straightUp Loc: California

You people keep talking about these "Marxists". But they don't actually exist. Not the people you are describing anyway. First of all, true Marxists are extremely rare in America and they have no political traction whatsoever. Secondly, they totally don't fit your characterization... at all.

What you are describing is yet another right-wing myth. More fodder for the emotional outrage that keeps you poor folks distracted from how your Republican leaders are screwing you. It's so sad to see.

It's like those hospital ships off the coast of New York with hundreds of beds and full medical staff just waiting for Governor Cuomo to accept their help, but he refused. Remember that one? Yeah, 'turned out to be a lie, didn't it? Or what about the recent one where tax money was spent on putting a copy of a children's book by Kamala Harris in a gift bag for every immigrant child? That turned out to be a lie too.

Top level Democrats participating in satanic sacrifices and child trafficking in pizza parlour basements... Jews in space, shooting lasers at California... Seriously, I think you folks have a problem.


Who is BLN?


I believe the psychological terms for this is "projection"... You are basically taking your own faults and projecting them onto a mythical scapegoat, conveniently attached to the opponents of your political handlers. The ONLY known movements in America that condone violence are on the right. Ask the FBI... That's how I found out.

And no one in America is willing to give up their own freedoms. What we have are Americans on the Right trying to take freedoms away from other Americans... new v***r r**********n laws to make is as hard as possible for black people to v**e for instance or constitutional amendments that say gay people can't get married, or travel restrictions on Muslims. It's a long list so I'll just leave it there. You get my point.

As for the freedoms that the Left is taking away... Nine times out of ten an American conservative will jump to gun control but that's a fail because the 2nd amendment gives us the right to bear arms. That doesn't mean we have the freedom to own any kind of weapon we want. So far the only freedom our gun laws have taken away are imaginary freedoms.

I guess that gets back to the right wing delusions. Like that sweeping army of Martians... no, wait Marxists, right? Excuse me, "Marxists".

Cuda2020

Interesting report, one I don't find surprising. Interesting too is the push back I see on the right not supporting higher education. What's is compelling is what comes along as collateral benefits with education, the ability to reason with some critical thinking, to question and research information, to go beyond ones own ego and think of the welfare of society as a whole, all this may be why Democrats are more for the people and not corporations. For these reasons the more the democratic ideology spreads the better off the country is off.

One other point, why also the US would do itself a great service to make higher education free as in the lower grades, at the very least to an associates degree or trade school. Let's put our efforts more into making our up and coming citizens as productive as possible, let's also put efforts into our inner cities. This is how we make our selves strong.

straightUp Loc: California

I am referring to the plutocratic class as a whole. George Soros is only one sample and he comes to your mind because he is has become the right-wing poster child of supposed left-wing "elitism". The thing is, plutocrats are not all chums. In fact, this is where the real power struggle is. Soros has supported causes that conflict with the interests of other plutocrats like the Koch brothers who depend on right-wing delusions to stoke support for the politicians they're using. So, it makes sense that Soros would be demonized in right-wing folklore and that explains why conservatives are so obsessed with him and liberals are like... "who the hell is Soros?"

AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana

Sorry but this narrative of making it harder for black people to v**e is just a joke.Why don’t you own up to it because what you really mean as you think black people are too stupid to be able to get a photo ID! Do these people just set in their houses and never leave? You can’t go through life without proper ID. Have they not ever been to a pharmacy? Have they ever not trying to return something? Would you be able to get into the White House for a tour if there ever was one again? Do these people not have a bank account?
So you can see how ridiculous this r****t bulls**t is but have a new show an ID to v**e is r****t! It is one of the most important things we have to protect the integrity of but last time the Democrats r****d the e******n using C***d as an excuse for mail in b****ting. There were over 1000 sworn affidavit from poll workers across from all 50 states. The penalty under law is a fine, imprisonment or both for making false claims. Funny how the Democrats so you have to believe the whistle blower which they only had one. Once again laws don’t apply to liberals and 1000 people are not believable? You say we should except the e******n results Because it is over.
Applying your same logic if a person is k**led it’s like saying we should not investigate because they are already dead!
Sorry just using your loony logic against you so maybe the light bulb comes on for you!
If the Democrats succeed in nationalizing e******ns taking the power away from the states, Republicans will never see the house for Senate majority again let alone the White House. Why do you think they are keeping a fence in the military around them to protect them? Talk about living under a dictatorship under a feckless weakling dementia ill********e p*******t🤮👎🏻
They are paying people the C***d bonus on top of unemployment to stay at home that are destroying the same break of small businesses across the country. Look how they Are destroying America in such a short time with their destructors policies.
Can you name one successfully run democratic city that is not in the red and has a low crime rate?
Our freedoms are eroding quickly and the d******c t*******t organization known as B*M has hijacked a movement and creating a potential for a Civil War.This r********ns bulls**t is reprehensible and if you want to live in the past our future is looking bleak. Do you want to tear down statues and erase history. So by applying your liberal logic s***ery never happened so there is no need for r********ns right! My great great grandfather was hung up by the thumbs during the Civil War for helping s***es so where is my r********ns? Face it America’s history has it always been pretty but we learn from it, try to make things better and move on. That’s why we were the greatest country on the planet. China and Russia are laughing at us because they don’t even have to fire a single shot. We are destroying ourselves from within with all of the civil unrest and China and other countries will eat our lunch if this continues!
Wake up and let’s work together as Americans and v**e out these i***ts and their destructive policies before it’s too late. 2022 is literally our next to last chance if we survive🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana

