You may not be ready for this.
You may not be ready for this.
IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE S***ES
We've all been taught the horrors of the African s***e trade. It's in all the school books and in plenty of Hollywood movies and has been shoved down our throats since Obama took office. But for some reason the largest group of s***es in the British Colonies in the 17th Century doesn't get mentioned at all: the Irish!
They came as s***es: human cargo t***sported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.
Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. S***e owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
We don't really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African s***e trade. But are we talking about African s***ery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to ens***e the Irish. Britain's Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one's next-door neighbor.
The Irish s***e trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as s***es to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners is sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid-1600s, the Irish were the main s***es sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish s***es.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early s***es to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were k**led by the English and another 300,000 were sold as s***es. Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade.
Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain's solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as s***es in the West Indies, Virginia, and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.
Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also t***sported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as s***es to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish s***es what they truly were: S***es. They'll come up with terms like Indentured Servants to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish s***es were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African s***e trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African s***es, not tainted with the stain of the h**ed Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African s***es were very expensive during the late 1600s (£50 Sterling). Irish s***es came cheap (no more than £5 Sterling). If a planter whipped, branded, or beat an Irish s***e to death, it was never a crime. Death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than k*****g a more expensive African.
The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of s***es were themselves s***es, which increased the size of the master's free workforce.
Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain s***es of her master. Thus, Irish mothers, even with this newfound emancipation, would seldom abandon their children and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls (many as young as 12) with African men to produce s***es with a distinct complexion. These new mulatto s***es brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African s***es.
This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed forbidding the practice of mating Irish s***e women to African s***e men for the purpose of producing s***es for sale. In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large s***e t***sport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish s***es for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish R*******n, thousands of Irish s***es were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 s***es into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question the Irish experienced the horrors of s***ery as much (if not more, in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is also little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.
In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped t***sporting s***es. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded this chapter of Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that s***ery was only an African experience, then they've got it completely wrong. Irish s***ery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.
But, why is it so seldom discussed? Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims not merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?
Or is their story to be the one that their English masters intended: To completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost s***es; the ones that time and biassed history books conveniently forgot.
Capt-jack wrote:
You may not be ready for this.
IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE S***ES
We've all been taught the horrors of the African s***e trade. It's in all the school books and in plenty of Hollywood movies and has been shoved down our throats since Obama took office. But for some reason the largest group of s***es in the British Colonies in the 17th Century doesn't get mentioned at all: the Irish!
They came as s***es: human cargo t***sported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.
Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. S***e owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
We don't really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African s***e trade. But are we talking about African s***ery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to ens***e the Irish. Britain's Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one's next-door neighbor.
The Irish s***e trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as s***es to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners is sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid-1600s, the Irish were the main s***es sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish s***es.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early s***es to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were k**led by the English and another 300,000 were sold as s***es. Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade.
Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain's solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as s***es in the West Indies, Virginia, and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.
Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also t***sported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as s***es to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish s***es what they truly were: S***es. They'll come up with terms like Indentured Servants to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish s***es were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African s***e trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African s***es, not tainted with the stain of the h**ed Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African s***es were very expensive during the late 1600s (£50 Sterling). Irish s***es came cheap (no more than £5 Sterling). If a planter whipped, branded, or beat an Irish s***e to death, it was never a crime. Death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than k*****g a more expensive African.
The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of s***es were themselves s***es, which increased the size of the master's free workforce.
Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain s***es of her master. Thus, Irish mothers, even with this newfound emancipation, would seldom abandon their children and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls (many as young as 12) with African men to produce s***es with a distinct complexion. These new mulatto s***es brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African s***es.
This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed forbidding the practice of mating Irish s***e women to African s***e men for the purpose of producing s***es for sale. In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large s***e t***sport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish s***es for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish R*******n, thousands of Irish s***es were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 s***es into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question the Irish experienced the horrors of s***ery as much (if not more, in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is also little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.
In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped t***sporting s***es. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded this chapter of Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that s***ery was only an African experience, then they've got it completely wrong. Irish s***ery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.
But, why is it so seldom discussed? Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims not merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?
Or is their story to be the one that their English masters intended: To completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost s***es; the ones that time and biassed history books conveniently forgot.
