I Think The Right Is Smart Enough To Know The Difference Between V**er Suppression And Fraud...I'll Prove It: Defenses for republican v**er suppression make people sound really stupid...

woodguru

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make people sound really stupid, it's because they are defending something with mindless rhetoric about protecting against fraud in ways that does not make any sense in the context of doing a thing about fraud.

Here is proof, and the proof comes when there can only be one answer without sounding like a complete and utter fool.

In the overall context, republicans are making it harder for people to v**e, which does nothing about fraud if there is any fraud, it only creates a situation where less people will v**e. Make people have to stand in line for six or eight hours in any rural districts and see how well that goes over.

So here's my proof people are smart enough to know the difference:
...Infringing on souls to the polls...churches have long provided t***sportation for church members to polling stations to v**e. They have made it a social thing, they have made it a big deal to exercise their right to v**e. So republicans decide they need to screw with the hours that polling stations are open on Sundays, there being no other explanation than that it cuts off this easier way for these groups of largely black people to v**e.
The super simple question that has one answer is to ask if this cutting v****g hours has anything to do with preventing fraud? The question that could get the convoluted and truly ridiculous RW rhetoric would be to ask the leading question, how does thois have anything to do with preventing fraud?
...there is shortening hours
...shortening the days of early v****g, which by the way makes the validation and counting harder
...eliminating polling stations in super heavily populated areas when more not less would be the intelligent thing
...reducing drop boxes (instead of creating more) where b****ts can be put rather than depend on the mail. This is one of those things that comes down to the registration and verification process of who is eligible to v**e and checking their name off. It doesn't matter how many drop boxes you have if fraud is going to be caught when the b****t is cross referenced to the registration rolls. Thousands of fraudulent b****ts could be dumped in drop boxes but they will go nowhere as they are validated before being counted.

There is intentionally making it harder to v**e, which has nothing to do with improving the eligibility or integrity of who is v****g, which is where all the focus is...or improvements could be made in the system of registering v**ers and checking the integrity of the list.

This country has a really simple basis for being eligible to v**e, if you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e, it's that simple. Put wh**ever effort is necessary to make sure that the list of eligible v**ers is kept up to date, use cross data bank referencing to corroborate and remove names that shouldn't be there for an array of reasons, build the list of eligible v**ers the same way through corroborating databases.

It is then easy enough to verify that a b****t that is submitted any possible way checks off the list of eligibility, Send a mail in b****t to every single eligible v**er, the person has any number of ways to turn it in, all of which will be referenced against the v**er list, and checked off to where any attempt for that person's v**er status to be used more than once f**gs the b****ts so that fraud can be looked for.

Republicans do not want anything to do with making it easier for more eligible people to v**e, that is obvious, and anyone defending v**er suppression knows it. We see too many districts that have more democrats registered than republicans, yet they act outraged that dems win, and hold to a fantasy that that is not possible. That is numbers, that is democracy...when you have more people on the other side they will win, and you can't reject that and say that your minority should have won when it didn't. You can't keep doing recounts until you do one that is partisan enough to "find" the results you want.

Republicans need to make it easier to v**e, while working on e******n integrity if they think there ios fraud, which the reality is they do not actually believe that at all. They are setting it up to be able to reject e******n outcomes they don't like, which is nothing more than a soft c**p.

American Vet

woodguru wrote:

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make people sound really stupid, it's because they are defending something with mindless rhetoric about protecting against fraud in ways that does not make any sense in the context of doing a thing about fraud.

Here is proof, and the proof comes when there can only be one answer without sounding like a complete and utter fool.

In the overall context, republicans are making it harder for people to v**e, which does nothing about fraud if there is any fraud, it only creates a situation where less people will v**e. Make people have to stand in line for six or eight hours in any rural districts and see how well that goes over.

So here's my proof people are smart enough to know the difference:
...Infringing on souls to the polls...churches have long provided t***sportation for church members to polling stations to v**e. They have made it a social thing, they have made it a big deal to exercise their right to v**e. So republicans decide they need to screw with the hours that polling stations are open on Sundays, there being no other explanation than that it cuts off this easier way for these groups of largely black people to v**e.
The super simple question that has one answer is to ask if this cutting v****g hours has anything to do with preventing fraud? The question that could get the convoluted and truly ridiculous RW rhetoric would be to ask the leading question, how does thois have anything to do with preventing fraud?
...there is shortening hours
...shortening the days of early v****g, which by the way makes the validation and counting harder
...eliminating polling stations in super heavily populated areas when more not less would be the intelligent thing
...reducing drop boxes (instead of creating more) where b****ts can be put rather than depend on the mail. This is one of those things that comes down to the registration and verification process of who is eligible to v**e and checking their name off. It doesn't matter how many drop boxes you have if fraud is going to be caught when the b****t is cross referenced to the registration rolls. Thousands of fraudulent b****ts could be dumped in drop boxes but they will go nowhere as they are validated before being counted.

