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Uncovered: Illegal attack on 364,000 Georgia V**ers

[June 22, 2021]

by Greg Palast for The Thom Hartmann Program and Black Gwinnett News (Georgia)
------------------------------------------------------------

Pamela Reardon wants to stop Tamara Horne from v****g.

Reardon of Marietta, Georgia who is running for Vice-Chair of the state Republican Party, has filed a legal challenge to Horne’s v**e — one of 32,379 v**ers in Cobb County Reardon has challenged under a little-noticed provision of Georgia’s new v****g restriction law, SB202.

Reardon, who admits she never met, called nor contacted Horne, accused the African-American of the felony crime of v****g illegally because, Reardon says Horne, like the thousands of others Horne [sic] has challenged, does not live in Cobb County.

Our investigations team reached Horne at her home in Cobb County — and confirmed she is a legal v**er. Nevertheless, Reardon is challenging her v**e. Altogether, Reardon and 87 other operatives have filed challenges under the new law to block a breathtaking 364,000 v**ers from having their b****ts counted.

A review of the list indicates most challenged are v**ers of color. In an on-camera interview (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=05dc17ecd3&e=6845967510) with this reporter, Reardon stated that she and her fellow challengers, including the Chairman of the Cobb County Republican Party, were given the unverified hit list by True the V**e, a right-wing group out of Houston, Texas.

Reardon admitted, “I did not speak to the 32,000 people.” In fact, she did not speak to a single one.

Reardon and other True the V**e front-men had originally challenged the counting of these v**ers' b****ts in December, just three weeks before the Georgia Senate run-off race. Many of these v**ers had already mailed in their b****ts and were unaware of the attempt to prevent them from being counted.

Had the challenges succeeded, it is unlikely that the Democratic candidates would have won their US Senate seats — and the US Senate would have remained in Republican control.




** ACLU: This was an abuse
------------------------------------------------------------
However, in December, the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia blocked this initial challenge, warning counties that federal law prohibits blockades of v**ers within 90 days of an e******n. Many county e******ns boards also questioned whether one person could reasonably have knowledge of the legal status of thousands of other Georgians.

When informed that True the V**e was resurrecting the challenge under the new Georgia law, Georgia ACLU attorney Rahul Garabadu told us that these mass challenges were dangerous because, "Probable cause requires some individualized suspicion, which means you can't just print out reams and reams of information … and throw them to a county. The statute didn’t contemplate someone coming to town and challenging hundreds of thousands of v**ers. This, in our view, was an abuse of that statute.”

But then, in March, the Georgia Legislature changed the statute to allow an “unlimited” number of challenges.



** Violating the anti-Klan Act
------------------------------------------------------------
Attorney Gerald Griggs is known for his successful suits against v**e suppression tactics on behalf of the Atlanta NAACP. When informed of these wild, unsupported challenges of a third of a million v**ers, Griggs said that Reardon and friends could be violating the anti-Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 which makes intimidation of v**ers a crime.

When Reardon was asked if she was familiar with the Ku Klux Klan law, she replied, “I’m Canadian!” She noted later that she became a v****g US citizen in 1994.

The Palast Investigations team spoke to several of Reardon’s challenged v**ers. Many had stories similar to Horne, who told our investigators that she had temporarily moved because she lost her job due to C***d and had to sell her home. Horne, who had moved within the County and therefore remains a legal v**er, was stunned that her right to v**e is challenged, stating, “This is the first I’m hearing about this. They never called me, never wrote me. I’ve been v****g in Cobb for years. This is just unfair.”

Reardon stated, “I don't know anybody that's moved temporarily because of C***D.”

During an interview filmed at her home, Reardon did not recognize a photo of Horne, claimed she did not recognize Horne’s name. Nor could Reardon recognize another legal v**er, Storm Saul, yet she challenged this v**er's b****t, and thousands of others.

I spoke with Saul at his home and verified that he’d cast his b****t legally. He was offended that Reardon and her co-challengers would accuse him and others of a v****g illegally, a felony crime.

The state’s own investigation of the November p**********l race could not identify a single illegal v**er, let alone hundreds of thousands.

Reardon, a local GOP official, is backed by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene for Vice-Chair of the Georgia Republican Party. (In February, Taylor Greene was stripped of Congressional committee posts over anti-Semitic conspiracy statements.)



** Tossing out v****g officials
------------------------------------------------------------
And just in case county officials attempt to reject these renewed mass challenges, another little-noticed clause in SB202 will enforce the v**er purge.

Counties, who previously had final say over v**er rolls and the counting of b****ts, must now accept the challenges. If not, the State E******ns Board can dismiss local v****g officials. The newly constituted state board is, according to the new law, under the control of Governor Brian Kemp and legislative leaders, all Republicans.

The new board just removed v****g rights advocate Helen Butler from the Monroe County E******ns Board. Butler, Executive Director of the Georgia Coalition for the Peoples Agenda, was my co-plaintiff in a successful federal suit against then Sec. of State Brian Kemp.



** Billionaires’ Dark Money
------------------------------------------------------------
Behind True the V**e is their major funder, the Bradley Foundation, right-wing billionaires based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the “new Koch Brothers,” who have dedicated $2 billion to right-wing causes, particularly challenges to v**ers’ rights in Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas and now Georgia. Should the True the V**e operation succeed in Georgia, it would set a precedent for other states that still have private citizen challenge laws left over from the Jim Crow era.