You may not be ready for this. br br IRISH: THE... (
show quote)
Some of us are well aware of this ...
But are unsure why it's being conflated with black s***ery???
Capt-jack wrote:
You may not be ready for this.
IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE S***ES
We've all been taught the horrors of the African s***e trade. It's in all the school books and in plenty of Hollywood movies and has been shoved down our throats since Obama took office. But for some reason the largest group of s***es in the British Colonies in the 17th Century doesn't get mentioned at all: the Irish!
They came as s***es: human cargo t***sported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.
Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. S***e owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
We don't really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African s***e trade. But are we talking about African s***ery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to ens***e the Irish. Britain's Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one's next-door neighbor.
The Irish s***e trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as s***es to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners is sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid-1600s, the Irish were the main s***es sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish s***es.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early s***es to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were k**led by the English and another 300,000 were sold as s***es. Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade.
Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain's solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as s***es in the West Indies, Virginia, and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.
Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also t***sported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as s***es to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish s***es what they truly were: S***es. They'll come up with terms like Indentured Servants to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish s***es were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African s***e trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African s***es, not tainted with the stain of the h**ed Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African s***es were very expensive during the late 1600s (£50 Sterling). Irish s***es came cheap (no more than £5 Sterling). If a planter whipped, branded, or beat an Irish s***e to death, it was never a crime. Death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than k*****g a more expensive African.
The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of s***es were themselves s***es, which increased the size of the master's free workforce.
Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain s***es of her master. Thus, Irish mothers, even with this newfound emancipation, would seldom abandon their children and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls (many as young as 12) with African men to produce s***es with a distinct complexion. These new mulatto s***es brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African s***es.
This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed forbidding the practice of mating Irish s***e women to African s***e men for the purpose of producing s***es for sale. In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large s***e t***sport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish s***es for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish R*******n, thousands of Irish s***es were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 s***es into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question the Irish experienced the horrors of s***ery as much (if not more, in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is also little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.
In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped t***sporting s***es. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded this chapter of Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that s***ery was only an African experience, then they've got it completely wrong. Irish s***ery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.
But, why is it so seldom discussed? Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims not merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?
Or is their story to be the one that their English masters intended: To completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost s***es; the ones that time and biassed history books conveniently forgot.
You may not be ready for this. br br IRISH: THE... (
show quote)
The US didn't invent s***ery, it just took longer for her to stop the practice than other civilized nations, which includes the British Empire.
lpnmajor wrote:
The US didn't invent s***ery, it just took longer for her to stop the practice than other civilized nations, which includes the British Empire.
Were there Patty McKilt laws afterwards that unfairly discriminated against the freed Irish s***es for several more generations???
Capt-jack wrote:
You may not be ready for this.
IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE S***ES
We've all been taught the horrors of the African s***e trade. It's in all the school books and in plenty of Hollywood movies and has been shoved down our throats since Obama took office. But for some reason the largest group of s***es in the British Colonies in the 17th Century doesn't get mentioned at all: the Irish!
They came as s***es: human cargo t***sported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.
Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. S***e owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
We don't really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African s***e trade. But are we talking about African s***ery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to ens***e the Irish. Britain's Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one's next-door neighbor.
The Irish s***e trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as s***es to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners is sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid-1600s, the Irish were the main s***es sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish s***es.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early s***es to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were k**led by the English and another 300,000 were sold as s***es. Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade.
Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain's solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as s***es in the West Indies, Virginia, and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.
Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also t***sported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as s***es to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish s***es what they truly were: S***es. They'll come up with terms like Indentured Servants to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish s***es were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African s***e trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African s***es, not tainted with the stain of the h**ed Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African s***es were very expensive during the late 1600s (£50 Sterling). Irish s***es came cheap (no more than £5 Sterling). If a planter whipped, branded, or beat an Irish s***e to death, it was never a crime. Death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than k*****g a more expensive African.
The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of s***es were themselves s***es, which increased the size of the master's free workforce.
Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain s***es of her master. Thus, Irish mothers, even with this newfound emancipation, would seldom abandon their children and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls (many as young as 12) with African men to produce s***es with a distinct complexion. These new mulatto s***es brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African s***es.