There is intentionally making it harder to v**e, which has nothing to do with improving the eligibility or integrity of who is v****g, which is where all the focus is...or improvements could be made in the system of registering v**ers and checking the integrity of the list.

This country has a really simple basis for being eligible to v**e, if you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e, it's that simple. Put wh**ever effort is necessary to make sure that the list of eligible v**ers is kept up to date, use cross data bank referencing to corroborate and remove names that shouldn't be there for an array of reasons, build the list of eligible v**ers the same way through corroborating databases.

It is then easy enough to verify that a b****t that is submitted any possible way checks off the list of eligibility, Send a mail in b****t to every single eligible v**er, the person has any number of ways to turn it in, all of which will be referenced against the v**er list, and checked off to where any attempt for that person's v**er status to be used more than once f**gs the b****ts so that fraud can be looked for.

Republicans do not want anything to do with making it easier for more eligible people to v**e, that is obvious, and anyone defending v**er suppression knows it. We see too many districts that have more democrats registered than republicans, yet they act outraged that dems win, and hold to a fantasy that that is not possible. That is numbers, that is democracy...when you have more people on the other side they will win, and you can't reject that and say that your minority should have won when it didn't. You can't keep doing recounts until you do one that is partisan enough to "find" the results you want.

Republicans need to make it easier to v**e, while working on e******n integrity if they think there ios fraud, which the reality is they do not actually believe that at all. They are setting it up to be able to reject e******n outcomes they don't like, which is nothing more than a soft c**p.

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make peo... (show quote)

Lot's of ELWN rhetoric - but you offer no substantiation (aka 'facts') of your opinions.

Smedley_buzkill

woodguru wrote:

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make people sound really stupid, it's because they are defending something with mindless rhetoric about protecting against fraud in ways that does not make any sense in the context of doing a thing about fraud.

Here is proof, and the proof comes when there can only be one answer without sounding like a complete and utter fool.

In the overall context, republicans are making it harder for people to v**e, which does nothing about fraud if there is any fraud, it only creates a situation where less people will v**e. Make people have to stand in line for six or eight hours in any rural districts and see how well that goes over.

So here's my proof people are smart enough to know the difference:
...Infringing on souls to the polls...churches have long provided t***sportation for church members to polling stations to v**e. They have made it a social thing, they have made it a big deal to exercise their right to v**e. So republicans decide they need to screw with the hours that polling stations are open on Sundays, there being no other explanation than that it cuts off this easier way for these groups of largely black people to v**e.
The super simple question that has one answer is to ask if this cutting v****g hours has anything to do with preventing fraud? The question that could get the convoluted and truly ridiculous RW rhetoric would be to ask the leading question, how does thois have anything to do with preventing fraud?
...there is shortening hours
...shortening the days of early v****g, which by the way makes the validation and counting harder
...eliminating polling stations in super heavily populated areas when more not less would be the intelligent thing
...reducing drop boxes (instead of creating more) where b****ts can be put rather than depend on the mail. This is one of those things that comes down to the registration and verification process of who is eligible to v**e and checking their name off. It doesn't matter how many drop boxes you have if fraud is going to be caught when the b****t is cross referenced to the registration rolls. Thousands of fraudulent b****ts could be dumped in drop boxes but they will go nowhere as they are validated before being counted.

There is intentionally making it harder to v**e, which has nothing to do with improving the eligibility or integrity of who is v****g, which is where all the focus is...or improvements could be made in the system of registering v**ers and checking the integrity of the list.

This country has a really simple basis for being eligible to v**e, if you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e, it's that simple. Put wh**ever effort is necessary to make sure that the list of eligible v**ers is kept up to date, use cross data bank referencing to corroborate and remove names that shouldn't be there for an array of reasons, build the list of eligible v**ers the same way through corroborating databases.