True the V**e did not respond to our several requests for an interview nor did Jason Shepard, Cobb County Republican Chairman who himself has challenged an additional 16,000 local v**ers.

Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has encouraged mass challenges by True the V**e’s so-called “E*****rs” as a way to get around federal v**er protections. On its website, True the V**e quotes Raffensperger, “Though federal law restricts our ability to update our v***r r**********n lists, the E*****r Challenge is a vehicle under our law to ensure v**er integrity.”

I have attempted several times to speak with Raffensperger without success.

The interview with Reardon concluded when, questioned about the legality of her actions, Reardon ordered me to leave. I did leave immediately, taking note of the several handguns and ammunition boxes lying about, the shotgun leaning next to her front door and photos of Reardon holding an automatic weapon.

GOP v**e challenger Reardon showed us her boxes of ammo and handguns on the coffee table and shotgun next to the front door. Photo: Zach D. Roberts
The stately Reardon, dressed elegantly in a Nancy Reagan-style red dress, concluded her argument with, “You’re an a**hole. F*** you!”


https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=253bffc79d&e=6845967510


For over 8 years, Palast has been investigating v**e suppression in Georgia for Rolling Stone, Black V**ers Matter and, for this investigation, The Thom Hartmann Program (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=bbecf6e5c6&e=6845967510) . Georgia report produced and edited by David Ambrose for The Thom Hartmann Program and the Palast Investigative Fund. Videographer/Associate Producer: Zach D. Roberts.
Watch for Palast’s interview on Brian Ross Investigates Tuesday night.

============================================================

Greg Palast (Rolling Stone, Guardian, BBC) is the author of The New York Times bestsellers, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy and Billionaires & B****t Bandits, out as major non-fiction movie: ** The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Case of the S****n E******n (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=e7814ddd0c&e=6845967510)
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Jun 22, 2021 16:23:14   #
Carol Kelly
 
3507 wrote:
Uncovered: Illegal attack on 364,000 Georgia V**ers

[June 22, 2021]

by Greg Palast for The Thom Hartmann Program and Black Gwinnett News (Georgia)
------------------------------------------------------------

Pamela Reardon wants to stop Tamara Horne from v****g.

Reardon of Marietta, Georgia who is running for Vice-Chair of the state Republican Party, has filed a legal challenge to Horne’s v**e — one of 32,379 v**ers in Cobb County Reardon has challenged under a little-noticed provision of Georgia’s new v****g restriction law, SB202.

Reardon, who admits she never met, called nor contacted Horne, accused the African-American of the felony crime of v****g illegally because, Reardon says Horne, like the thousands of others Horne [sic] has challenged, does not live in Cobb County.

Our investigations team reached Horne at her home in Cobb County — and confirmed she is a legal v**er. Nevertheless, Reardon is challenging her v**e. Altogether, Reardon and 87 other operatives have filed challenges under the new law to block a breathtaking 364,000 v**ers from having their b****ts counted.

A review of the list indicates most challenged are v**ers of color. In an on-camera interview (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=05dc17ecd3&e=6845967510) with this reporter, Reardon stated that she and her fellow challengers, including the Chairman of the Cobb County Republican Party, were given the unverified hit list by True the V**e, a right-wing group out of Houston, Texas.

Reardon admitted, “I did not speak to the 32,000 people.” In fact, she did not speak to a single one.

Reardon and other True the V**e front-men had originally challenged the counting of these v**ers' b****ts in December, just three weeks before the Georgia Senate run-off race. Many of these v**ers had already mailed in their b****ts and were unaware of the attempt to prevent them from being counted.

Had the challenges succeeded, it is unlikely that the Democratic candidates would have won their US Senate seats — and the US Senate would have remained in Republican control.




** ACLU: This was an abuse
------------------------------------------------------------
However, in December, the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia blocked this initial challenge, warning counties that federal law prohibits blockades of v**ers within 90 days of an e******n. Many county e******ns boards also questioned whether one person could reasonably have knowledge of the legal status of thousands of other Georgians.

When informed that True the V**e was resurrecting the challenge under the new Georgia law, Georgia ACLU attorney Rahul Garabadu told us that these mass challenges were dangerous because, "Probable cause requires some individualized suspicion, which means you can't just print out reams and reams of information … and throw them to a county. The statute didn’t contemplate someone coming to town and challenging hundreds of thousands of v**ers. This, in our view, was an abuse of that statute.”

But then, in March, the Georgia Legislature changed the statute to allow an “unlimited” number of challenges.



** Violating the anti-Klan Act
------------------------------------------------------------
Attorney Gerald Griggs is known for his successful suits against v**e suppression tactics on behalf of the Atlanta NAACP. When informed of these wild, unsupported challenges of a third of a million v**ers, Griggs said that Reardon and friends could be violating the anti-Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 which makes intimidation of v**ers a crime.

When Reardon was asked if she was familiar with the Ku Klux Klan law, she replied, “I’m Canadian!” She noted later that she became a v****g US citizen in 1994.

