, promote World Peace, support Racial Justice, or buy a Texas ranch stocked with White Tail deer and take 3 of my closest friends on a hunt.

That is what is great about Capitalist AmeriKa. The rich can spend their ill gotten gains anyway they want, and even Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Occasio-Cortez can't stop them.

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Jul 21, 2021 12:06:28   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
Let's try and not make this a party issue, just some thoughts.


The rich so-an-so should be spending on the real problems that face the U.S.

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Jul 21, 2021 12:07:58   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
son of witless wrote:
I think it is great when a rich American can spend $ 6 Billion to take himself and 3 of his friends on a 10 minute joy ride. That was mighty White of him, and his friends. Now if I had $ 6 Billion laying around that I didn't know what to do with, I might feed the hungry, promote World Peace, support Racial Justice, or buy a Texas ranch stocked with White Tail deer and take 3 of my closest friends on a hunt.

That is what is great about Capitalist AmeriKa. The rich can spend their ill gotten gains anyway they want, and even Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Occasio-Cortez can't stop them.
I think it is great when a rich American can spend... (show quote)




My sentiments too.

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Jul 21, 2021 12:39:18   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: the Frozen Tundra
 
son of witless wrote:
I think it is great when a rich American can spend $ 6 Billion to take himself and 3 of his friends on a 10 minute joy ride. That was mighty White of him, and his friends. Now if I had $ 6 Billion laying around that I didn't know what to do with, I might feed the hungry, promote World Peace, support Racial Justice, or buy a Texas ranch stocked with White Tail deer and take 3 of my closest friends on a hunt.

That is what is great about Capitalist AmeriKa. The rich can spend their ill gotten gains anyway they want, and even Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Occasio-Cortez can't stop them.
I think it is great when a rich American can spend... (show quote)


We already have programs to help the poor, sick and downtrodden. We do not however have a viable space program run by NASA any longer. They have become just another government boondoggle.

Russia and China have governments that realize the critical need for a robust presence in space. If we are to maintain our dominance in space it will be by the efforts of visionaries like Besos, Branson, Musk and others that see the big picture.

We must not allow Russia and China to control the military, industrial, economic and social high ground of space, the moon and Mars! 🚀🛸

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Jul 21, 2021 12:42:19   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Michael Rich wrote:
The rich so-an-so should be spending on the real problems that face the U.S.


If you don't think other countries racing to establish a base on the Moon, Mars, and elsewhere, is not an existential threat to America, then what is.?

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Jul 21, 2021 12:45:03   #
Cuda2020
 
moldyoldy wrote:
We won’t be around to see industries in space, but I think that could help with climate changes. But finding habitable planets should also be a priority.


I think what should be the priority is cleaning up the disgracefully mess we are leaving the planet in, Even the animals know not to $h*+ where you eat and sleep. Funny, I thought we were the intelligent species.

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Jul 21, 2021 12:46:09   #
kemmer
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
Let's try and not make this a party issue, just some thoughts.

Funny cartoon in The Week;
Scientists announce good news and bad news. Good news: They have confirmed alien spacecraft.
Bad News: They are just rich narcissistic aliens with more money than they know what to do with, out for a joyride.

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Jul 21, 2021 12:48:37   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
This is true everyone has the right to spend their money any way they wish. What did you think of his comment on sending industry to outer space in order to preserve the earth? You think that's the way to go?


Here is an interesting perspective.
How much is Bozo's being funded surreptitiously by the US?

Sir Richard Branson Should Pay His Own Way Into Space Instead Of Robbing New Mexicans
JULY 21, 2021 By Patrick Brenner
The world is in awe that billionaire Sir Richard Branson has finally accomplished his 17-year goal of achieving spaceflight. On July 11, 2021, Virgin Galactic’s spaceship Unity reached 53.5 miles above the Earth with a crew including Branson. They spent a few minutes in zero gravity and returned safely to the runway of Spaceport America near the small town of Truth or Consequences, New Mexico. Congratulations!

The international scene is abuzz with this latest and undeniably impressive addition to Branson’s resume: but at what cost? Branson launched his flight from Spaceport America, a project initially conceived as early as 1992 when the Southwest Space Task Force was formed to develop and advance New Mexico’s space industry. The project received seed funding through a taxpayer-approved initiative in April 2007 when voters in Doña Ana County approved the spaceport tax.

Almost every year since supporters of Spaceport America have announced the “upcoming launch” from their facility or the need for additional tax dollars to expand the Spaceport and its capabilities. To bolster their claims for additional tax money, Spaceport America commissioned a study by the consulting firm Moss Adams of Albuquerque. The study made headlines with the implausible claim that Spaceport America began producing net benefits for New Mexico as early as 2013.

In March 2020, the Rio Grande Foundation tallied up the total costs to taxpayers, determining that New Mexicans have borne a total project cost of $275 million, while revenues approach only $54.3 million for the state over the last 12 years. The vast majority of taxpayer-funded spending is related to capital projects and nearly $10 million in operational expenditures. In fact, new information shows New Mexico shelled out an additional $1.5 million in advertising expenses related to the Virgin Galactic flight.

Branson is already a billionaire. Why are New Mexico’s politicians lining the pockets of these already wealthy and successful entrepreneurs through taxpayer-funded, industry-specific subsidies? The impact of corporate welfare disproportionately affects the economically disadvantaged, especially in impoverished communities like Doña Ana County and New Mexico as a whole.

In 2019, the state suffered from one of the highest poverty rates in the nation. The impact of the coronavirus pandemic and the corresponding economic lockdown of the past 15 months has certainly exacerbated our financial woes.

In fact, New Mexico trails the southwest in employment recovery. A recent report by WalletHub highlights the state’s 620 percent increase in unemployment claims, referring to the change in the number of initial unemployment insurance claims in the week of July 5, 2021, compared to the week of July 8, 2019. How can a state in this state afford to help send a billionaire to space?

Sir Richard Branson is now an astronaut. But from my perspective as a New Mexican and taxpayer, he sure seems like a wild-west robber baron, holding up taxpayer stagecoaches of the poorest state in the country to fulfill his personal vendetta of beating fellow billionaires Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk in the billionaire space race. He’s “Six-Gun” Branson, a 21st-century robber baron, a stark reminder of our 19th-century industrial past.

In the end, his mission was accomplished. But Six-Gun Branson has only proven that he can launch his spacecraft from any airport with sufficient runway length. I’d hazard a guess that soon he’ll be riding off into the sunset while my fellow New Mexicans are left holding the $275 million bag.

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Jul 21, 2021 12:48:46   #
Cuda2020
 
Rose42 wrote:
Is there a specific article you have in mind?

I will have to look this up


Bezos made the comment in his interview yesterday after they landed.

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