Democrats are more for the people are you kidding me? They are crushing businesses by giving “free” C***d money so people make more to stay at home and they do working at $15 an hour.
You say America would be better off giving “free”education.
You seem to think money grows on trees because nothing is free and somebody is paying for it somewhere.
I heard on the radio yesterday where years ago when our deficit was only around the $4 trillion mark they said if you confiscated the wealth from the richest people it would run the government about two months. Then as the deficit grew they said about one month. You could confiscate wealth from the rich now and it wouldn’t put a dent in it so think about that.
Did you know that trillion seconds is equal to 30,000 years? And now Biden’s programs will total up to almost $6 trillion?
Put in trillion in your search bar and read some of the interesting comparisons so maybe the light bulb goes on for you.
So I will ask you the question I always ask a liberal. What happens when you run out of other peoples money to spend?
Once you have taken the money from the rich, there is no incentive for them to own a business so there goes the jobs and what happens to those people now that don’t have jobs? It all trickles down and once the rich are fleeced then guess who is next in line, then the next line etc.
So if there are no jobs and you don’t have money then how will you survive? Crime rates will rise exponentially and think about that compared to how bad things are now because they want to defund the police so who will be there to protect you?
It’s time to start thinking logically because if you disagree with anything I have said, you are intellectually dishonest and you’re not a realistic person.
It’s a sad state of affairs under our feckless leader and you can see that e******ns have consequences. We are paying for it more and more each day and we better all come together as a country before it’s too late.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Gman65

You suggest putting efforts into the inner cities . If B*M continues their track record as in the recent past , THERE WILL NO LONGER BE ANY INNER CITIES TOO PUT ANY EFFORTS INTO. They're burning them all to the ground .

straightUp Loc: California

It does seem rather obvious doesn't it?


Good ideas! I also think free education would be a much needed upgrade to the Republic and you're correct, the left is supporting the idea, the right is trying to shoot it down. There is no fuzzy line on this one.

Of course it's only "free" to the student because the taxpayers are footing the bill and this is the fulcrum of the issue. On the right, it's simple (of course) and focused on the self (of course). "Why do *I* have to pay for someone else's education?" Boom!

On the left (where the focus is on community) it's seen as a national investment. You pay for a bunch of kids to receive a good education today and tomorrow you have more highly qualified professionals to provide you with top-notch services and fewer street thugs looking for other ways to get money from you.

This is actually a very common understanding and in most developed countries this *is* how it works. But there's a difference between us and these other counties... hang on this is about to get hot...

Most of these other countries are true nations of people and we are not. IMO, America much less a nation and more an enterprise.

Now I'm taking liberties with definition of a nation here but only to illustrate a very real situation. The basic difference is that a nation develops over centuries, transcending a long history of varied political and economic structures and territorial disputes resulting in only one remaining constant... the people. You can often identify these nations if they have their own language.

In contrast, the United States (which uses English as it's official language) has only existed for a few hundred years, all within the span of a single political structure that caters to an economic system of enterprise brought to our shores by the London corporations of the colonial era.

OK, so what does all this mean?

When countries like Germany invest in "free" education it's because there is a sense that the
German people will benefit and what else is more important to a real nation than it's people? No contest. By contrast, in America where the people still have to compete with corporate interests for priority, there is a dispute about it.

But why wouldn't corporations also benefit from "free" education? Well, here's the kicker. American corporations can benefit just as easily from free education in Germany. Just hire German engineers and scientists. So an enterprise like America doesn't have to grow it's own talent. The business can just import them.