The Palast Investigations team spoke to several of Reardon’s challenged v**ers. Many had stories similar to Horne, who told our investigators that she had temporarily moved because she lost her job due to C***d and had to sell her home. Horne, who had moved within the County and therefore remains a legal v**er, was stunned that her right to v**e is challenged, stating, “This is the first I’m hearing about this. They never called me, never wrote me. I’ve been v****g in Cobb for years. This is just unfair.”

Reardon stated, “I don't know anybody that's moved temporarily because of C***D.”

During an interview filmed at her home, Reardon did not recognize a photo of Horne, claimed she did not recognize Horne’s name. Nor could Reardon recognize another legal v**er, Storm Saul, yet she challenged this v**er's b****t, and thousands of others.

I spoke with Saul at his home and verified that he’d cast his b****t legally. He was offended that Reardon and her co-challengers would accuse him and others of a v****g illegally, a felony crime.

The state’s own investigation of the November p**********l race could not identify a single illegal v**er, let alone hundreds of thousands.

Reardon, a local GOP official, is backed by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene for Vice-Chair of the Georgia Republican Party. (In February, Taylor Greene was stripped of Congressional committee posts over anti-Semitic conspiracy statements.)



** Tossing out v****g officials
------------------------------------------------------------
And just in case county officials attempt to reject these renewed mass challenges, another little-noticed clause in SB202 will enforce the v**er purge.

Counties, who previously had final say over v**er rolls and the counting of b****ts, must now accept the challenges. If not, the State E******ns Board can dismiss local v****g officials. The newly constituted state board is, according to the new law, under the control of Governor Brian Kemp and legislative leaders, all Republicans.

The new board just removed v****g rights advocate Helen Butler from the Monroe County E******ns Board. Butler, Executive Director of the Georgia Coalition for the Peoples Agenda, was my co-plaintiff in a successful federal suit against then Sec. of State Brian Kemp.



** Billionaires’ Dark Money
------------------------------------------------------------
Behind True the V**e is their major funder, the Bradley Foundation, right-wing billionaires based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the “new Koch Brothers,” who have dedicated $2 billion to right-wing causes, particularly challenges to v**ers’ rights in Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas and now Georgia. Should the True the V**e operation succeed in Georgia, it would set a precedent for other states that still have private citizen challenge laws left over from the Jim Crow era.

True the V**e did not respond to our several requests for an interview nor did Jason Shepard, Cobb County Republican Chairman who himself has challenged an additional 16,000 local v**ers.

Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has encouraged mass challenges by True the V**e’s so-called “E*****rs” as a way to get around federal v**er protections. On its website, True the V**e quotes Raffensperger, “Though federal law restricts our ability to update our v***r r**********n lists, the E*****r Challenge is a vehicle under our law to ensure v**er integrity.”

I have attempted several times to speak with Raffensperger without success.

The interview with Reardon concluded when, questioned about the legality of her actions, Reardon ordered me to leave. I did leave immediately, taking note of the several handguns and ammunition boxes lying about, the shotgun leaning next to her front door and photos of Reardon holding an automatic weapon.

GOP v**e challenger Reardon showed us her boxes of ammo and handguns on the coffee table and shotgun next to the front door. Photo: Zach D. Roberts
The stately Reardon, dressed elegantly in a Nancy Reagan-style red dress, concluded her argument with, “You’re an a**hole. F*** you!”


https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=253bffc79d&e=6845967510


For over 8 years, Palast has been investigating v**e suppression in Georgia for Rolling Stone, Black V**ers Matter and, for this investigation, The Thom Hartmann Program (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=bbecf6e5c6&e=6845967510) . Georgia report produced and edited by David Ambrose for The Thom Hartmann Program and the Palast Investigative Fund. Videographer/Associate Producer: Zach D. Roberts.
Watch for Palast’s interview on Brian Ross Investigates Tuesday night.

============================================================

Greg Palast (Rolling Stone, Guardian, BBC) is the author of The New York Times bestsellers, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy and Billionaires & B****t Bandits, out as major non-fiction movie: ** The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Case of the S****n E******n (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=e7814ddd0c&e=6845967510)
, available on ** Amazon (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=6e045747d4&e=6845967510)
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Uncovered: Illegal attack on 364,000 Georgia V**er... (show quote)


I think Georgia b****s in Cobb County are Privileged B****s and r****ts. Just sayin’.

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Jun 22, 2021 17:08:50   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
3507 wrote:
Uncovered: Illegal attack on 364,000 Georgia V**ers

[June 22, 2021]

by Greg Palast for The Thom Hartmann Program and Black Gwinnett News (Georgia)
------------------------------------------------------------

Pamela Reardon wants to stop Tamara Horne from v****g.

Reardon of Marietta, Georgia who is running for Vice-Chair of the state Republican Party, has filed a legal challenge to Horne’s v**e — one of 32,379 v**ers in Cobb County Reardon has challenged under a little-noticed provision of Georgia’s new v****g restriction law, SB202.

Reardon, who admits she never met, called nor contacted Horne, accused the African-American of the felony crime of v****g illegally because, Reardon says Horne, like the thousands of others Horne [sic] has challenged, does not live in Cobb County.

