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Let the Corporations Do The Dirty Work
Jul 19, 2021 19:26:26   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
"Despite the rising call for mandatory vaccinations, the Biden administration clearly is not willing to face the political costs of a government mandate. As of July 11, 159,266,536 Americans were fully vaccinated — 48 percent of the country’s population. When you consider the extremely high rate of vaccination for those over 65 (an estimated 85 percent), the percentage of adults under 65 is even smaller. That is a lot of voters who would not take well to a government mandate before the 2022 election. Moreover, the Supreme Court upheld a mandatory state vaccine in 1905, but any federal mandate could face constitutional challenges.

Private companies, however, have great leeway in dictating such conditions. So some, like CNN medical analyst Dr. Leana Wen, have called for coercive measures making it “hard for people to remain unvaccinated.” That coercion would come from private companies which would deny people access to travel, restaurants, movies, schools and other aspects of modern life. Thus, as with Psaki’s statement, the Biden White House is signaling private companies to implement such a national passport system.

And companies are listening.

Recently, Morgan Stanley declared that all employees must get a vaccine to return to work. While some many have religious objections, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman made clear in July that employees would face what Wen called “hard” times if they tried to work from home: “If you want to get paid New York rates, you work in New York. None of this, ‘I’m in Colorado … and getting paid like I’m sitting in New York City.’ Sorry, that doesn’t work.” The message could not be clearer that working remotely will come at a penalty.

If successful, corporations will manage a system of barriers and penalties to isolate the vaccine-hesitant into smaller and smaller spaces of existence.

Citizens would find it increasingly difficult to be able to travel or dine out unless they meet the demands of corporate policies.

The political convenience of relying on corporate controls is most evident in the support for a massive system of corporate-based speech controls now implanted in the United States. The government cannot implement a censorship system under the Constitution — but it can outsource censorship functions to private companies like Facebook and Twitter. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shadow-state-embracing-corporations-surrogates-government-action

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Jul 20, 2021 09:06:12   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Despite the rising call for mandatory vaccinations, the Biden administration clearly is not willing to face the political costs of a government mandate. As of July 11, 159,266,536 Americans were fully vaccinated — 48 percent of the country’s population. When you consider the extremely high rate of vaccination for those over 65 (an estimated 85 percent), the percentage of adults under 65 is even smaller. That is a lot of voters who would not take well to a government mandate before the 2022 election. Moreover, the Supreme Court upheld a mandatory state vaccine in 1905, but any federal mandate could face constitutional challenges.

Private companies, however, have great leeway in dictating such conditions. So some, like CNN medical analyst Dr. Leana Wen, have called for coercive measures making it “hard for people to remain unvaccinated.” That coercion would come from private companies which would deny people access to travel, restaurants, movies, schools and other aspects of modern life. Thus, as with Psaki’s statement, the Biden White House is signaling private companies to implement such a national passport system.

And companies are listening.

Recently, Morgan Stanley declared that all employees must get a vaccine to return to work. While some many have religious objections, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman made clear in July that employees would face what Wen called “hard” times if they tried to work from home: “If you want to get paid New York rates, you work in New York. None of this, ‘I’m in Colorado … and getting paid like I’m sitting in New York City.’ Sorry, that doesn’t work.” The message could not be clearer that working remotely will come at a penalty.

If successful, corporations will manage a system of barriers and penalties to isolate the vaccine-hesitant into smaller and smaller spaces of existence.

Citizens would find it increasingly difficult to be able to travel or dine out unless they meet the demands of corporate policies.

The political convenience of relying on corporate controls is most evident in the support for a massive system of corporate-based speech controls now implanted in the United States. The government cannot implement a censorship system under the Constitution — but it can outsource censorship functions to private companies like Facebook and Twitter. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shadow-state-embracing-corporations-surrogates-government-action
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Where you been ?
The minute you walk through the door of an American company you are transported to an entirely different world .
Into corporate rule.
Authoritarian.
Now because of thinking like yours we have lost a once fine country to corporates and big money calling all of your freedom and Liberty shots.

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Jul 20, 2021 13:06:50   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Where you been ?
The minute you walk through the door of an American company you are transported to an entirely different world .
Into corporate rule.
Authoritarian.
Now because of thinking like yours we have lost a once fine country to corporates and big money calling all of your freedom and Liberty shots.


I think you need to explain what you mean by "thinking like yours we have lost a once fine country to corporates and big money calling all of your freedom and Liberty shots." I think that I have been pretty consistent in advocating "free speech" for everyone, including those with whom I disagree. Can you say the same? Have you criticized Twitter for silencing President Trump? How about Facebook deplatforming those who express a different view? I don't recall seeing anything from you on those issues.

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Jul 20, 2021 13:41:01   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
ACP45 wrote:
I think you need to explain what you mean by "thinking like yours we have lost a once fine country to corporates and big money calling all of your freedom and Liberty shots." I think that I have been pretty consistent in advocating "free speech" for everyone, including those with whom I disagree. Can you say the same? Have you criticized Twitter for silencing President Trump? How about Facebook deplatforming those who express a different view? I don't recall seeing anything from you on those issues.
I think you need to explain what you mean by "... (show quote)


The notion that Corporations know better than anyone else how things should be handled is why corporations can’t stop telling you what to do.
Where you work will force you to go all the way to court before they back down.
They are not always right.
By thinking like this , you jump right over the people who have a responsibility to do the right thing.
The people.
If you are willing to allow the corporation to tell you what to do, then , all cliches aside , you are not free.
The corporation has one objective.
Profit. Everything else is a hindrance .
Everything that isn’t profit needs to be mitigated, to keep the profit ball rolling.
Is your life that simple ?
Should corporations be in charge of government?
What could go wrong there ?

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Jul 20, 2021 19:13:30   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
I do not disagree with you. Many corporations have "no soul" and exist solely for the concept of maximizing profit for the shareholder at the expense of society as a whole.

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Jul 21, 2021 12:51:22   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: Rhode Island
 
ACP45 wrote:
I think you need to explain what you mean by "thinking like yours we have lost a once fine country to corporates and big money calling all of your freedom and Liberty shots." I think that I have been pretty consistent in advocating "free speech" for everyone, including those with whom I disagree. Can you say the same? Have you criticized Twitter for silencing President Trump? How about Facebook deplatforming those who express a different view? I don't recall seeing anything from you on those issues.
I think you need to explain what you mean by "... (show quote)



ACP45, Milo is "Constitution blind", unable to see the real truth or worth of the Constitution.

(The government cannot implement a censorship system under the Constitution — but it can outsource censorship functions to private companies like Facebook and Twitter.)

As soon as the government starts asking private companies to restrict Constitutional Rights, those companies become Agents of the government AND MUST adhere to ALL Constitutional Rights. Any Supreme Court justice that rules otherwise needs to be removed from the bench by impeachment.

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Jul 22, 2021 07:53:11   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
ACP45, Milo is "Constitution blind", unable to see the real truth or worth of the Constitution.

(The government cannot implement a censorship system under the Constitution — but it can outsource censorship functions to private companies like Facebook and Twitter.)

As soon as the government starts asking private companies to restrict Constitutional Rights, those companies become Agents of the government AND MUST adhere to ALL Constitutional Rights. Any Supreme Court justice that rules otherwise needs to be removed from the bench by impeachment.
ACP45, Milo is "Constitution blind", una... (show quote)


Exactly so.

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