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What We Learned From the Maricopa Audit Hearing
Jul 19, 2021 07:16:24   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
The Praying Medic does a great job detailing a number of problems reported by the forensic audit team in their two hour presentation to the Arizona Senate. https://prayingmedic.com/2021/07/16/what-we-learned-from-the-maricopa-audit-hearing/

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Jul 19, 2021 07:42:05   #
Kevyn
 
ACP45 wrote:
The Praying Medic does a great job detailing a number of problems reported by the forensic audit team in their two hour presentation to the Arizona Senate. https://prayingmedic.com/2021/07/16/what-we-learned-from-the-maricopa-audit-hearing/

The results of the cyber ninja fantasy audit
The results of the cyber ninja fantasy audit...

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Jul 19, 2021 07:47:53   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Liberal lunch is served..... better than California, there you have to eat it off the sidewalk.

Enjoy your Democrat Philly cheese steak........ wiz or provolone? You gotta have cheese with that.



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Jul 19, 2021 10:08:01   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ACP45 wrote:
The Praying Medic does a great job detailing a number of problems reported by the forensic audit team in their two hour presentation to the Arizona Senate. https://prayingmedic.com/2021/07/16/what-we-learned-from-the-maricopa-audit-hearing/


The AP, a real investigative reporting outfit, reports less than 200 potential fraud cases.

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Jul 19, 2021 14:01:22   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The AP, a real investigative reporting outfit, reports less than 200 potential fraud cases.


Do you know how to read and interpret data? I don't think so. Show me the AP response to the AZ forensic audit report to the Arizona Senate. And.... read the Praying Medic recap of their findings and then come back and tell me there is no v****g fraud.

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Jul 19, 2021 14:18:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ACP45 wrote:
Do you know how to read and interpret data? I don't think so. Show me the AP response to the AZ forensic audit report to the Arizona Senate. And.... read the Praying Medic recap of their findings and then come back and tell me there is no v****g fraud.


Lot of articles one this.. this one was convienent to post.. follow the link for full story. Or pick some other real world article..

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/18/politics/fact-check-maricopa-audit-arizona-cyber-ninjas-74000/index.html

Fact check: Arizona audit chief baselessly raises suspicion about 74,000 b****ts
Daniel Dale profileTara Subramaniam
By Daniel Dale and Tara Subramaniam, CNN

Updated 9:29 AM ET, Sun July 18, 2021

The review is being conducted by Cyber Ninjas, a cybersecurity firm that has no experience in e******n auditing. And the company's chief executive officer, Doug Logan, made some Thursday claims that were immediately called into question by the county and independent experts.
Here's a brief look at two of them.

Facts First: There is no evidence of either fraud or any significant error with these b****ts, and certainly not "magically appearing b****ts." Both Maricopa County and outside experts say there is a simple explanation for the gap Logan claimed had not been explained: the existence of in-person early v****g. Contrary to Logan's claims, the b****t lists he was talking about include not only mail-in b****ts but also b****ts cast early in person.
Here's why it's entirely normal for Maricopa County's submitted-b****ts list to include a significant number of v**es that do not match up with entries on the requested-b****ts list. After the deadline to request a mail-in b****t, which was October 23 in 2020, the requested-b****t list doesn't get updated by the county. But the submitted-b****ts list does get updated after that October 23 deadline -- with the v**es of in-person early v**ers.
Logan's suggestion of some sort of unsolved mystery was definitively debunked by Garrett Archer, an e******n analyst at ABC15 television in Phoenix and a former official in the Arizona secretary of state's office, who is known locally and on Twitter for his mastery of the state's e******ns data.
Archer explained that the county stops updating the requested-b****ts list, known as "EV32," after the last day people can request a mail b****t, October 23. So b****ts cast in person after October 23, Archer said, were included on the submitted-b****ts list, known as "EV33," but did not have a corresponding item on the "EV32" requested-b****ts list.
Archer analyzed the files and found that there were 74,241 b****ts on the submitted-b****ts list without a corresponding entry on the requested-b****ts list -- nearly identical to the figure Logan cited, "74,243." But Archer found that more than 99.9% of the b****ts in question were recorded in the submitted-b****ts list on October 26 or later.
That is in line with the October 23 cut-off date Archer had previously noted for the requested-b****ts list.
The explanation: October 24 and 25 were weekend days when county clerks didn't update the submitted-b****t list, Archer said, so they added the b****ts cast by in-person v**ers on those weekend days to the submitted-b****t totals starting on October 26.
"This is a glaring omission in the analysis," Archer tweeted of the auditors. "It is either grossly negligent for failing to see a pattern of b****ts being returned after a certain date or the statements were deliberately misleading."
Tammy Patrick, an e******ns expert who spent more than a decade working at Maricopa County's e******ns department, also said on Twitter that the requested-b****ts list stops getting updated 11 days before E******n Day but the submitted-b****ts list continues to get updated until the day before E******n Day.
Patrick tweeted of the auditors: "AGAIN: They don't know what they're looking at."