Our investigations team reached Horne at her home in Cobb County — and confirmed she is a legal v**er. Nevertheless, Reardon is challenging her v**e. Altogether, Reardon and 87 other operatives have filed challenges under the new law to block a breathtaking 364,000 v**ers from having their b****ts counted.

A review of the list indicates most challenged are v**ers of color. In an on-camera interview (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=05dc17ecd3&e=6845967510) with this reporter, Reardon stated that she and her fellow challengers, including the Chairman of the Cobb County Republican Party, were given the unverified hit list by True the V**e, a right-wing group out of Houston, Texas.

Reardon admitted, “I did not speak to the 32,000 people.” In fact, she did not speak to a single one.

Reardon and other True the V**e front-men had originally challenged the counting of these v**ers' b****ts in December, just three weeks before the Georgia Senate run-off race. Many of these v**ers had already mailed in their b****ts and were unaware of the attempt to prevent them from being counted.

Had the challenges succeeded, it is unlikely that the Democratic candidates would have won their US Senate seats — and the US Senate would have remained in Republican control.




** ACLU: This was an abuse
------------------------------------------------------------
However, in December, the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia blocked this initial challenge, warning counties that federal law prohibits blockades of v**ers within 90 days of an e******n. Many county e******ns boards also questioned whether one person could reasonably have knowledge of the legal status of thousands of other Georgians.

When informed that True the V**e was resurrecting the challenge under the new Georgia law, Georgia ACLU attorney Rahul Garabadu told us that these mass challenges were dangerous because, "Probable cause requires some individualized suspicion, which means you can't just print out reams and reams of information … and throw them to a county. The statute didn’t contemplate someone coming to town and challenging hundreds of thousands of v**ers. This, in our view, was an abuse of that statute.”

But then, in March, the Georgia Legislature changed the statute to allow an “unlimited” number of challenges.



** Violating the anti-Klan Act
------------------------------------------------------------
Attorney Gerald Griggs is known for his successful suits against v**e suppression tactics on behalf of the Atlanta NAACP. When informed of these wild, unsupported challenges of a third of a million v**ers, Griggs said that Reardon and friends could be violating the anti-Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 which makes intimidation of v**ers a crime.

When Reardon was asked if she was familiar with the Ku Klux Klan law, she replied, “I’m Canadian!” She noted later that she became a v****g US citizen in 1994.

The Palast Investigations team spoke to several of Reardon’s challenged v**ers. Many had stories similar to Horne, who told our investigators that she had temporarily moved because she lost her job due to C***d and had to sell her home. Horne, who had moved within the County and therefore remains a legal v**er, was stunned that her right to v**e is challenged, stating, “This is the first I’m hearing about this. They never called me, never wrote me. I’ve been v****g in Cobb for years. This is just unfair.”

Reardon stated, “I don't know anybody that's moved temporarily because of C***D.”

During an interview filmed at her home, Reardon did not recognize a photo of Horne, claimed she did not recognize Horne’s name. Nor could Reardon recognize another legal v**er, Storm Saul, yet she challenged this v**er's b****t, and thousands of others.

I spoke with Saul at his home and verified that he’d cast his b****t legally. He was offended that Reardon and her co-challengers would accuse him and others of a v****g illegally, a felony crime.

The state’s own investigation of the November p**********l race could not identify a single illegal v**er, let alone hundreds of thousands.

Reardon, a local GOP official, is backed by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene for Vice-Chair of the Georgia Republican Party. (In February, Taylor Greene was stripped of Congressional committee posts over anti-Semitic conspiracy statements.)



** Tossing out v****g officials
------------------------------------------------------------
And just in case county officials attempt to reject these renewed mass challenges, another little-noticed clause in SB202 will enforce the v**er purge.

Counties, who previously had final say over v**er rolls and the counting of b****ts, must now accept the challenges. If not, the State E******ns Board can dismiss local v****g officials. The newly constituted state board is, according to the new law, under the control of Governor Brian Kemp and legislative leaders, all Republicans.

The new board just removed v****g rights advocate Helen Butler from the Monroe County E******ns Board. Butler, Executive Director of the Georgia Coalition for the Peoples Agenda, was my co-plaintiff in a successful federal suit against then Sec. of State Brian Kemp.



** Billionaires’ Dark Money
------------------------------------------------------------
Behind True the V**e is their major funder, the Bradley Foundation, right-wing billionaires based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the “new Koch Brothers,” who have dedicated $2 billion to right-wing causes, particularly challenges to v**ers’ rights in Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas and now Georgia. Should the True the V**e operation succeed in Georgia, it would set a precedent for other states that still have private citizen challenge laws left over from the Jim Crow era.

True the V**e did not respond to our several requests for an interview nor did Jason Shepard, Cobb County Republican Chairman who himself has challenged an additional 16,000 local v**ers.

Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has encouraged mass challenges by True the V**e’s so-called “E*****rs” as a way to get around federal v**er protections. On its website, True the V**e quotes Raffensperger, “Though federal law restricts our ability to update our v***r r**********n lists, the E*****r Challenge is a vehicle under our law to ensure v**er integrity.”

I have attempted several times to speak with Raffensperger without success.