This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed forbidding the practice of mating Irish s***e women to African s***e men for the purpose of producing s***es for sale. In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large s***e t***sport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish s***es for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish R*******n, thousands of Irish s***es were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 s***es into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question the Irish experienced the horrors of s***ery as much (if not more, in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is also little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.
In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped t***sporting s***es. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded this chapter of Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that s***ery was only an African experience, then they've got it completely wrong. Irish s***ery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.
But, why is it so seldom discussed? Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims not merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?
Or is their story to be the one that their English masters intended: To completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost s***es; the ones that time and biassed history books conveniently forgot.
You may not be ready for this. br br IRISH: THE... (
show quote)
I thought Irish as well as native american s***ery was well known..
but in any event, it should not be forgotten or written off.. nor of course should any such cruel practice to allowed to fade away from notoriety..
Yes, s***ery was far from a British/American invention.. the Romans were famous for their s***e population. Some actually held high positions.. but were still s***es..
S***ery probably was with us from the first cave man who beat up the cave people next door and made them do the hard work of the day..
That in no way makes it forgivable..
lpnmajor wrote:
The US didn't invent s***ery, it just took longer for her to stop the practice than other civilized nations, which includes the British Empire.
Every nationality was s***es at one time.
We had Chinese s***es here working on the railroad, canning salmon, they are no longer s***es.
The Irish, Italian, worked in marble quarries in water up to their knees
12/ 14 hours per day. For pennies. The owners of the quarries would give out
Seed packets for Christmas. Like working in a quarry left them with time on their hands.
Bridge and Dam builders have long spent the money they were paid for working on it, but the dams and bridges are still there. Doesn’t seem right does it ?
It was all against the Magna Carta that noted no one person has right to take over
The life of another person.
Capt-jack wrote:
You may not be ready for this.
IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE S***ES
We've all been taught the horrors of the African s***e trade. It's in all the school books and in plenty of Hollywood movies and has been shoved down our throats since Obama took office. But for some reason the largest group of s***es in the British Colonies in the 17th Century doesn't get mentioned at all: the Irish!
They came as s***es: human cargo t***sported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.
Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. S***e owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
We don't really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African s***e trade. But are we talking about African s***ery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to ens***e the Irish. Britain's Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one's next-door neighbor.
The Irish s***e trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as s***es to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners is sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid-1600s, the Irish were the main s***es sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish s***es.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early s***es to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were k**led by the English and another 300,000 were sold as s***es. Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade.
Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain's solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as s***es in the West Indies, Virginia, and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.
Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also t***sported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as s***es to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish s***es what they truly were: S***es. They'll come up with terms like Indentured Servants to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish s***es were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African s***e trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African s***es, not tainted with the stain of the h**ed Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African s***es were very expensive during the late 1600s (£50 Sterling). Irish s***es came cheap (no more than £5 Sterling). If a planter whipped, branded, or beat an Irish s***e to death, it was never a crime. Death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than k*****g a more expensive African.
The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of s***es were themselves s***es, which increased the size of the master's free workforce.
Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain s***es of her master. Thus, Irish mothers, even with this newfound emancipation, would seldom abandon their children and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls (many as young as 12) with African men to produce s***es with a distinct complexion. These new mulatto s***es brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African s***es.
This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed forbidding the practice of mating Irish s***e women to African s***e men for the purpose of producing s***es for sale. In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large s***e t***sport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish s***es for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish R*******n, thousands of Irish s***es were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 s***es into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question the Irish experienced the horrors of s***ery as much (if not more, in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is also little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.
In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped t***sporting s***es. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded this chapter of Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that s***ery was only an African experience, then they've got it completely wrong. Irish s***ery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.
But, why is it so seldom discussed? Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims not merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?
Or is their story to be the one that their English masters intended: To completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost s***es; the ones that time and biassed history books conveniently forgot.
You may not be ready for this. br br IRISH: THE... (
show quote)
I'm waiting for MY r********ns......
Capt-jack wrote:
You may not be ready for this.
IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE S***ES
We've all been taught the horrors of the African s***e trade. It's in all the school books and in plenty of Hollywood movies and has been shoved down our throats since Obama took office. But for some reason the largest group of s***es in the British Colonies in the 17th Century doesn't get mentioned at all: the Irish!
They came as s***es: human cargo t***sported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.
Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. S***e owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
We don't really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African s***e trade. But are we talking about African s***ery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to ens***e the Irish. Britain's Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one's next-door neighbor.