Facts First: The office of Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer, a Republican elected in 2020, strongly denied this claim. "At no point during the 2020 e******n cycle did Maricopa County modify the rigorous signature verification requirements. Any suggestion to the contrary is categorically false," the recorder's office said on Twitter.

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Jul 19, 2021 18:44:52   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
permafrost wrote:
Lot of articles one this.. this one was convienent to post.. follow the link for full story. Or pick some other real world article..

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/18/politics/fact-check-maricopa-audit-arizona-cyber-ninjas-74000/index.html

Fact check: Arizona audit chief baselessly raises suspicion about 74,000 b****ts
Daniel Dale profileTara Subramaniam
By Daniel Dale and Tara Subramaniam, CNN

Updated 9:29 AM ET, Sun July 18, 2021

The review is being conducted by Cyber Ninjas, a cybersecurity firm that has no experience in e******n auditing. And the company's chief executive officer, Doug Logan, made some Thursday claims that were immediately called into question by the county and independent experts.
Here's a brief look at two of them.

Facts First: There is no evidence of either fraud or any significant error with these b****ts, and certainly not "magically appearing b****ts." Both Maricopa County and outside experts say there is a simple explanation for the gap Logan claimed had not been explained: the existence of in-person early v****g. Contrary to Logan's claims, the b****t lists he was talking about include not only mail-in b****ts but also b****ts cast early in person.
Here's why it's entirely normal for Maricopa County's submitted-b****ts list to include a significant number of v**es that do not match up with entries on the requested-b****ts list. After the deadline to request a mail-in b****t, which was October 23 in 2020, the requested-b****t list doesn't get updated by the county. But the submitted-b****ts list does get updated after that October 23 deadline -- with the v**es of in-person early v**ers.
Logan's suggestion of some sort of unsolved mystery was definitively debunked by Garrett Archer, an e******n analyst at ABC15 television in Phoenix and a former official in the Arizona secretary of state's office, who is known locally and on Twitter for his mastery of the state's e******ns data.
Archer explained that the county stops updating the requested-b****ts list, known as "EV32," after the last day people can request a mail b****t, October 23. So b****ts cast in person after October 23, Archer said, were included on the submitted-b****ts list, known as "EV33," but did not have a corresponding item on the "EV32" requested-b****ts list.
Archer analyzed the files and found that there were 74,241 b****ts on the submitted-b****ts list without a corresponding entry on the requested-b****ts list -- nearly identical to the figure Logan cited, "74,243." But Archer found that more than 99.9% of the b****ts in question were recorded in the submitted-b****ts list on October 26 or later.
That is in line with the October 23 cut-off date Archer had previously noted for the requested-b****ts list.
The explanation: October 24 and 25 were weekend days when county clerks didn't update the submitted-b****t list, Archer said, so they added the b****ts cast by in-person v**ers on those weekend days to the submitted-b****t totals starting on October 26.
"This is a glaring omission in the analysis," Archer tweeted of the auditors. "It is either grossly negligent for failing to see a pattern of b****ts being returned after a certain date or the statements were deliberately misleading."
Tammy Patrick, an e******ns expert who spent more than a decade working at Maricopa County's e******ns department, also said on Twitter that the requested-b****ts list stops getting updated 11 days before E******n Day but the submitted-b****ts list continues to get updated until the day before E******n Day.
Patrick tweeted of the auditors: "AGAIN: They don't know what they're looking at."