This is how I came to America. My father was an aerospace engineer produced by British schools and in 1963 he was recruited by an American defense contractor that needed engineers that they apparently couldn't find in America. No problem for business. I grew up outside of Los Angeles (where aerospace is a major industry) surrounded by immigrants from Europe because my father was far from being an isolated case.

I think it's worse now... I currently work as a software engineer and I'm noticing, first hand that Americans in this industry are a surprising minority. It's getting to where pretty much all the software developed in America is actually developed by people who were educated in India, China and Russia.

So the American enterprise clearly doesn't need to invest in educating Americans if they can just import talent from overseas. But where does that leave the American people?

Anvil

I am always amazed how the left squeals about "lies" - but ignores the ones present by the current administration and it's l*****t cohorts.

Rose42

Neither party is for the people. They are for themselves and their own power first.

straightUp Loc: California

Is the joke as funny as you not being able to understand the narrative?


Getting a photo ID isn't the problem... Black people are apparently smart enough to realize that.


Try listening to yourself... It's pretty funny. Basically, you're listing off all these examples of how these people use photo ID's in everyday life, then your asking why these people can't get a photo ID. LOL


I'm not sure that you know what "r****t" means.


Mail in b****ting has been used for over a hundred years, Sparky.


LOL, that number keeps going up every time I hear the claim. If you folks can keep your stories straight they might be more believable, just saying.

Ronna McDaniel, Chair of the Republican National Committee (RNC) reported the count at 500. So I guess one of you Republicans is lying. Those 500 affidavits however report 11,000 v***r f***d incidents (according to McDaniel).

Here's the thing… Trump was down by 7,052,770 v**es. So what kind of mullet-minded math is going to say 11,000 disqualified v**es is going to overturn a deficit 640 times bigger?

So I don't even have to go into any details about the fraudulence involved in the affidavits themselves to say that it doesn't even matter. Trump lost. Move on.


Legal experts have stated that the jeopardy faced by those making false claims on these affidavits is relatively minimal. First of all, for this law to apply, an affidavit would have to be signed in court and most of those affidavits filed by the Trump team were not. Secondly, the claims being made are very difficult to prove one way or the other and even more difficult is whether or not the claimant KNEW he/she was claiming a falsehood, which is a prerequisite to any punishment.

Also, a fair number of claims turned out to be honest mistakes, like the Texas security consultant who mistook data from Minnesota to be from Michigan. In these cases the claim could be understood as an honest mistake or resulting from a lack of expertise in the subject matter — rather than an outright lie. He was therefore not punished. But again, none of this matters to the 2020 e******n results because 11,000 invalidated v**es STILL isn't enough to compensate for a 7 million v**e deficit.


Is that really a sentence?


Do you really believe that?


There's more than 1000 people insisting that the Earth is flat. So you tell me.


No, I'm saying accept the e******n results because 11,000 invalidated v**es STILL isn't enough to compensate for a 7 million v**e deficit.


The problem is… that isn't my logic. You are assuming that I am saying we should stop the investigations and I never said that. Also it's a really bad analogy because murder investigations don't determine if the murder victim is dead. That's why it doesn't matter if he is. The focus is on the cause not the effect.

You are trying to compare that with these investigations that are ultimately trying to change the effect (e******n results). That's like proving that the murder victim isn't really dead.


That all depends on the Republicans. They need to convince more people that they present better options. Right now they're only able to convince a less-educated demographic in rural parts of the country and they can get away with it because our system broke in 1910 when the House of Representatives stopped adding seats to match the growing population.

I'll illustrate the problem…

Year 1: (fair)
District 1: 10 people + 1 representative
District 2: 10 people + 1 representative

Year 2: (not so fair)
District 1: 10 people + 1 representative
District 2: 20 people + 1 representative

Year 3: (District 2 is screwed!)
District 1: 12 people + 1 representative
District 2: 60 people + 1 representative

So what you are saying is precisely this…. You don't WANT the system to be fair because your side can't win in a fair fight. Think about it.


The security is there because YOU folks violently mobbed the Capitol a few months ago, you don't remember that?


Paying people to stay at home sounds like a great idea to me. It helps prevent the spread of the v***s without forcing them into starvation. I really don't see what your problem is here. Yes, this is causing the weaker businesses to fold, but the stronger ones are thriving. Look how well Amazon is doing. Wh**ever happened to American determination and ingenuity? When did we become a nation of whiners that can't deal with a p******c?


Oh… well, THAT's not out of the blue - lol. Are we moving on to wh**ever insults you can throw at the liberals now?

Fine… Irvine, CA.