The interview with Reardon concluded when, questioned about the legality of her actions, Reardon ordered me to leave. I did leave immediately, taking note of the several handguns and ammunition boxes lying about, the shotgun leaning next to her front door and photos of Reardon holding an automatic weapon.

GOP v**e challenger Reardon showed us her boxes of ammo and handguns on the coffee table and shotgun next to the front door. Photo: Zach D. Roberts
The stately Reardon, dressed elegantly in a Nancy Reagan-style red dress, concluded her argument with, “You’re an a**hole. F*** you!”


https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=253bffc79d&e=6845967510


For over 8 years, Palast has been investigating v**e suppression in Georgia for Rolling Stone, Black V**ers Matter and, for this investigation, The Thom Hartmann Program (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=bbecf6e5c6&e=6845967510) . Georgia report produced and edited by David Ambrose for The Thom Hartmann Program and the Palast Investigative Fund. Videographer/Associate Producer: Zach D. Roberts.
Watch for Palast’s interview on Brian Ross Investigates Tuesday night.

============================================================

Greg Palast (Rolling Stone, Guardian, BBC) is the author of The New York Times bestsellers, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy and Billionaires & B****t Bandits, out as major non-fiction movie: ** The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Case of the S****n E******n (https://gregpalast.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=33e4ec877eed6a43863a4a92e&id=e7814ddd0c&e=6845967510)
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Uncovered: Illegal attack on 364,000 Georgia V**er... (show quote)


If it is illegal, it should be easy to stop. IF they are not correct in their efforts. You will need to PROVE your accusations. Sorry, I no longer trust either side. to be honest and honorable.

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Jun 22, 2021 21:38:21   #
3507
 
RandyBrian wrote:
If it is illegal, it should be easy to stop. IF they are not correct in their efforts. You will need to PROVE your accusations. Sorry, I no longer trust either side. to be honest and honorable.


"If it is illegal, it should be easy to stop." No. It takes a lot of effort. Particularly, it does, when, in one stroke, one (1) person can remove (or "challenge") "32,379" v**ers just because they're on some list that somebody made (while other individuals got other v**ers removed or challenged, and it all added up to over 300,000 v**ers), and the list hasn't even been verified; while, those removed aren't even told about it until it is too late for them to do anything about it until after the e******n; and while those who do find out and want to fight the removal have to make a lawsuit in court. Can you see which side has the uphill battle? This has been going on for many years; for example, Greg Palast reported on similar v**er removal tactics in Florida in 2000.

As described in the article, the legislators are making the line between "challenged" and "removed" ever thinner, as if it weren't already razor thin or non-existent in many cases.

"PROVE": Yes, after much effort, the cases get brought to court, and are proven there, and the court recognizes the proof: Example(s) 1: "Attorney Gerald Griggs is known for his successful suits against v**e suppression tactics on behalf of the Atlanta NAACP." Example 2: "Butler, Executive Director of the Georgia Coalition for the Peoples Agenda, was my [Palast's] co-plaintiff in a successful federal suit against then Sec. of State Brian Kemp."

Have you ever been the victim of somebody else's illegal action? I have. It took four years and $90,000 of borrowed money to fight against it. The illegal action was comparatively effortless and easy to repeat, and it was repeated, but fewer times as the case wore on and my high-priced (third main) attorney and I proved one thing after another in court. That's after I was able to get anyone to even take me seriously. Once the court finally did look at evidence and facts of the case, THEN it was easier to have the proof recognized; but it took over two years before I could arrange for any judge to even look at any of the evidence.

In the article, Greg Palast (a very experienced person) says:

"I have attempted several times to speak with [Georgia Secretary of State] Raffensperger [the top official in the state regarding v**ers] without success." See? Not easy. And yet it's certainly worth that Georgia Secretary of State's attention, because it's over 300,000 v**ers total involved (stemming from not only Ms Reardon but also several other people like her). As Palast describes in the article, that many v**ers removed is enough to affect which party has the majority in the U.S. Senate, and almost did make the difference. (The Georgia e******n of U.S. Senators was so close it resulted in a runoff e******n.)

"The interview with Reardon concluded when, questioned about the legality of her actions, Reardon ordered me [Palast] to leave. I did leave immediately, taking note of the several handguns and ammunition boxes lying about, the shotgun leaning next to her front door and photos of Reardon holding an automatic weapon.

"GOP v**e challenger Reardon showed us her boxes of ammo and handguns on the coffee table and shotgun next to the front door. Photo: Zach D. Roberts

"The stately Reardon, dressed elegantly in a Nancy Reagan-style red dress, concluded her argument with, 'You’re an a**hole. F*** you!'"

That was so easy for Mr. Palast, maybe someone like yourself would volunteer to do the next interview with Ms Reardon and ask her (again) on what (legal) basis she got the 32,379 people removed (using the unverified list). I suggest wearing a bullet-proof vest to the interview. I would, because it would make the task of surviving the interview a little less stressful. I mean, just knowing I had that extra level of protection would make my mind a bit more at ease. I understand that such a vest is worn underneath something else, so that a shooter would not realize it was there and aim for some other body part.