Facts First: The office of Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer, a Republican elected in 2020, strongly denied this claim. "At no point during the 2020 e******n cycle did Maricopa County modify the rigorous signature verification requirements. Any suggestion to the contrary is categorically false," the recorder's office said on Twitter.
Lot of articles one this.. this one was convienent... (show quote)


Neither you, nor I know the actual technical procedures for how the e******n process works. Let them settle this in court, with both sides telling their story, with cross-examination, and then let the jury decide who in fact is telling the t***h. You bring up one issue, which may or may not have a reasonable explanation, or not. Now let's talk about the routers that have not been turned over, and the instructions to use ball point pens up until e******n day, when the poll workers were then told to hand out sharpies for people to complete the b****t. How about addressing the issue of the internet traffic from the e******n machines to countries outside the US. How about addressing the issue of all the b****ts with printing calibration problems that were not in conformance with v****g regulations and had an offset of between 1,500 and 3,000 per cent offset, or the 3,981 people who v**ed in November despite the fact that they registered after the October 15th registration deadline, or the 11,326 people v**ed who were not found on v**ers rolls on November 7th, 2020, but were found on v**er rolls a month later on Dec 4th. How about the 18,000 people v**ed and were removed from the v**er rolls immediately following the e******n.

Address these issues, and then we can continue this discussion.

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Jul 19, 2021 19:48:47   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Lot of articles one this.. this one was convienent to post.. follow the link for full story. Or pick some other real world article..

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/18/politics/fact-check-maricopa-audit-arizona-cyber-ninjas-74000/index.html

Fact check: Arizona audit chief baselessly raises suspicion about 74,000 b****ts
Daniel Dale profileTara Subramaniam
By Daniel Dale and Tara Subramaniam, CNN

Updated 9:29 AM ET, Sun July 18, 2021

The review is being conducted by Cyber Ninjas, a cybersecurity firm that has no experience in e******n auditing. And the company's chief executive officer, Doug Logan, made some Thursday claims that were immediately called into question by the county and independent experts.
Here's a brief look at two of them.

Facts First: There is no evidence of either fraud or any significant error with these b****ts, and certainly not "magically appearing b****ts." Both Maricopa County and outside experts say there is a simple explanation for the gap Logan claimed had not been explained: the existence of in-person early v****g. Contrary to Logan's claims, the b****t lists he was talking about include not only mail-in b****ts but also b****ts cast early in person.
Here's why it's entirely normal for Maricopa County's submitted-b****ts list to include a significant number of v**es that do not match up with entries on the requested-b****ts list. After the deadline to request a mail-in b****t, which was October 23 in 2020, the requested-b****t list doesn't get updated by the county. But the submitted-b****ts list does get updated after that October 23 deadline -- with the v**es of in-person early v**ers.
Logan's suggestion of some sort of unsolved mystery was definitively debunked by Garrett Archer, an e******n analyst at ABC15 television in Phoenix and a former official in the Arizona secretary of state's office, who is known locally and on Twitter for his mastery of the state's e******ns data.
Archer explained that the county stops updating the requested-b****ts list, known as "EV32," after the last day people can request a mail b****t, October 23. So b****ts cast in person after October 23, Archer said, were included on the submitted-b****ts list, known as "EV33," but did not have a corresponding item on the "EV32" requested-b****ts list.
Archer analyzed the files and found that there were 74,241 b****ts on the submitted-b****ts list without a corresponding entry on the requested-b****ts list -- nearly identical to the figure Logan cited, "74,243." But Archer found that more than 99.9% of the b****ts in question were recorded in the submitted-b****ts list on October 26 or later.
That is in line with the October 23 cut-off date Archer had previously noted for the requested-b****ts list.
The explanation: October 24 and 25 were weekend days when county clerks didn't update the submitted-b****t list, Archer said, so they added the b****ts cast by in-person v**ers on those weekend days to the submitted-b****t totals starting on October 26.
"This is a glaring omission in the analysis," Archer tweeted of the auditors. "It is either grossly negligent for failing to see a pattern of b****ts being returned after a certain date or the statements were deliberately misleading."
Tammy Patrick, an e******ns expert who spent more than a decade working at Maricopa County's e******ns department, also said on Twitter that the requested-b****ts list stops getting updated 11 days before E******n Day but the submitted-b****ts list continues to get updated until the day before E******n Day.
Patrick tweeted of the auditors: "AGAIN: They don't know what they're looking at."