It is then easy enough to verify that a b****t that is submitted any possible way checks off the list of eligibility, Send a mail in b****t to every single eligible v**er, the person has any number of ways to turn it in, all of which will be referenced against the v**er list, and checked off to where any attempt for that person's v**er status to be used more than once f**gs the b****ts so that fraud can be looked for.

Republicans do not want anything to do with making it easier for more eligible people to v**e, that is obvious, and anyone defending v**er suppression knows it. We see too many districts that have more democrats registered than republicans, yet they act outraged that dems win, and hold to a fantasy that that is not possible. That is numbers, that is democracy...when you have more people on the other side they will win, and you can't reject that and say that your minority should have won when it didn't. You can't keep doing recounts until you do one that is partisan enough to "find" the results you want.

Republicans need to make it easier to v**e, while working on e******n integrity if they think there ios fraud, which the reality is they do not actually believe that at all. They are setting it up to be able to reject e******n outcomes they don't like, which is nothing more than a soft c**p.

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make peo... (show quote)

If you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e provided you
1). Have ID to prove who you are.
2). Live in the precinct in which you are v****g.
3). Are not a prohibited person. (i.e. convicted felon)
4). Bothered to go and r******r to v**e.
The PA legislature requested their e*******l v**es be recalled after they discovered about 200.000 more v**es than they had v**ers registered. Most of these were mail in b****ts.
In GA, the LT Governor refused to let the legislature reconvene to re-examine the b****t certification after irregularities were discovered. This is why the Lt Governor is resigning and the GA Sec/State is in hot water, and the Governor is facing serious problems in his ree******n.
In GA, counting of b****ts continued after observers were sent home, ostensibly for a break in a water main that never happened. Trump went from winning to losing during this time. How convenient. There are now allegations of mimeographed mail in b****ts for Biden, and lots of uncreased mail in b****ts for Biden. In GA, Mail in b****ts must be folded and placed in the envelope provided to be counted. They will not fit in the envelope unless they are folded twice.
In several states, mail in b****ts were unbelievably stacked in favor of Biden/Harris. Far beyond what would be reasonable.
In Colorado and Washington, Mail in b****ts seem to work just fine. That is because they were implemented years ago, with plenty of safeguards in slow e******n years in states with small populations, not thrown together at the last minute in the busiest e******n in our country's history.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

American Vet wrote:

Lot's of ELWN rhetoric - but you offer no substantiation (aka 'facts') of your opinions.

Facts again ???
You can’t keep hiding there.
Say what you mean.

American Vet

Milosia2 wrote:

Facts again ???
You can’t keep hiding there.
Say what you mean.

I know. Facts are pesky little things, aren't they.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

If you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e... (show quote)

As letter carrier, I have delivered hundreds, or maybe thousands of mail in b****ts, and picked up the outgoing b****ts.
They are folded when received, and re-folded to be placed in the return envelope.
I dunno, maybe they ironed em?

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

If you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e... (show quote)

Where is your right to v**e listed ?

Smedley_buzkill

woodguru wrote:

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make people sound really stupid, it's because they are defending something with mindless rhetoric about protecting against fraud in ways that does not make any sense in the context of doing a thing about fraud.

Here is proof, and the proof comes when there can only be one answer without sounding like a complete and utter fool.

In the overall context, republicans are making it harder for people to v**e, which does nothing about fraud if there is any fraud, it only creates a situation where less people will v**e. Make people have to stand in line for six or eight hours in any rural districts and see how well that goes over.

So here's my proof people are smart enough to know the difference:
...Infringing on souls to the polls...churches have long provided t***sportation for church members to polling stations to v**e. They have made it a social thing, they have made it a big deal to exercise their right to v**e. So republicans decide they need to screw with the hours that polling stations are open on Sundays, there being no other explanation than that it cuts off this easier way for these groups of largely black people to v**e.
The super simple question that has one answer is to ask if this cutting v****g hours has anything to do with preventing fraud? The question that could get the convoluted and truly ridiculous RW rhetoric would be to ask the leading question, how does thois have anything to do with preventing fraud?
...there is shortening hours
...shortening the days of early v****g, which by the way makes the validation and counting harder
...eliminating polling stations in super heavily populated areas when more not less would be the intelligent thing
...reducing drop boxes (instead of creating more) where b****ts can be put rather than depend on the mail. This is one of those things that comes down to the registration and verification process of who is eligible to v**e and checking their name off. It doesn't matter how many drop boxes you have if fraud is going to be caught when the b****t is cross referenced to the registration rolls. Thousands of fraudulent b****ts could be dumped in drop boxes but they will go nowhere as they are validated before being counted.

