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May 6, 2021 11:10:22   #
fullspinzoo
 
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html

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May 6, 2021 11:30:52   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html


So the article opens with these two sentences...

"United States v***r f***d is a nationwide crime perpetrated locally, mostly by Democrats. Republicans either do not do it or when they do, they get caught."

Now first of all... how does that make any sense? "Mostly by Democrats... When Republicans do it they get caught." Does anyone see the stupidity in this statement? So, what..? Democrats do it, they just don't get caught? Then how the FK do you know they did it?

Maybe this was a clumsy attempt to hold off the fact that most of the v***r f***d convictions on record actually involve Republicans, not Democrats... "Dughhhh-yeah... Because when Republicans do it, they get caught."

I'm just...
astounded.

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May 6, 2021 11:43:38   #
Liberty Tree
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html


Democrats wanted every signature checked on the petition to recall California Governor Newsom but do not want signatures checked in general e******ns.

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May 6, 2021 12:03:43   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html


States are responsible for that...........................unless you're now willing to accept Federal oversight.

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May 6, 2021 13:54:50   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html


Trying to read this article because I honestly want to know about this national database idea. But the very next sentence... OMG.

"It is no coincidence that only Democrats fight v**er ID laws, b****t audits in Maricopa County, and investigations in New Hampshire."
No it's not a coincidence. Three separate situations each with their own variables.

B****t audits in Maricopa County... How many times do we have to do this? How much tax money are we going to continue to spend on recounts. Should we just allocate a budget and keep recounting until somehow, someway the Republicans come out ahead? Are we just stalling for time while Giuliani tries to think of another plan to over turn the 2020 e******n?

Investigations in New Hampshire... So the recount shows a difference, but not enough to overturn the e******n or to suggest "massive v***r f***d". So what would the point of an investigation be? It's just as possible that the difference results from unintentional errors. It happens. But again, it's not enough to overturn the e******n. So why pursue it? How much time and effort does the state have to spend on this if there isn't really any point? How much tax money do you want them to spend on this goosechase?

Trump-fans act like v***r f***d has never happened before. It happens every single time there's an e******n. There was v***r f***d in 2016 when Trump was elected by the EC, but it wasn't enough to overturn the results and the Democrats conceded because part of being a democracy is accepting the results of an e******n that doesn't go your way.

Trump seems unable to do this and that's okay - psychopaths tend to obsess and spoiled brats never learn how to concede. But the Republic doesn't have to listen to his crap anymore. So let's move on.

Photo ID: Let's start with the Constitution on this one...

The 24th Amendment says:
The right of citizens of the United States to v**e in any primary or other e******n for President or Vice President, for e*****rs for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

This amendment was ratified in 1964 because southern states were using poll tax as a way to limit v****g to those only who could afford the poll tax. On average this had the effect of taking black communities, who were less likely to afford it, out of the democratic process.

One of the problem people are having with Photo IDs is that it costs money to get them. Even those photo ID's that issued for free, rarely are, because you still have to pay for copies of birth certificates etc.. so the effect is the same as a poll tax and if history in the obviously r****t south is any indication, this is exactly the effect proponents are looking for.

The other point I want to make is that most citizens already have government-issued IDs, so why not use those? Most states will accept a driver's licence or a passport. Why do we need another one?

OK, so - the national database that you guys want so much... The author of the article states the objective quite clearly.

The goal is a crowd-sourced national database, visible to anyone, showing who v**es, what their addresses are, cross searched against death records, change-of-address files, UPS mailboxes, and a dozen other available data sources, going back as far as digital records exist.

Crowd sourced? That means anyone can enter anything. That is literally what "crowd sourced" means. Did you not know that? Crowd sourced databases might be okay for things like voluntary surveys etc... but for tracking citizens? For sharing our names and addresses to anyone with an iPhone? Are you FKG kidding me?

The golden rule of democracy is one v**e per person, not a complete profile of each citizens' private data. A database that exposes the addresses of everyone that v**es to anyone with an iPhone is NOT a good idea. Think of something else.

Next!

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May 6, 2021 14:26:04   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html



Great Idea. We could put the home office at mar a lago.

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May 6, 2021 15:28:28   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html


Trump & his crew would be at the top of the fraud list

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May 6, 2021 17:22:05   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Great Idea. We could put the home office at mar a lago.


I'm curious about the dynamics at mar a lago...

From my perspective, I never saw Trump as any kind of visionary. He's more of a reactive personality and for that reason I always thought he'd do better as a facilitator than a leader. But his ego narrows down his options leaving him with commander-type positions where he can facilitate directives AND still be the big cheese. This is probably why so many two-bit dictators share the same traits.

Fortunately for Trump, he was born into a wealthy family business where he learned to command legal teams.

When he was elected he was taking on a different kind of command. He became a commander of military forces and government workers but... just not a very good one. He promised to bring the troops home and didn't. He shut the government down, leaving his workers without pay just to make a stupid point to Congress and when the People impeached him, what did he do? He sent legal teams in to defend himself.

Every argument in that trial was between an elected official, representing The People and and a private lawyer, representing Trump.

So, Donny is obviously a commander of lawyers, that's his modus operandi.