Facts First: The office of Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer, a Republican elected in 2020, strongly denied this claim. "At no point during the 2020 e******n cycle did Maricopa County modify the rigorous signature verification requirements. Any suggestion to the contrary is categorically false," the recorder's office said on Twitter.
Lot of articles one this.. this one was convienent... (show quote)


Ah, CNN, the quintessential source for t***h.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

You must truly be high. I mean truly!!!!

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Jul 19, 2021 19:50:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
ACP45 wrote:
Neither you, nor I know the actual technical procedures for how the e******n process works. Let them settle this in court, with both sides telling their story, with cross-examination, and then let the jury decide who in fact is telling the t***h. You bring up one issue, which may or may not have a reasonable explanation, or not. Now let's talk about the routers that have not been turned over, and the instructions to use ball point pens up until e******n day, when the poll workers were then told to hand out sharpies for people to complete the b****t. How about addressing the issue of the internet traffic from the e******n machines to countries outside the US. How about addressing the issue of all the b****ts with printing calibration problems that were not in conformance with v****g regulations and had an offset of between 1,500 and 3,000 per cent offset, or the 3,981 people who v**ed in November despite the fact that they registered after the October 15th registration deadline, or the 11,326 people v**ed who were not found on v**ers rolls on November 7th, 2020, but were found on v**er rolls a month later on Dec 4th. How about the 18,000 people v**ed and were removed from the v**er rolls immediately following the e******n.

Address these issues, and then we can continue this discussion.
Neither you, nor I know the actual technical proce... (show quote)


But don't bring in CNN opinions or sources. They lie like no one else.

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Jul 20, 2021 06:39:14   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
But don't bring in CNN opinions or sources. They lie like no one else.


I may not trust CNN, but I am willing to consider their side of the AZ forensic audit story. They offer one such explanation for one of the issues brought up by forensic audit team. Does their explanation have any validity? I have no idea. Point being some issues are too nuanced and complicated for the average individual to ascertain the t***h. The AZ forensic audit report to the Senate was 2 hours long, and numerous issues were raised. The CNN article dealt with only one. What does that tell you?

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Jul 20, 2021 09:33:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
ACP45 wrote:
I may not trust CNN, but I am willing to consider their side of the AZ forensic audit story. They offer one such explanation for one of the issues brought up by forensic audit team. Does their explanation have any validity? I have no idea. Point being some issues are too nuanced and complicated for the average individual to ascertain the t***h. The AZ forensic audit report to the Senate was 2 hours long, and numerous issues were raised. The CNN article dealt with only one. What does that tell you?
I may not trust CNN, but I am willing to consider ... (show quote)


CNN will cherry pick, twist and lie about it, that's what.

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Jul 20, 2021 12:58:33   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
CNN will cherry pick, twist and lie about it, that's what.


Yes, and that's why we need to keep calling them out on it, and exposing them for what they are.

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Jul 20, 2021 13:02:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
ACP45 wrote:
Yes, and that's why we need to keep calling them out on it, and exposing them for what they are.



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Jul 21, 2021 02:06:17   #
One Patriot
 
You should go see a doctor about that!

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