Another person who fights illegal actions in the South is (or was) Southern Poverty Law Center attorney Morris Dees, and he describes what that's like in his book "A Lawyer's Journey: the Morris Dees Story", e.g., pages 6-11. He risks his life, or did risk it. The book's a little bit old by now; the events it describes were more than 20 years ago. The Palast article describes something that happened much more recently -- no exorcist chanting this time, and the weapon is not concealed.

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Jun 22, 2021 22:03:21   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
3507 wrote:
"If it is illegal, it should be easy to stop." No. It takes a lot of effort. Particularly, it does, when, in one stroke, one (1) person can remove (or "challenge") "32,379" v**ers just because they're on some list that somebody made (while other individuals got other v**ers removed or challenged, and it all added up to over 300,000 v**ers), and the list hasn't even been verified; while, those removed aren't even told about it until it is too late for them to do anything about it until after the e******n; and while those who do find out and want to fight the removal have to make a lawsuit in court. Can you see which side has the uphill battle? This has been going on for many years; for example, Greg Palast reported on similar v**er removal tactics in Florida in 2000.

As described in the article, the legislators are making the line between "challenged" and "removed" ever thinner, as if it weren't already razor thin or non-existent in many cases.

"PROVE": Yes, after much effort, the cases get brought to court, and are proven there, and the court recognizes the proof: Example(s) 1: "Attorney Gerald Griggs is known for his successful suits against v**e suppression tactics on behalf of the Atlanta NAACP." Example 2: "Butler, Executive Director of the Georgia Coalition for the Peoples Agenda, was my [Palast's] co-plaintiff in a successful federal suit against then Sec. of State Brian Kemp."

Have you ever been the victim of somebody else's illegal action? I have. It took four years and $90,000 of borrowed money to fight against it. The illegal action was comparatively effortless and easy to repeat, and it was repeated, but fewer times as the case wore on and my high-priced (third main) attorney and I proved one thing after another in court. That's after I was able to get anyone to even take me seriously. Once the court finally did look at evidence and facts of the case, THEN it was easier to have the proof recognized; but it took over two years before I could arrange for any judge to even look at any of the evidence.

In the article, Greg Palast (a very experienced person) says:

"I have attempted several times to speak with [Georgia Secretary of State] Raffensperger [the top official in the state regarding v**ers] without success." See? Not easy. And yet it's certainly worth that Georgia Secretary of State's attention, because it's over 300,000 v**ers total involved (stemming from not only Ms Reardon but also several other people like her). As Palast describes in the article, that many v**ers removed is enough to affect which party has the majority in the U.S. Senate, and almost did make the difference. (The Georgia e******n of U.S. Senators was so close it resulted in a runoff e******n.)

"The interview with Reardon concluded when, questioned about the legality of her actions, Reardon ordered me [Palast] to leave. I did leave immediately, taking note of the several handguns and ammunition boxes lying about, the shotgun leaning next to her front door and photos of Reardon holding an automatic weapon.

"GOP v**e challenger Reardon showed us her boxes of ammo and handguns on the coffee table and shotgun next to the front door. Photo: Zach D. Roberts

"The stately Reardon, dressed elegantly in a Nancy Reagan-style red dress, concluded her argument with, 'You’re an a**hole. F*** you!'"

That was so easy for Mr. Palast, maybe someone like yourself would volunteer to do the next interview with Ms Reardon and ask her (again) on what (legal) basis she got the 32,379 people removed (using the unverified list). I suggest wearing a bullet-proof vest to the interview. I would, because it would make the task of surviving the interview a little less stressful. I mean, just knowing I had that extra level of protection would make my mind a bit more at ease. I understand that such a vest is worn underneath something else, so that a shooter would not realize it was there and aim for some other body part.

Another person who fights illegal actions in the South is (or was) Southern Poverty Law Center attorney Morris Dees, and he describes what that's like in his book "A Lawyer's Journey: the Morris Dees Story", e.g., pages 6-11. He risks his life, or did risk it. The book's a little bit old by now; the events it describes were more than 20 years ago. The Palast article describes something that happened much more recently -- no exorcist chanting this time, and the weapon is not concealed.
"If it is illegal, it should be easy to stop.... (show quote)


Quite a fairy tale. Most of it is horse puckey, with just enough t***h inserted to make it sound sort of, kind of, believable.

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Jun 22, 2021 22:11:22   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Quite a fairy tale. Most of it is horse puckey, with just enough t***h inserted to make it sound sort of, kind of, believable.


I have to agree. i read, willing to give the benefit of a doubt, until he mentioned the SPLC. That shut the door on any credibility.

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Jun 23, 2021 13:10:10   #
3507
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Quite a fairy tale. Most of it is horse puckey, with just enough t***h inserted to make it sound sort of, kind of, believable.


Can you identify any part which is false or not credible?

For any such part, can you explain why you find that part false or not credible?

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Jun 23, 2021 13:12:31   #
3507
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I have to agree. i read, willing to give the benefit of a doubt, until he mentioned the SPLC. That shut the door on any credibility.


So, can you explain why "SPLC" indicates non-credibility to you?

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Jun 23, 2021 13:27:55   #
woodguru
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I think Georgia b****s in Cobb County are Privileged B****s and r****ts. Just sayin’.


They are still eligible to v**e and their v**es should be counted, millions of r****t right wingers are allowed to v**e, what's wrong with r****t b****s v****g?