There is intentionally making it harder to v**e, which has nothing to do with improving the eligibility or integrity of who is v****g, which is where all the focus is...or improvements could be made in the system of registering v**ers and checking the integrity of the list.

This country has a really simple basis for being eligible to v**e, if you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e, it's that simple. Put wh**ever effort is necessary to make sure that the list of eligible v**ers is kept up to date, use cross data bank referencing to corroborate and remove names that shouldn't be there for an array of reasons, build the list of eligible v**ers the same way through corroborating databases.

It is then easy enough to verify that a b****t that is submitted any possible way checks off the list of eligibility, Send a mail in b****t to every single eligible v**er, the person has any number of ways to turn it in, all of which will be referenced against the v**er list, and checked off to where any attempt for that person's v**er status to be used more than once f**gs the b****ts so that fraud can be looked for.

Republicans do not want anything to do with making it easier for more eligible people to v**e, that is obvious, and anyone defending v**er suppression knows it. We see too many districts that have more democrats registered than republicans, yet they act outraged that dems win, and hold to a fantasy that that is not possible. That is numbers, that is democracy...when you have more people on the other side they will win, and you can't reject that and say that your minority should have won when it didn't. You can't keep doing recounts until you do one that is partisan enough to "find" the results you want.

Republicans need to make it easier to v**e, while working on e******n integrity if they think there ios fraud, which the reality is they do not actually believe that at all. They are setting it up to be able to reject e******n outcomes they don't like, which is nothing more than a soft c**p.

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make peo... (show quote)

The Right is smart enough to realize the difference between suppression and fraud. The problem lies in the fact that the left is not smart enough to differentiate.

American Vet

Milosia2 wrote:

Where is your right to v**e listed ?

Article I; section 4

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

woodguru wrote:

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make people sound really stupid, it's because they are defending something with mindless rhetoric about protecting against fraud in ways that does not make any sense in the context of doing a thing about fraud.

Here is proof, and the proof comes when there can only be one answer without sounding like a complete and utter fool.

In the overall context, republicans are making it harder for people to v**e, which does nothing about fraud if there is any fraud, it only creates a situation where less people will v**e. Make people have to stand in line for six or eight hours in any rural districts and see how well that goes over.

So here's my proof people are smart enough to know the difference:
...Infringing on souls to the polls...churches have long provided t***sportation for church members to polling stations to v**e. They have made it a social thing, they have made it a big deal to exercise their right to v**e. So republicans decide they need to screw with the hours that polling stations are open on Sundays, there being no other explanation than that it cuts off this easier way for these groups of largely black people to v**e.
The super simple question that has one answer is to ask if this cutting v****g hours has anything to do with preventing fraud? The question that could get the convoluted and truly ridiculous RW rhetoric would be to ask the leading question, how does thois have anything to do with preventing fraud?
...there is shortening hours
...shortening the days of early v****g, which by the way makes the validation and counting harder
...eliminating polling stations in super heavily populated areas when more not less would be the intelligent thing
...reducing drop boxes (instead of creating more) where b****ts can be put rather than depend on the mail. This is one of those things that comes down to the registration and verification process of who is eligible to v**e and checking their name off. It doesn't matter how many drop boxes you have if fraud is going to be caught when the b****t is cross referenced to the registration rolls. Thousands of fraudulent b****ts could be dumped in drop boxes but they will go nowhere as they are validated before being counted.

There is intentionally making it harder to v**e, which has nothing to do with improving the eligibility or integrity of who is v****g, which is where all the focus is...or improvements could be made in the system of registering v**ers and checking the integrity of the list.

This country has a really simple basis for being eligible to v**e, if you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e, it's that simple. Put wh**ever effort is necessary to make sure that the list of eligible v**ers is kept up to date, use cross data bank referencing to corroborate and remove names that shouldn't be there for an array of reasons, build the list of eligible v**ers the same way through corroborating databases.

It is then easy enough to verify that a b****t that is submitted any possible way checks off the list of eligibility, Send a mail in b****t to every single eligible v**er, the person has any number of ways to turn it in, all of which will be referenced against the v**er list, and checked off to where any attempt for that person's v**er status to be used more than once f**gs the b****ts so that fraud can be looked for.

