Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

In Response to Possibility of Being Denied Communion, Pelosi Implies She's God
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a professed Roman Catholic, has been no stranger to controversy during her years in office. Now, with a fellow Catholic occupying the White House, their pro-a******n stance is raising serious concerns among the higher-ups in the Roman Catholic Church.

Last week, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone — Pelosi’s bishop — suggested that those who support a******n should be denied Holy Communion. In response, Pelosi said she can do wh**ever she wants.

“I think I can use my own judgment on that, but I’m pleased with what the Vatican put out on that subject,” she said when questioned by a reporter.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is set to meet next month with plans to v**e on Communion guidelines. Some bishops have pushed to bar pro-a******n public officials from receiving the sacrament. The head of the Vatican’s doctrine office issued a warning to the conference to deliberate carefully to avoid sowing division.

It’s no surprise that Pelosi is “pleased” with this pronouncement, as it allows her to hide behind a high-minded concern for the unity of the church. However, it does not erase the line where acceptance ends and conviction begin.

Christians are to pray for unity, but not at the expense of biblical values. We must recognize that what we have in common is sin, and along with it the need to repent and take responsibility for that sin.

The good news is that no one is beyond forgiveness. But we cannot condone sin and error for the sake of avoiding division.

Cordileone made clear that Pelosi is engaging in sin by promoting a******n, but he did not say that those who support a******n are irredeemable. Rather, he invited them to turn and accept traditional Christian teaching.

“If you find that you are unwilling or unable to abandon your advocacy for a******n, you should not come forward to receive Holy Communion,” he said in a letter.

“Please stop pretending that advocating for or practicing a grave moral evil — one that snuffs out an innocent human life, one that denies a fundamental human right (or practicing homosexuality kemmer) — is somehow compatible with the Catholic faith (remember kemmer you’re a Catholic). It is not. Please return home to the fullness of your Catholic faith. We await you with open arms to welcome you back.”

While division in the church is lamentable, sometimes following Christ means telling sinners what they may not want to hear like you kemmer.

We cannot water down Christianity so as not to offend people or bend the teachings of the Bible to fit the backward trends of modernity.

Hey kemmer, LISTEN UP!
What’s more, Pelosi’s suggestion that she can decide for herself whether her actions are compatible with her faith turns her into a church of one. If only God can judge, then let him. We do not get to decide what is and is not a sin.

Pelosi’s rhetoric effectively puts her in the place of God. But she doesn’t make the rules — he does.

Being a Christian involves correcting sinful behavior and beliefs, not justifying them. We must change rather than demand the church give way to our sin.

Barring a******n supporters (and practicing homosexuals) from partaking in Communion is a reflection of this hard t***h.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

[quote=Parky60]In Response to Possibility of Being Denied Communion, Pelosi Implies She's God
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a professed Roman Catholic, has been no stranger to controversy during her years in office. Now, with a fellow Catholic occupying the White House, their pro-a******n stance is raising serious concerns among the higher-ups in the Roman Catholic Church.

Last week, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone — Pelosi’s bishop — suggested that those who support a******n should be denied Holy Communion. In response, Pelosi said she can do wh**ever she wants.

“I think I can use my own judgment on that, but I’m pleased with what the Vatican put out on that subject,” she said when questioned by a reporter.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is set to meet next month with plans to v**e on Communion guidelines. Some bishops have pushed to bar pro-a******n public officials from receiving the sacrament. The head of the Vatican’s doctrine office issued a warning to the conference to deliberate carefully to avoid sowing division.

It’s no surprise that Pelosi is “pleased” with this pronouncement, as it allows her to hide behind a high-minded concern for the unity of the church. However, it does not erase the line where acceptance ends and conviction begin.

Christians are to pray for unity, but not at the expense of biblical values. We must recognize that what we have in common is sin, and along with it the need to repent and take responsibility for that sin.

The good news is that no one is beyond forgiveness. But we cannot condone sin and error for the sake of avoiding division.

Cordileone made clear that Pelosi is engaging in sin by promoting a******n, but he did not say that those who support a******n are irredeemable. Rather, he invited them to turn and accept traditional Christian teaching.

“If you find that you are unwilling or unable to abandon your advocacy for a******n, you should not come forward to receive Holy Communion,” he said in a letter.

“Please stop pretending that advocating for or practicing a grave moral evil — one that snuffs out an innocent human life, one that denies a fundamental human right (or practicing homosexuality kemmer) — is somehow compatible with the Catholic faith [i](remember kemmer you’re a Catholic)]/i]. It is not. Please return home to the fullness of your Catholic faith. We await you with open arms to welcome you back.”

While division in the church is lamentable, sometimes following Christ means telling sinners what they may not want to hear like you kemmer.

We cannot water down Christianity so as not to offend people or bend the teachings of the Bible to fit the backward trends of modernity.

Hey kemmer, LISTEN UP!
What’s more, Pelosi’s suggestion that she can decide for herself whether her actions are compatible with her faith turns her into a church of one. If only God can judge, then let him. We do not get to decide what is and is not a sin.