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Jun 23, 2021 13:36:40   #
woodguru
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I have to agree. i read, willing to give the benefit of a doubt, until he mentioned the SPLC. That shut the door on any credibility.


The door needed to be shut on the submission of names by a right wing group such as true the v**e, no, their "word" cannot be taken and acted upon in terms of an active count.

Republicans pulled this in one of the Carolinas in an e******n, said dead people had v**ed and pulled the number 30,000 out of their rectums. It took months to go through the v**er rolls and they found 11 dead people had v**ed. Not 30,000. The people who brought that number as a supposed "fact" should still be in prison.

The right seems to think they should be able to make numbers and allegations up and the e******n should be stopped and called in their favor because they want it that way, believe that this is how it should be.

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Jun 23, 2021 13:47:21   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
3507 wrote:
Can you identify any part which is false or not credible?

For any such part, can you explain why you find that part false or not credible?


No, I can not select any part and prove it is false. And each part is "credible" in the sense that it is possibly true. Just as if I made a statement that thirty different times, when you were alone and unobserved, you ate fried asparagus with chocolate chips and mustard poured on top. Now....can you prove may statement is false?
But, that point being made, my problem with this report is it is clearly and obviously not objective journalism. If fact, it is extremely slanted. The writer makes sneering remarks about Ms Reardon. He holds an antagonistic interview. He treats the challenged v**ers like helpless innocents. He makes non-related sarcastic remarks, such as 'wearing a Nancy Reagan style red dress'. Or making an issue of 'handguns and ammo lying about'. What does that have to do with the issue, if even true, and who cares? Clearly the "reporter" does.....anything to make Reardon appear to be an out of control right wing lunatic. The fact that the interviewer is NOT an objective reporter is clear by who he has worked for for the past eight years. Those folks do not retain reporters who do not toe their political line. Therefore NO credibility is attributable to this report.
I repeat: If what Reardon and the others have done with their challenges is illegal, then all the County has to do is refuse to comply, or take it to a judge. This sorry jerk of a reporter tries to make it sound like Reardon and the others are making a personal attack on the 'victims'....all 300,000 of them. How much do you want to bet the challenge was based on people moving and not updating their new residence? How much do you want to bet it has more to do with accurate v***r r**********n records and nothing to do with "suppressing" v**ers?
If I legally challenge 5000 inaccurate v***r r**********ns, here in Texas, because the addresses are wrong, and it turns out 4000 of them are people of color, my challenge is NOT r****t.....it has only to do with them not meeting their legal obligation to make sure their place of residence is accurate.

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Jun 23, 2021 13:51:18   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
3507 wrote:
So, can you explain why "SPLC" indicates non-credibility to you?


Sure. They have a history of frivolous attacks and law suits against anything and anyone non-liberal. They have a well-defined function to, among other things, act as a legal "hit team" for the democratic party.
Don't believe me? Do a little research.

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Jun 23, 2021 13:57:07   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
They are still eligible to v**e and their v**es should be counted, millions of r****t right wingers are allowed to v**e, what's wrong with r****t b****s v****g?


Not a thing. They should do so and I encourage them to do so. But follow the rules. Keep your v***r r**********n accurate and safe. I know EXACTLY where mine and my wife's are at, and can reach them in less than a minute. They are important documents. Birth certificates and marriage certificate is right there with them in a fireproof box.
Sorry, but if you move and do not update the information with your county, then you have thrown away your chance to v**e. And no, I absolutely do NOT think that exceptions for the poor fellows should be made. If they do not see enough importance to v****g to take the needed legal steps, then perhaps they should consider not bothering.

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Jun 23, 2021 14:09:00   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
The door needed to be shut on the submission of names by a right wing group such as true the v**e, no, their "word" cannot be taken and acted upon in terms of an active count.

Republicans pulled this in one of the Carolinas in an e******n, said dead people had v**ed and pulled the number 30,000 out of their rectums. It took months to go through the v**er rolls and they found 11 dead people had v**ed. Not 30,000. The people who brought that number as a supposed "fact" should still be in prison.

The right seems to think they should be able to make numbers and allegations up and the e******n should be stopped and called in their favor because they want it that way, believe that this is how it should be.
The door needed to be shut on the submission of na... (show quote)


I absolutely agree with you. ANYone who tries such activities should do prison time. And "the right" does not think any such thing. If they are doing something illegal, legally stop it and prosecute them. Passing laws to make it easy to slant e******ns THEIR way has been done by both sides, but it is happily embraced by the current democrat leadership. Examples: Two years ago ending the filibuster was condemned by every democrat as being vile, evil, and a direct attack on democracy. I agreed with them. Today, virtually every democrat is clamoring for the filibuster to be ended, to "save democracy". I am laughing at them. Trump issuing EOs was vile and d********g and undemocratic and an attempt to destroy our democracy. Biden issuing MORE EOs is honorable, wonderful, and an attempt to say our democracy. Democrats blocking legislation through rules is patriotic. Republicans blocking legislation through rules is t*****rous. I could go on, but you get the point.

