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Jul 22, 2021 10:36:16   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I live in California and have never heard of that.


Stick around!! You WILL!!

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Jul 23, 2021 11:24:19   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Stupid people allow kids with no training to have access to guns. Even someone with your limited intelligence should be against that.

Unintentional Shootings
Unintentional shootings happen to children of all ages. In homes with guns, the likelihood of accidental death by shooting is four times higher.

In 2020, there were at least 369 unintended shootings by children in the United States. These shootings caused 142 deaths and 242 injuries. The C****-** p******c hasn't helped either. From March to December 2020, unintended shooting deaths by kids went up more than 30% compared to the same time period in 2019.
Stupid people allow kids with no training to have ... (show quote)


Yes, you are right about stupid people letting their kids access to guns, all are Dems/liberals. I have said for years we should ban Democrats from touching guns. The crime rate would plummet.

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Jul 23, 2021 11:29:04   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You have a lot of crazy ideas.


Most of the crazy ideas are from your dumb ass democrats, like no bail, it's ok to shoplift if it's under $950.00! lol
I am wrong to say it's "crazy ideas" it's flat as stupid ideas. You should seek medical help.

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Jul 23, 2021 12:07:39   #
moldyoldy
 
Capt-jack wrote:
Yes, you are right about stupid people letting their kids access to guns, all are Dems/liberals. I have said for years we should ban Democrats from touching guns. The crime rate would plummet.


If the right owns all the guns, how is that possible?

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Jul 24, 2021 09:53:33   #
moldyoldy
 
Bebida wrote:
And you I***TS on the left CLOSE your Brains to ANY I***tic thing the left comes up with!! It DOESN'T MATTER whether it is $1,000.00 or $10.00, a THIEF is STILL a THIEF!! And should be PROSECUTED!!
How would you like a THIEF in your house and he steals, your $500.00 TV. Is that STILL OK?? Or a $400.00 TV? Just a MISDEMEANOR, so that makes it OK, RIGHT??


I don’t know what the amount was before, perhaps it changed by $50.00, but it sure does not merit a right wing freak out.

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Jul 24, 2021 12:11:22   #
SWMBO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I don’t know what the amount was before, perhaps it changed by $50.00, but it sure does not merit a right wing freak out.


When I grew up in Minnesota, any stealing from anyone was considered a crime. As a child, the punishment was handled by the parents, which was usually worse than the talking to by the police officer. As a young adult the punishment might have been a week in a juvinal vacility (I don't know because neither me nor my brother would have dared commit a crime. The punishment for having forgotten to feed the chickens, or even worse for forgotten to feed the calves, would have been bad enough, usually double amounts of farm chores for two to four weeks , let alone if we had stolen something from the grocery store. Even out here in the country these days most parents make a dozen different excuses for the bad things their children do. And we wonder why no one has respect for others?

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Jul 24, 2021 12:22:02   #
moldyoldy
 
SWMBO wrote:
When I grew up in Minnesota, any stealing from anyone was considered a crime. As a child, the punishment was handled by the parents, which was usually worse than the talking to by the police officer. As a young adult the punishment might have been a week in a juvinal vacility (I don't know because neither me nor my brother would have dared commit a crime. The punishment for having forgotten to feed the chickens, or even worse for forgotten to feed the calves, would have been bad enough, usually double amounts of farm chores for two to four weeks , let alone if we had stolen something from the grocery store. Even out here in the country these days most parents make a dozen different excuses for the bad things their children do. And we wonder why no one has respect for others?
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Stealing is still a crime, the only change is the amount of theft that constitutes a felony vs a misdemeanor.


Petty Theft Charges Explained
In the state of California, theft crimes are charged under Penal Code Section 484 PC, which covers both petty theft and the more serious charge of grand theft. Whereas grand theft occurs when a defendant is charged with stealing property worth more than $950 from another individual, petty theft refers to any theft crime where the accused stole property that is worth less than $950 in value.


Since 2000, at least 37 states have raised their felony theft thresholds, or the value of stolen money or goods above which prosecutors may charge theft offenses as felonies, rather than misdemeanors.1 Felony offenses typically carry a penalty of at least a year in state prison, while misdemeanors generally result in probation or less than a year in a locally run jail. Lawmakers have made these changes to prioritize costly prison space for more serious offenders and ensure that value-based penalties take inflation into account. A felony theft threshold of $1,000 established in 1985, for example, is equivalent to more than twice that much in 2015 dollars.

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Jul 25, 2021 10:52:19   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I don’t know what the amount was before, perhaps it changed by $50.00, but it sure does not merit a right wing freak out.


