keepuphope Loc: Idaho

I'm thankful everyday that I live in a small conservitive town surrounded by other conservitive towns in Idaho.Beautiful country.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

this is a good artcle,addresses a number of the whys.. starts with Louisville KY..

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/us/protests-lawsuits-arrests.html

Why Charges Against Protesters Are Being Dismissed by the Thousands
Prosecutors declined to pursue many of the cases because they concluded the protesters were exercising their basic civil rights.


Prosecutors called the scale of both the mass arrests and mass dismissals within a few short months unrivaled, at least since the civil rights protests of the early 1960s. With the police detaining hundreds of people in major cities, the arrests this year ended up colliding with the limitations of the court system.

In the aftermath, prosecutors declined to pursue many of the cases because they concluded that the protesters were exercising their basic civil rights. Cases involving free speech or free assembly rarely succeed in court, according to prosecutors across the country, and the c****av***s p******c also played a role in the decision. A wave of thousands of minor cases threatened to capsize courts already floundering under hefty lockdown backlogs.

There was also the recognition that law enforcement officers often use mass arrests as a technique to help clear the streets, not to confront illegal behavior.

For those handling the cases, the task has felt Sisyphean. “Every day I would think I was done and the next morning there would be 50 or 100 cases to tally,” said Mary Ellen Heng, a deputy city attorney for Minneapolis. So far the city is pursuing about 75 of 666 cases.

Protest leaders and defense attorneys nationwide accuse the police of piling on charges to try to halt the demonstrations. “It was to squelch dissent,” said Attica Scott, the only Black woman in the Kentucky State Legislature and one of the protest organizers detained by the police.


despite the lies from trump your concept of the charges are only more of his lies.. as in not true..

This is a shorter quicker article that gives basic information.. more t***h then you want to hear , but facts are facts..


https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in-portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors

Review Of Federal Charges In Portland Unrest Shows Most Are Misdemeanors

charges outstanding against 74 people in connection with the Portland unrest.

Of those cases charged, 11 are for citations and 42 are for misdemeanors, meaning that more than 70% of the total charged cases are not felonies.

"A citation is the least serious of a charge, it's really more of a ticket," said Lisa Hay, the federal public defender for Oregon.

The misdemeanor cases are almost evenly divided between class A and class C misdemeanors.

American Vet

So Permy - you believe that people have a right to burn, l**t, attack federal buildings, and attack police?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Now you are pretending to be a dummy..

as the articles told you, we are talking mostly about mass arrests to clear the streets and charges of misdemeanors, low level misdemeanors..

Those you speak of should face sterner charges..

In Mpls, those who did burn the cop station were mostly ID and faceing court cases of arson and others.. it took weeks of investigating to find and id them but most are now sitting in jail.

It must hurt you deeply to know that most of the crowd was not burning and r**ting.. and did indeed have an ax to grind..

Unlike those who stormed our capitol fully intending to k**l the VP, Pelosi and any others who they got hands on and mainly overturn our government and the constitution..

Those are the true enemy of the state. and of anyone else who wishes for America to continue as a beacon to the world..

American Vet

Nope, just pointing out the idiocy of your comments.

So again: Do you believe that people have a right to burn, l**t, attack federal buildings, and attack police? Want to answer? Or just cowardly dodge?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Now you are being obtuse... I have said in the past and in my last reply to you.. r****rs should be arrested and prosicuted.. the same thing that Joe Biden our president said..

I also said and will say again the people attacking our capital wishing to k**l some of our governing people are much worse offenders than the people busting window and stealing for stores on Lake street in Mple.

Wishing to destroy our government and way of life I far more costly and deadly then grabbing a tv from the store after the window has been smashed..

so now tell me, after I have told you again my opinion, tell me what you think is lawful, trying to k**l those in the capital, ending the long example of American leadership..

Just what is it? do you believe in anything at all other then if you can grab it you get to keep it...

American Vet

So it is just a degree of the offense.

What I disagree with - but you seem to support - is the dropping of the charges. It doesn't matter whether it is a TV or a murder - if the person committed the crime they should be prosecuted.

Yet the charges were dropped.

See the difference?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

What you do not seem to consider is our overloaded court system.. it is not only the immigration judges who can not keep up with the work load. Most local systems are also backlogged for months and months.

so the position is why pack in more misdemeanor and "ticket" offences when the real serious crime should be the one addressed.. as in chase down the dummy who grabbed the TV or incarcerate the terrorists who wanted to k**l and destroy our very nation..

See the difference.. the most damaging, just like the squeaky wheel should get the attention..

When you have had your TV stolen, chance are the cops filed a report and little else. time does not permit anything more.. if you family member was murdered, which I hope never happens then or now, the effor would be extream and long lasting.. even Mpls has a cold case file and the state as well, The Wetterling murder was solved but 30 years too late..

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

America mourns a "ONCE GREAT ARM OF THE JUSTICE DEPT"...NOW JUST A EMPTY SHELL OF DISHONOR, & LACK OF INTEGRITY, UNDER THE "WRECKING BAR", OF MUELLER, Comey, NOW Wray, & A HANDFUL OF AGENTS GONE AWRY...Aided & abetted by the lamestream media, & an evil Demoncrat party!

Now, that "some entity", to be ashamed of!

American Vet

So criminals can go free because the courts are too busy? Don't you think that is a problem? Locally when the courts are booked, the charged person (if it is a non-violent charge) is released with a court date: If they don't show then they have an arrest warrant out. Works pretty well.

So do you believe the charges should have been dropped?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

do you never follow the news.. the courts understaffing, particularly the immigration courts are the high point of republicans via McConnell relentless work of decades, even generations..

charges dropped??? be specific, what charges are you concerned with?

In this neck of the woods, a charged person must have a hearing.. if it is decided he must go to court, he faces a bail hearing, if he is given and posts bail, he get a court date when he must appear..

I mixed a couple of threads sad to say.. so I may have posted to you but gotten the post on the wrong thread.. if so, sorry about that...

American Vet

You dance and avoid answering the question: So do you believe the charges should have been dropped?

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Looking back at this thread I have to think you are talking about various charges from the r**ts... Yes, I think some of them where only made to clear the streets.. done and done.. send them home..

NO, charges of arson and any beyond misdemeanors should and in all case I have heard of , kept and brought to trial or headed that way.. some still in the process. after all these months..

I have repeated this about a dozen times now.. are you happy? No, that would be too much to expect., but you should at least understand that it is not a simple yes or no question. because the protesters/r****rs were not a single reaction.. some were by pros from out state, most were home grown ally kids doing thing because they could and the majority were only protesters and not the criminals you contend they all were.. petty thieves and guilty of vandalism, yes these are what the local rat packs did, not the community involved citizens..

i will also remind you and your that crime on a per capita basis is nearly identical rates in all parts of our country.. that the majority are crowded into cities demands most attention to these dense populated area.. simply by the numbers..

American Vet

American Vet

We will have to agree to disagree.

I believe criminals should be charged and punished. You disagree with that. That is a simple concept...not complicated at all.

Cite your source for your "identical rates" because the FBI does not agree with you.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/violent-crime