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Jun 24, 2021 00:32:21   #
3507
 
RandyBrian wrote:
No, I can not select any part and prove it is false. And each part is "credible" in the sense that it is possibly true. Just as if I made a statement that thirty different times, when you were alone and unobserved, you ate fried asparagus with chocolate chips and mustard poured on top. Now....can you prove may statement is false?
But, that point being made, my problem with this report is it is clearly and obviously not objective journalism. If fact, it is extremely slanted. The writer makes sneering remarks about Ms Reardon. He holds an antagonistic interview. He treats the challenged v**ers like helpless innocents. He makes non-related sarcastic remarks, such as 'wearing a Nancy Reagan style red dress'. Or making an issue of 'handguns and ammo lying about'. What does that have to do with the issue, if even true, and who cares? Clearly the "reporter" does.....anything to make Reardon appear to be an out of control right wing lunatic. The fact that the interviewer is NOT an objective reporter is clear by who he has worked for for the past eight years. Those folks do not retain reporters who do not toe their political line. Therefore NO credibility is attributable to this report.
I repeat: If what Reardon and the others have done with their challenges is illegal, then all the County has to do is refuse to comply, or take it to a judge. This sorry jerk of a reporter tries to make it sound like Reardon and the others are making a personal attack on the 'victims'....all 300,000 of them. How much do you want to bet the challenge was based on people moving and not updating their new residence? How much do you want to bet it has more to do with accurate v***r r**********n records and nothing to do with "suppressing" v**ers?
If I legally challenge 5000 inaccurate v***r r**********ns, here in Texas, because the addresses are wrong, and it turns out 4000 of them are people of color, my challenge is NOT r****t.....it has only to do with them not meeting their legal obligation to make sure their place of residence is accurate.
No, I can not select any part and prove it is fals... (show quote)


Some of what you say here is true (though not material). I agree that Greg Palast sometimes appears abrasive and/or intrusive, and makes occasional remarks that are more personal than relevant (as with the style of dress). However, the abrasive and intrusive parts are a necessary part of the job, because nobody who removes tens of thousands of v**ers without justification other than they're on some unverified list likes to be questioned about it, but should be questioned about it, and the sooner the better. This is an investigative reporter, with many successes under his belt, and he asks hard questions, "hard" because the person questioned doesn't want to have to explain what she did. But anyone who removes v**ers as she did _should_ have to explain it.

You mention who he works for. Some of his work as been published by The Guardian. He's also written a few best-selling books about his work, and at least one non-fiction movie. One of the entities he "works for" now is Black V**ers Matter: whatsamatter, you think there's something not credible about Black v**ers mattering?

You say, "all the County has to do is refuse to comply", but the original article responds directly to that, saying:

"And just in case county officials attempt to reject these renewed mass challenges, another little-noticed clause in SB202 will enforce the v**er purge.

"Counties, who previously had final say over v**er rolls and the counting of b****ts, must now accept the challenges. If not, the State E******ns Board can dismiss local v****g officials. The newly constituted state board is, according to the new law, under the control of Governor Brian Kemp and legislative leaders, all Republicans.

"The new board just removed v****g rights advocate Helen Butler from the Monroe County E******ns Board. Butler, Executive Director of the Georgia Coalition for the Peoples Agenda, was my co-plaintiff in a successful federal suit against then Sec. of State Brian Kemp."

Some such purges, including this one, _are_ based (as you suggested they were) on supposed changes of residence. But the lists are slapped together carelessly (or worse, presuming moves even when they shouldn't be presumed, to purge the largest number possible of some kind of v**ers). A lot of the people either haven't moved at all or have moved within the county so should not be purged. This particular article gives examples but doesn't say how many; but Palast & those working with him are very right to be suspicious that it's a large number, because a similar trick was done, also in Georgia, in the time when Brian Kemp was Secretary of State (he was also a candidate for Governor _while_ he was Secretary of State, therefore overseeing the e******n in which he was a candidate -- he was therefore asked to step down from that obviously biased position as Secretary of State, but didn't.). Here's what Palast writes about _that_ purge:

"How could I find out exactly how many on the list had ~actually moved~ -- versus how many were simply re-moved by Kemp?" And he describes how to find out. Then he concludes: "More than a third of a million wrongly purged -- in this one state. The list was more than 74% wrong." My source: _How Trump Stole 2020_, by Greg Palast, pages 18-21, but the same book also includes an Appendix with more detail about that.

It's a rough business, and the investigative reporter and his team keep after the officials until they get answers. You're blaming the reporter, but it's the purgers who really are, in your words, "out of control right wing"; but not "lunatic", more like devious or venal. The reporter is basically telling the t***h about them.

You also say, in a hypothetical example, "[if] it turns out 4000 of them are people of color, my challenge is NOT r****t"; and I agree that the fact that a large number are people of color does not imply r****m. But a wrong purge is wrong whether they happen to be of color or not.

There's a logical reason why these purged v**ers would share some characteristics. The excuse for purging them was that they were presumed moved out of county. That excuse is mostly false. But the purged v**ers have something else in common: they "happen to be" of demographics that tend to v**e Democratic.

Another excuse the purgers give is that they're trying to prevent illegal v****g. And yet time and again, the following happens:

"The state’s own investigation of the November p**********l race could not identify a single illegal v**er, let alone hundreds of thousands." (reference: the original article, which I posted in the original post).

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