I think ANY value put on ANY STOLEN PROPERTY, should warrant PROSECUTION!!! Just because someone is TOO LAZY to GET A JOB, should NEVER give him the right to take ANYTHING that does not belong to him or her!! NO MATTER the VALUE!!
AND I see you never answered my question about if it were YOU they were STEALING from!! If a WHITE guy came into your house and took your TV, I am sure you would just say OH WELL. He has the Right to do that!! BULL

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Jul 25, 2021 10:56:29   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
SWMBO wrote:
When I grew up in Minnesota, any stealing from anyone was considered a crime. As a child, the punishment was handled by the parents, which was usually worse than the talking to by the police officer. As a young adult the punishment might have been a week in a juvinal vacility (I don't know because neither me nor my brother would have dared commit a crime. The punishment for having forgotten to feed the chickens, or even worse for forgotten to feed the calves, would have been bad enough, usually double amounts of farm chores for two to four weeks , let alone if we had stolen something from the grocery store. Even out here in the country these days most parents make a dozen different excuses for the bad things their children do. And we wonder why no one has respect for others?
When I grew up in Minnesota, any stealing from any... (show quote)


SAME HERE. In MICHIGAN it USED to be a crime. But I suppose with Witmer as Gov. it won't be for long!! Have you ever had a fresh cut willow switch wrapped around your "bare" legs a time or 5?? THAT was Mom's weapon of choice, when it came to punishment!! It was effective!!

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Jul 25, 2021 11:16:39   #
moldyoldy
 
Bebida wrote:
I think ANY value put on ANY STOLEN PROPERTY, should warrant PROSECUTION!!! Just because someone is TOO LAZY to GET A JOB, should NEVER give him the right to take ANYTHING that does not belong to him or her!! NO MATTER the VALUE!!
AND I see you never answered my question about if it were YOU they were STEALING from!! If a WHITE guy came into your house and took your TV, I am sure you would just say OH WELL. He has the Right to do that!! BULL



If they were not being prosecuted, then I would agree with you, but that’s not the case.

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Jul 25, 2021 11:24:59   #
Bebida Loc: Michigan
 
moldyoldy wrote:
If they were not being prosecuted, then I would agree with you, but that’s not the case.


Then WHY are they just walking out of stores with garbage bags of stuff they never paid for?? And WHY are Stores CLOSING and moving out of Calif. BECAUSE OF IT??

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Jul 25, 2021 11:47:08   #
moldyoldy
 
Bebida wrote:
Then WHY are they just walking out of stores with garbage bags of stuff they never paid for?? And WHY are Stores CLOSING and moving out of Calif. BECAUSE OF IT??


https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/08/09/what-s-the-punishment-for-theft-depends-on-what-state-you-re-in

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Jul 25, 2021 12:02:20   #
SWMBO
 
Bebida wrote:
SAME HERE. In MICHIGAN it USED to be a crime. But I suppose with Witmer as Gov. it won't be for long!! Have you ever had a fresh cut willow switch wrapped around your "bare" legs a time or 5?? THAT was Mom's weapon of choice, when it came to punishment!! It was effective!!


Our punishment for not doing what we were told to do was to have our farm chores doubled, which usually meant an extra 5 hours a day and if that mean we got only 3 hours of sleep, so be it. The worst thing my brother ever did was lie to our father and claim he had fed the three calves. Because of his lie the calves almost died, and the rest of the family had extra work to do to save them. This happened a couple of days before my brothers 8th birthday, and , in addition to not getting any presents that year, he had to spend half the summer doing clean up for our dad, who was the only country vet in the area. So my brother had to clean up after the farm animals that my dad had treated and dig the holes for two goat kids and one calf that did not survive (a common occurence with livestock) where the first two weeks are always critical. Growing up on a small farm back then was a learning experience, and taught me how to respect all life, even the lives of the animals that ended up on our dinner table.

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Jul 25, 2021 13:31:41   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
moldyoldy wrote:
If the right owns all the guns, how is that possible?


What makes you think that? Do you think all the b****s shooing up Chicago are Right? lol

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Jul 25, 2021 14:15:28   #
SWMBO
 
Capt-jack wrote:
What makes you think that? Do you think all the b****s shooing up Chicago are Right? lol


I think that the majority of properly registered guns belong to conservatives. However, the "liberals" or left wing Marxists have almost all of the black market guns and those stolen from other people by criminals , and this is the group that has no intention of following any laws if they can get away with ignoring the laws that do not suit their needs and wishes.
NPP

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