Back to mar a lago... It, looks suspiciously like a command center where the media sort of focuses on the stories about the legal challenges to the e******n and there seems to be a lot of money involved and the legal teams are in Arizona, New Hampshire, Florida...

I have to ask... Are The People under attack and just don't realize it because the assault weapon is money?

And why would Trump want to be back the White House again? He h**es it there. So is that just part of the directive that Trump is facilitating? If so, where is this directive coming from?

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May 9, 2021 19:02:02   #
GmanTerry
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats wanted every signature checked on the petition to recall California Governor Newsom but do not want signatures checked in general e******ns.




Semper Fi

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May 9, 2021 19:10:28   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
straightUp wrote:
Trying to read this article because I honestly want to know about this national database idea. But the very next sentence... OMG.

"It is no coincidence that only Democrats fight v**er ID laws, b****t audits in Maricopa County, and investigations in New Hampshire."
No it's not a coincidence. Three separate situations each with their own variables.

B****t audits in Maricopa County... How many times do we have to do this? How much tax money are we going to continue to spend on recounts. Should we just allocate a budget and keep recounting until somehow, someway the Republicans come out ahead? Are we just stalling for time while Giuliani tries to think of another plan to over turn the 2020 e******n?

Investigations in New Hampshire... So the recount shows a difference, but not enough to overturn the e******n or to suggest "massive v***r f***d". So what would the point of an investigation be? It's just as possible that the difference results from unintentional errors. It happens. But again, it's not enough to overturn the e******n. So why pursue it? How much time and effort does the state have to spend on this if there isn't really any point? How much tax money do you want them to spend on this goosechase?

Trump-fans act like v***r f***d has never happened before. It happens every single time there's an e******n. There was v***r f***d in 2016 when Trump was elected by the EC, but it wasn't enough to overturn the results and the Democrats conceded because part of being a democracy is accepting the results of an e******n that doesn't go your way.

Trump seems unable to do this and that's okay - psychopaths tend to obsess and spoiled brats never learn how to concede. But the Republic doesn't have to listen to his crap anymore. So let's move on.

Photo ID: Let's start with the Constitution on this one...

The 24th Amendment says:
The right of citizens of the United States to v**e in any primary or other e******n for President or Vice President, for e*****rs for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

This amendment was ratified in 1964 because southern states were using poll tax as a way to limit v****g to those only who could afford the poll tax. On average this had the effect of taking black communities, who were less likely to afford it, out of the democratic process.

One of the problem people are having with Photo IDs is that it costs money to get them. Even those photo ID's that issued for free, rarely are, because you still have to pay for copies of birth certificates etc.. so the effect is the same as a poll tax and if history in the obviously r****t south is any indication, this is exactly the effect proponents are looking for.

The other point I want to make is that most citizens already have government-issued IDs, so why not use those? Most states will accept a driver's licence or a passport. Why do we need another one?

OK, so - the national database that you guys want so much... The author of the article states the objective quite clearly.

The goal is a crowd-sourced national database, visible to anyone, showing who v**es, what their addresses are, cross searched against death records, change-of-address files, UPS mailboxes, and a dozen other available data sources, going back as far as digital records exist.

Crowd sourced? That means anyone can enter anything. That is literally what "crowd sourced" means. Did you not know that? Crowd sourced databases might be okay for things like voluntary surveys etc... but for tracking citizens? For sharing our names and addresses to anyone with an iPhone? Are you FKG kidding me?

The golden rule of democracy is one v**e per person, not a complete profile of each citizens' private data. A database that exposes the addresses of everyone that v**es to anyone with an iPhone is NOT a good idea. Think of something else.

Next!
Trying to read this article because I honestly wan... (show quote)


Good points well spoken.

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May 10, 2021 10:36:09   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Good points well spoken.


Thanks.

I wasn't expecting any response from the right. It seems once you get past 200 words, they fall off. LOL

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May 10, 2021 13:06:32   #
fullspinzoo
 
straightUp wrote:
Thanks.

I wasn't expecting any response from the right. It seems once you get past 200 words, they fall off. LOL


Trust me. It doesn't take even 200 words to pick up on your socialist/Marxist/c****e liberal bulls**t.

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May 10, 2021 13:10:04   #
fullspinzoo
 
straightUp wrote:
Thanks.

I wasn't expecting any response from the right. It seems once you get past 200 words, they fall off. LOL


We find you boring. LOL

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May 10, 2021 18:48:58   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Trust me. It doesn't take even 200 words to pick up on your socialist/Marxist/c****e liberal bulls**t.

LOL... dude, they got you so triggered they can have you believing your own mom is N**i in less than 3 memes.


fullspinzoo wrote:
We find you boring. LOL

Yes, I know... LOL, those short attention spans are a hallmark of the right.

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May 10, 2021 19:45:57   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
The Democrats would never go for something so simple, respectable, and ethical, something that might help make our e******ns be even more respected, virtuous than they were before. Way too above board. If it's not corrupt, underhanded, sleight of hand, they don't want anything to do with it. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/needed_a_national_e******n_fraud_database.html


That is the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Nobody has found any v***r f***d yet.
Why would a data base help that ?
I’d rather see a National Bigfoot Location Database.
Or a monsters under your bed database.

Stupidest crap I ever heard. What is troubling is the people who believe in their minds this is a good idea.
The ones with real monsters under their beds !

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