Pelosi’s rhetoric effectively puts her in the place of God. But she doesn’t make the rules — he does.

Being a Christian involves correcting sinful behavior and beliefs, not justifying them. We must change rather than demand the church give way to our sin.

Barring a******n supporters (and practicing homosexuals)from partaking in Communion is a reflection of this hard t***h.[/quote]

It's too bad the GOP can't comprehend that message.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Another “Hard T***h” based on boogiemen rules.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

To poorly paraphrase so someone of your low mental capacity can understand it: The stupid man has said in his heart there is no boogeyman.

Wonttakeitanymore

Amen

Wonttakeitanymore

Aptly put!

kemmer

The bishops can rant and rave all they want, but pro-choice Catholics will continue receiving communion whenever they want. The bishops tried that trick for Catholics who practiced artificial birth control, and that was ignored too. Cardinal Gregory of Washington DC has said Biden is free to receive communion in any church in his archdiocese.

Cordileone is a fierce opponent of gay rights, and in 2018, 100 Bay Area Catholic leaders sent a letter to Pope Francis asking him to remove Cordileone form the Archdiocese of San Francisco.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

I repeat for those of you -- like you -- who are deaf...you have eyes but cannot see, ears but cannot hear.

Hey kemmer, LISTEN UP!
What’s more, Pelosi’s suggestion that she can decide for herself whether her actions are compatible with her faith turns her into a church of one. If only God can judge, then let him. We do not get to decide what is and is not a sin.

Pelosi’s rhetoric effectively puts her in the place of God. But she doesn’t make the rules — he does.

Being a Christian involves correcting sinful behavior and beliefs, not justifying them. We must change rather than demand the church give way to our sin.

Barring a******n supporters (and practicing homosexuals)from partaking in Communion is a reflection of this hard t***h.

kemmer

Hahaha…. What is the priest going to say to each communicant, ”The Body of Christ, are you pro-choice and/or gay?” 😂

Rose42

Irrelevant. Anyone can receive communion without the pastor knowing whats going on. Its whats in their heart that matters. If they are wilfully sinning or condoning sin then they should not receive communion

kemmer

Nope. No more than millions of other Catholics who ignore the rules against artificial birth control.

kemmer

Ignoring a bishop’s rule does not necessarily constitute sin. Jesus didn’t say squat against a******n OR homosexuality.

Rose42

Since I’m not Catholic I agree with you on that point.

Radiance3

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I hope what I am hearing is not true, that kemmer is a Catholic? How could that be? kemmer violates every word of God as he justifies his own actions.

Likewise Pelosi's stance on a******n is full denial of God's words to His people.
Follow the 10 Commandments of God. Love God above all things is number 1. and the 2nd one is "Love thy neighbor as thyself." These two cover the 10 Commandments of God. Cause when you love your neighbor as yourself, you don't do wrong to them. You don't steal, don't murder, don't bear false witness, don't commit adultery, don't covet, honor your father and mother.

Pelosi behaves like God or above God. She totally ignored the 1st Commandment of God. "Love God above all things with all your heart, with all your mind, with all your soul, and with all your strength.

Likewise kemmer don't understand how to be a Christian. He thinks that men could define how they could behave on anything that is within their system that justifies their behavior. That God's words are irrelevant?

Many Bishops objected to Biden and Pelosi sharing the Holy Communion. They held the 1st conference meeting but majority Bishops however had justified this political rhetoric cause it might affect the Catholic church as a whole. A letter from the Vatican stated that.

When Pelosi and Biden are allowed to take. I think that is an a*********n to God. I don't agree with them taking the Holy Communion.

A second conference of Catholic Bishops will follow after this 1st one.
I don't know what could happen. Perhaps if we could have another Pope, when Pope Francis retires, something is different.

I truly believe that Biden and Pelosi must never be allowed to participate in the Holy Sacrament. It puts so much guilt on me allowing these politicians exemptions to the rule of God. As a Minister for the Holy Sacrament for a number of years, I feel guilty that we are giving political exemptions over ruling the Words of God.

But the Vatican seemed to have weighed out the pros, and adversities that could happen. They have taken into consideration many factors that could adversely destroy the Catholic Church if the highest office of the US government is denied.
But I think the power of politics could be hindrance to the Catholic faith.

I am sure there are among the Catholics who are still not able to comply with the strict adherence to the Catholic faith. I think that is hypocrisy. kemmer is one of them if he is a Catholic. I hope this is not true. Those who violate are mostly Catholic democrats.

Here are the Words of God during the Last Supper. Please read carefully and think.
Jesus well aware that He was going to die for our sins. His last words with the Apostles during the Last Supper was the most important.
This is where Jesus left the Covenant with His People, thru His Apostles.

Luke 22:19-20.
19 And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

20 In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. "
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1 Corinthians 11:24-25-26
Sharing in the Lord's Supper
24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

25In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
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26For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.

While those Catholic democrats deny the rule of God, and as they march down the Altar taking the Holy Sacrament.

kemmer

It’s kinda sad to watch Radiance3 again frothing at the mouth against things she obviously doesn’t understand. 🙄