woodguru

And unlike your komrade on OPP, I have no problem if those who are not smart enough to get v******ted respond, try to keep it civil and halfway intelligent.

I respect the rights of people to make their own decisions, but I also think that decisions have consequences that people should take responsibility for. You have an opportunity to get a v*****e that taxpayers paid billions of dollars for that costs you nothing. We are at the 200 million people v******ted point...more people are dying of C***d that have had problems with getting a v*****e than the ones that have. Even those who got the v*****e and then get C***d because they are exposed to it from people that haven't are not being hospitalized except in rare cases.

So do we as a society that paid big money for one of the better v*****es in history, have any obligation to pay for people who are not smart enough to get v******ted?

Seriously, it's your choice not to get a v***s that will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars if you are hospitalized, where is the expectancy that you take responsibility for your bad decision? I personally think that if you need emergency care that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, unless you have insurance the bill for your ignorance should be coming out of your estate.

If god is your copilot here pray, but take responsibility for your own ignorance.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Practice what you preach, bubba.

antimarxist

I agree with you on this. I pray but I would also take responsibility for myself if I became I'll, but then I'm not a socialist.

EmilyD

How does your sentence, "You have an opportunity to get a v*****e that taxpayers paid billions of dollars for that costs you nothing." make sense? If we, the taxpayers, are paying for it, then it is not "costing us nothing"... What's really wrong with that thought, though, is that people who don't want the inoculation and who will not be using it are still paying for it.

Yes...seriously, it is everyone's choice to either get inoculated or not. People have their own personal reasons for not getting it that you have no knowledge of. You have your reasons for getting it, that is your business and your business alone. For you to make judgement on others for not choosing the way YOU think they should is presumptuous at the very least!

Decisions have consequences...that's true. And one thing you have no idea about - because NO ONE does at this point - is how this gene manipulation experiment is going to affect people in the long term - those consequences could be very dire, indeed! In months...years and even decades, this could be affecting people in seriously adverse ways, including death.

So get off your high horse and leave people who live and think differently than you do alone. We are adults. We are allowed to make choices and decisions based on ourselves, our lives and our beliefs.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Would you feel the same about v*****e if Trump was still President?

woodguru

No, a socialist takes the v*****e being offered, and saves the country from spending billions of dollars on emergency care that could have been prevented.

The unv******ted person who gets sick and accepts hundreds of thousands in emergency care is more of a socialist than they want to admit.

EmilyD

So...if those who have received the inoculation get sick because they chose something they know nothing about, pay for their medical care themselves? The logic is the same. The only difference is your assumption that the decision YOU made is the correct one. There is a big chance that it is not. Time will tell if you are correct, but right now nobody knows. You are doing what you are being told to do, and you are believing strangers that it is safe and effective. Not everyone believes that, and you should respect them for having confidence in the decision they are making. I believe Medicare would pay for it.

By the way, the pharmaceutical community has a very clear disclaimer that they will not be responsible for anything that happens as a result of taking the inoculation - ever. You can't sue doctors if it causes adverse reaction or death. If you need medical care because you have had a reaction, it's on you. I've heard that insurance companies, also, are balking at paying for medical care. It's probably a case-by-case decision whether they pay for you or not. I believe Medicare would pay for it either way...C****a or the adverse reaction.

Dr. Robert Malone, who invented M-RNA (the substance that is in the gene therapy experimental inoculation), is adamant that people should NOT get the shot!!

Here he saying it:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-save-the-world-in-three-easy-steps/id1471581521?i=1000525032595

That is a 3 hour podcast.

Here is a shorter 15 minute video with Dr. Malone.

https://www.b***hute.com/video/clQkacASumtc/

Wonttakeitanymore

Not necessary if u had C***d! Period! This isn’t polio, which bye actually had a viable v*****e and eliminated polio with no variants! Sheeple!

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Dear plays with wood.

You speak with devil-ish forked tongue.

Your first sentence is a puny assault on independent thinkers.

You post run of the mill indoctrination rubbish.

woodguru

I don't even understand the question being phrased as a political bias thing, my choices would be the same regardless. The right thinks like this so they think everyone operates on a bias system. I'd, have gotten it, it was obvious from early on that it was allowing people to feel safer getting somewhat back to normal.