The Irish s***e trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as s***es to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners is sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid-1600s, the Irish were the main s***es sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish s***es.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early s***es to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were k**led by the English and another 300,000 were sold as s***es. Ireland's population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade.
Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain's solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as s***es in the West Indies, Virginia, and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.
Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also t***sported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as s***es to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish s***es what they truly were: S***es. They'll come up with terms like Indentured Servants to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish s***es were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African s***e trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African s***es, not tainted with the stain of the h**ed Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African s***es were very expensive during the late 1600s (£50 Sterling). Irish s***es came cheap (no more than £5 Sterling). If a planter whipped, branded, or beat an Irish s***e to death, it was never a crime. Death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than k*****g a more expensive African.
The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of s***es were themselves s***es, which increased the size of the master's free workforce.
Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain s***es of her master. Thus, Irish mothers, even with this newfound emancipation, would seldom abandon their children and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls (many as young as 12) with African men to produce s***es with a distinct complexion. These new mulatto s***es brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African s***es.
This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed forbidding the practice of mating Irish s***e women to African s***e men for the purpose of producing s***es for sale. In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large s***e t***sport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish s***es for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish R*******n, thousands of Irish s***es were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 s***es into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question the Irish experienced the horrors of s***ery as much (if not more, in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is also little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.
In 1839, Britain finally decided on its own to end its participation in Satan's highway to hell and stopped t***sporting s***es. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded this chapter of Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that s***ery was only an African experience, then they've got it completely wrong. Irish s***ery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.
But, why is it so seldom discussed? Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims not merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?
Or is their story to be the one that their English masters intended: To completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost s***es; the ones that time and biassed history books conveniently forgot.
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I’m from Irish ancestry, I want my r********ns!!
Big dog wrote:
I’m from Irish ancestry, I want my r********ns!!
Many of the Irish can trace their far back grand dads to Viking Visitations..
That means I must also be in line for r********ns.. good thinking...
lpnmajor wrote:
The US didn't invent s***ery, it just took longer for her to stop the practice than other civilized nations, which includes the British Empire.
The United States of America did not come into existence until 1776. Those other “other civilized nations, which includes the British Empire” existed for centuries before & after the US and had s***es even after President Lincoln emancipated all black s***es.
That is A MERE 86 YEARS after the US was born.
How can you possibly say “it just took longer for her to stop the practice than other civilized nations”????
jim_oldman wrote:
The United States of America did not come into existence until 1776. Those other “other civilized nations, which includes the British Empire” existed for centuries before & after the US and had s***es even after President Lincoln emancipated all black s***es.
That is A MERE 86 YEARS after the US was born.
How can you possibly say “it just took longer for her to stop the practice than other civilized nations”????
Jim.. hello to you, bad day at rimrock for you?? fact is fact and when your man trump tries to change them, tell him to knock it off..
1833
If we hear at all about Britain's involvement in s***ery, there's often a slight whiff of self-congratulation – for abolishing it in 1833, 32 years ahead of the US, where the legacy of s***ery is still more of an open wound.Feb 5, 2020
How Britain is facing up to its hidden s***ery history - BBC ...
https://www.bbc.com › culture › article › 20200205-how-...
permafrost wrote:
Jim.. hello to you, bad day at rimrock for you?? fact is fact and when your man trump tries to change them, tell him to knock it off..
1833
If we hear at all about Britain's involvement in s***ery, there's often a slight whiff of self-congratulation – for abolishing it in 1833, 32 years ahead of the US, where the legacy of s***ery is still more of an open wound.Feb 5, 2020
How Britain is facing up to its hidden s***ery history - BBC ...
https://www.bbc.com › culture › article › 20200205-how-...
Jim.. hello to you, bad day at rimrock for you?? ... (
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Frosty… hello back to you. As I thought I said, s***ery existed for many centuries before the United States of America came into existence and in less than One, 1, Uno century Lincoln abolished it.
For once at least try to defend your premise that “it just took longer for her to stop the practice than other civilized nations” without again going on & on about something about Trump. Give it a break!
Capt-jack wrote:
Well, you are the smartest man on this site I say!... (
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Thanks Capt, Maybe the oldest but probably not the smartest. CLOSE BUT
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