Run by a Democrats, Irvine is currently ranked #2 in the top 10 cities in the US with the lowest crime rates AND it's solvent. There. Are you surprised? Was that not supposed to happen?

Look, I know it's a popular claim among Republicans these days, that Democrats can't manage cities or control crime and ever since some "genius" realized that almost all the major cities with crime issues are run by Democrats, conservatives have been carrying that klunker around like it's a hand grenade. But what they fail to realize is that potential crime rates increase with the size of the population anyway. That means that major cities will always have a higher potential for crime. It just so happens that almost ALL the major cities are run by Democrats, mostly because no one believes Republicans can handle it.

So what are we comparing here? LAPD dealing with Bloods, Crips and Russian mafia versus the Mayberry Sherriff dealing with the town drunk?

Get real. Tell Tucker Carlson to come up with a better grenade.LOL


LOL - I *LOVE* this one. First of all B*M hasn't hijacked anything. They ARE the movement and they've been really successful in using peaceful and legal means to push for reform. In fact, they've become a model for similar movements around the world.

I know this creates a LOT of resentment on the right sometimes leading to angry threats of civil war, which is just absurd. All that talk of civil war is coming from the same type of people that mobbed the Capitol and that event revealed a LOT about what they are capable of, like getting arrested and making utter fools of themselves. Here's the score card bro…

B*M + peaceful protests = negotiations for reform.
Pudd Boys + r**ts = total failure and jail time.

Civil war? Don't make laugh.


I'm not a fan of r********n. I just think we should recognize historical t***sgressions and do our best to avoid them in the future.

As for the statues… personally, I don't care. I'm not into symbolism and all that crap. I guess I'm inclined to say we should leave them standing because they are works of art and for some people they have historical meaning. For those that find them offensive I think they should get over it. It's a piece of stone.


I don't know what "liberal logic" has to do with it, but I'm pretty sure s***ery DID happen - but I don't know why that would mean we need to offer r********n. I guess I don't understand your "logic" there.


Why would you get r********n for something that happened to your grandfather?


Well, we try anyway.


Ugh… what’s with the ridiculous obsession with needing to be the "greatest" country on the planet? Are you saying that no other people try to learn from their past? Think again. Why don't we just focus on being a decent country. Let's focus on making it better than it was. We don't NEEED to be #1 all the time.


Well, we agree there.


Well… working together as Americans sounds great but in the same breath you are suggesting an attack on Americans, so that's kind of confusing - LOL. I mean how do you think those "i***ts" got to office in the first place? They were elected by Americans and you think v****g them out qualifies as working WITH those Americans?

I'm not sure what you are calling destructive policies either but I know that's what a lot of conservatives call progressive policies and I don't think they're all that destructive. The policies I find most destructive are coming from the right, such as the 2017 tax cut that added a huge deficit to our budget, just to name one.

So, this was a long post... this is what happens when you rant and wind up giving me so much to respond to.

Cuda2020

You mean like what w***e A******ns did to black Tulsan citizens during the Tulsa Race Massacre.
{ As dawn broke on June 1, thousands of white citizens poured into the Greenwood District, l**ting and burning homes and businesses over an area of 35 city blocks. Firefighters who arrived to help put out fires later testified that r****rs had threatened them with guns and forced them to leave.}
R****rs being the w****s.


According to a later Red Cross estimate, some 1,256 houses were burned; 215 others were l**ted but not torched. Two newspapers, a school, a library, a hospital, churches, hotels, stores and many other Black-owned businesses were among the buildings destroyed or damaged by fire.

By the time the National Guard arrived and Governor J. B. A. Robertson had declared martial law shortly before noon, the r**t had effectively ended.

AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana

You must be from Pluto if you think George Soros is a right winger! His funding and backing demonstrates otherwise.

AmericanEagle Loc: Indiana

Those tax cuts you spoke of helped give life to our economy I am making us more prosperous which later would help reduce the deficit.
Look what Biden has done within 100 days talk about Texan spend! It’s like giving a kid a credit card and having mommy and daddy pay the bill. In this case mommy and daddy is the American taxpayer and the kid is dementia Joe and you know he is not smart enough to do this and is being done behind the scenes....And guess who the wizard is.

martsiva

'On the side of the workers'??? Did you actually state that after Biden destroyed 1000`s of American jobs??? HOW is that promoting a better lifestyle?? HOW is censoring voices of a different view from Democrats c*******t agenda 'promoting a better lifestyle?? YOU are the one who embraces the left wing garbage of all that I stated!! Oh please - go ahead and deny what everyone else has seen!!

Cuda2020

Behind the eight ball, or sucking wind , take your choice, at least if we stick to that path.