Republicans do not want anything to do with making it easier for more eligible people to v**e, that is obvious, and anyone defending v**er suppression knows it. We see too many districts that have more democrats registered than republicans, yet they act outraged that dems win, and hold to a fantasy that that is not possible. That is numbers, that is democracy...when you have more people on the other side they will win, and you can't reject that and say that your minority should have won when it didn't. You can't keep doing recounts until you do one that is partisan enough to "find" the results you want.

Republicans need to make it easier to v**e, while working on e******n integrity if they think there ios fraud, which the reality is they do not actually believe that at all. They are setting it up to be able to reject e******n outcomes they don't like, which is nothing more than a soft c**p.

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make peo... (show quote)

I don't think you're smart enough to discern anything How does that sound woodguru?

Wonttakeitanymore

woodguru wrote:

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make people sound really stupid, it's because they are defending something with mindless rhetoric about protecting against fraud in ways that does not make any sense in the context of doing a thing about fraud.

Here is proof, and the proof comes when there can only be one answer without sounding like a complete and utter fool.

In the overall context, republicans are making it harder for people to v**e, which does nothing about fraud if there is any fraud, it only creates a situation where less people will v**e. Make people have to stand in line for six or eight hours in any rural districts and see how well that goes over.

So here's my proof people are smart enough to know the difference:
...Infringing on souls to the polls...churches have long provided t***sportation for church members to polling stations to v**e. They have made it a social thing, they have made it a big deal to exercise their right to v**e. So republicans decide they need to screw with the hours that polling stations are open on Sundays, there being no other explanation than that it cuts off this easier way for these groups of largely black people to v**e.
The super simple question that has one answer is to ask if this cutting v****g hours has anything to do with preventing fraud? The question that could get the convoluted and truly ridiculous RW rhetoric would be to ask the leading question, how does thois have anything to do with preventing fraud?
...there is shortening hours
...shortening the days of early v****g, which by the way makes the validation and counting harder
...eliminating polling stations in super heavily populated areas when more not less would be the intelligent thing
...reducing drop boxes (instead of creating more) where b****ts can be put rather than depend on the mail. This is one of those things that comes down to the registration and verification process of who is eligible to v**e and checking their name off. It doesn't matter how many drop boxes you have if fraud is going to be caught when the b****t is cross referenced to the registration rolls. Thousands of fraudulent b****ts could be dumped in drop boxes but they will go nowhere as they are validated before being counted.

There is intentionally making it harder to v**e, which has nothing to do with improving the eligibility or integrity of who is v****g, which is where all the focus is...or improvements could be made in the system of registering v**ers and checking the integrity of the list.

This country has a really simple basis for being eligible to v**e, if you are a US citizen you have the right to v**e, it's that simple. Put wh**ever effort is necessary to make sure that the list of eligible v**ers is kept up to date, use cross data bank referencing to corroborate and remove names that shouldn't be there for an array of reasons, build the list of eligible v**ers the same way through corroborating databases.

It is then easy enough to verify that a b****t that is submitted any possible way checks off the list of eligibility, Send a mail in b****t to every single eligible v**er, the person has any number of ways to turn it in, all of which will be referenced against the v**er list, and checked off to where any attempt for that person's v**er status to be used more than once f**gs the b****ts so that fraud can be looked for.

Republicans do not want anything to do with making it easier for more eligible people to v**e, that is obvious, and anyone defending v**er suppression knows it. We see too many districts that have more democrats registered than republicans, yet they act outraged that dems win, and hold to a fantasy that that is not possible. That is numbers, that is democracy...when you have more people on the other side they will win, and you can't reject that and say that your minority should have won when it didn't. You can't keep doing recounts until you do one that is partisan enough to "find" the results you want.

Republicans need to make it easier to v**e, while working on e******n integrity if they think there ios fraud, which the reality is they do not actually believe that at all. They are setting it up to be able to reject e******n outcomes they don't like, which is nothing more than a soft c**p.

Defenses for republican v**er suppression make peo... (show quote)

That’s right we are to smart to fall for the lefts bullshat!

Wonttakeitanymore

Milosia2 wrote:

Facts again ???
You can’t keep hiding there.
Say what you mean.

U don’t know facts open ur eyes!!

Wonttakeitanymore

Milosia2 wrote:

Where is your right to v**e listed ?

In the constitution!