My wife and her employees were able to get it very early on under essential business category as a veterinarian, she got it and I was able to get it from the VA a couple of weeks after that...had the same availability been there under trump we'd have done the same thing.

She still makes people wear masks, people will say but I've been v******ted, she tells them it isn't a debate, if they don't want to wear a mask they can wait in the car and her lab assistants will go out and get their birds. The reality is that people who refuse to wear masks are just as prone to lying and saying they were v******ted when they weren't.

woodguru

Is that what you call yourself, you who repeats the ridiculous rhetoric you hear on FOX and other right wing sites?

Yes, trump has it right, his people are truly special.

woodguru

Having C***d and saying you will never have to worry about getting it again would be like saying if you have had a cold or flu you will never get a cold or flu respectively again. Getting early C***d lite will not necessarily keep you from getting a stronger variant.

woodguru

You are operating on beliefs while I am going by statistics and the numbers...numbers based on last year's progression of C***d spreading through the summer, and how the exponential spread numbers work.

There is plenty of statistical significant regional information to get an early view of how this is replicating spreads in both v******ted areas and non v*****e regions. Areas with the highest rates of v******tion are experiencing very little hospitalizations, where the lowest regions are maxing out theirs to where they are sending people out to bigger areas. In Missouri the outsorce areas are inundated to where they are asking for emergency help.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The P******c is OVER

It’s over.

C****-** isn’t gone, of course. The c****av***s, the current novel one and its variants as well as other such v***ses, will never be gone, and every public health expert knows that.

And the p******c is still raging in other parts of the world, especially in India.

But in the United States, the emergency is over. The epidemic in America is like a poisoned rat, limping, staggering, crawling, and gasping its last breaths. The poison is the v*****e now jabbed into the arms of most adults.

P******c, thou art slain.

We can say that without diminishing in any way the lethality of the past year, and without having to debate the value of the interventions and sacrifices of the last 14 months.

This was a crisis. It was a plague. Now, in the U.S., it’s just a v***s.

In countries such as the U.S., the United Kingdom, and Israel, the c****av***s is now one of countless risks and threats to human health. And like all other risks, prudence dictates we mitigate it. But reasonable humans do not demand that risks be reduced to zero at any cost.

Driving, swimming, hiking, drinking, eating, making love, raising children — all of these things are risky. Living is a risk. For the past 14 months, we’ve been asked and ordered to give up a lot of living in order to save lives. It’s time to start living again.

This will not be easy for many. Public health officials won’t want their moment to end. Mayors and county executives won’t want to give up their emergency powers. The media will h**e to lose an ever-present threat with which to scare the public daily.

And many people, scarred and altered by 14 months of lockdowns, the half-million deaths, and the constant reminders of invisible germs, will have trouble giving up their masks or reentering the world.

Some will choose to stay quarantined or even keep wearing masks outdoors. That’s sad, but it’s their right. Just as it is ours to acknowledge the facts and readjust our routine accordingly.

While the media greeted the May 13 loosening of mask guidance as an all-nearly-clear declaration from the White House, it is up to neither the media nor the government to declare normalcy. The remaining restrictions — on the unv******ted, especially on children — also need to be ended whether Joe Biden or Anthony F***i is ready or not.

What does it mean, then, to accept that the emergency is over?

All schools should open five days a week. Workers should return to the office. All of us should toss our masks in the trash.

Churches and bars should be filled to wh**ever the fire marshal will allow, so that we can pray, sing, and revel as before.

This is already what life is like in much of the country. If you live in Texas or Florida or Missouri, where infection rates are low and hospitalizations are falling while masks are rare and everything’s open, you might say the p******c is already over. You’d be right.
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EmilyD

You are really pushing it by implying that the v***s will get stronger. THEY DON'T KNOW THAT YET!!! They do know that the v***s will mutate - AND that the new v*****es that have been given out for the initial strain of c***d will not work on the new strains! V***ses mutate about every 10 hours. And that new mutation is a different genetic makeup from the strain it mutated from.

It remains to be seen if the global elite will try to tell everyone they must get periodic booster shots for the rest of their lives for all the strains evolving from c***d, or if you are going to make the decision that enough is enough and listen to the scientists who are telling us NOT to get the injection, and why.