Big Kahuna

Saltwind, I have news for you. Trump would h**e you if you supported him. Who needs your h**eful type anyways??

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Netanyahu is NOT a good man!! He's very similar to George Soros.

The Jews are NOT God's chosen people!!! The Bible is quite clear that it was Abraham's grandson, Jacob whose name was changed to Israel by God. It was the descendants of Jacob/Israel's 12 sons who received the blessing of being God's chosen people.

tbutkovich

China will take over all of Southeast Asia without a shot being fired! Prophecy has it the the King of the East, China, King of the South, Iran and King of the North, Russia in its alliance with Turkey will make the final war Armageddon against Israel.

The United States, the modern day Babylon will be destroyed prior to the final three pronged attack on Israel just prior to Jesus second coming.

Clearly Documented in Daniel 11 Prophecies and the Book of Revelations!

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

I think you're wrong. Your reference to "Israel" is not in the Bible.

kemmer

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Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Bravo, BigMike, Bravo!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Israel is a name used 2,431 times in the Bible. It is included in 34 out of the 39 books in the Old Testament. And in 13 of the 27 New Testament books as well. Clearly it is an important name. But who, or what, is Israel? How come it is the most significant name in the Bible apart from God?

The primary thread throughout the Bible is the redemption of humanity. The first three chapters recount the creation and fall of humanity. The remainder of the Scripture primarily deals with the story of our restoration. And Israel is at the center of that story.

Meaning of Israel

Israel is the Hebrew name Yisra'el, meaning God contends, or one who struggles with God.

God gives this name to Abraham’s grandson Jacob after he spends a night wrestling with God (Genesis 32:28). Later, Israel is the name given to Jacob’s offspring and to the nation that they eventually form.

Significance of Israel: The People of God

But Israel is not just an extended family that became a nation. That would not make them special in any way. Many other nations have specific ethnic identity. And many of them could recount similar stories of prosperity and oppression.

What made Israel unique is that God was using them to further his plan of redemption for the human race. This plan started with an individual, with Abraham. God did not call Abraham because he was stronger, or smarter, or richer than other people in his world. What set Abraham apart from other people was that he responded to God; he believed him and was faithful to obey.

God furthered his plan of redemption by calling a people, the descendants of Abraham’s grandson, Jacob. When God called Israel, it was not because they were a strong people, or a wealthy people, or even a people that worshipped him. Israel was not even a nation. They were s***es in Egypt.

But God had a plan for Israel. He delivered them from Egyptian s***ery. He made a covenant with them at Mt Sinai. A covenant in which he promised to be their God if they would only obey him. God brought them into a land that was already populated and enabled them to claim it as their own. God instructed them in how to worship, how to live in community, how to be a holy people.

And God did this, not because they were in any way worthy of it. They were far from worthy, as they proved time and time again. But because he had a plan.

God’s Purpose for Israel

So God had a plan for Israel. But what was that plan? What was his purpose in taking this s***e people and making a nation out of them? And continuing to put up with their rebellious nature for hundreds of years?

I believe that if you go back to God’s encounter with Israel at Mt Sinai you will find an answer to that question. In Exodus 19:5-6 is found God’s invitation to Israel to join him: “Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’”

God’s purpose, if Israel agreed, was to make Israel into a kingdom of priests – a holy nation. As a kingdom of priests they would have the task of representing the nations to God. And God to the nations. They were a people that God intended to use to further his work in the redemption of humanity.

In general Israel failed as God’s representative to the world. They even failed in keeping God’s covenant. As a result God destroyed them as a nation, sending them into exile, before bringing some of them back to the land and seemingly starting over. Israel was a demonstration that no matter what God does for people, we will rebel against him.

What Israel Provided Us

While it might be tempting to see Israel as a failure, I do not believe that was the case. God knew their disobedience to the covenant and his purpose for them upfront. And through it all he worked to produce at least two important things out of Israel.

1. Jesus Christ

Most important was Jesus, who while fully divine, was also fully human. He was Jewish, and living under the covenant law of Israel. And he not only lived under it. He fulfilled it. After Jesus’ fulfilment of the law, believers could look back and see that the law pointed to Jesus all along.

All of Israel’s history was moving toward the coming of Jesus. The law and the prophets spoke of him (Acts 28:23), and he came to fulfill them (Luke 24:44). Jesus was the fulfilment of Israel’s purpose. Even though Israel as a nation would seem to have failed, God used them to bring Jesus into the world.

2. The Old Testament

Israel also produced what Christians today call the Old Testament. This record of Israel’s history, and God’s dealing with them is important for our understanding of God and redemption history.

It is a history with a few bright spots, but mostly it is a story of human failure. And, contrasted with the failure of humanity, we see God clearly portrayed as purposeful, patient, and just. Our understanding of who God is would be poorer if not for the messy history of Israel.

God’s Purpose for Israel Today

So if Jesus fulfilled Israel’s purpose, does God still have a further purpose for them? Or have they been set aside?

There is much heated debate over this issue. Clearly Israel still exists as a nation, and it would seem that God has been preserving some remnant of them over the past 2,000 years. The vast majority of the times the New Testament uses the name Israel is in regard to the physical descendants of Jacob.

But I believe there is more to Israel than that today. Looking at Ephesians 2:11-22 it is clear that Paul sees something more than just the status quo for Israel. Paul refers here to a new humanity that Christ has created via his death on the cross. Created out of both Jew and Gentile. Not containing both Jews and Gentiles. But one where that distinction does not exist.

Most commonly we call that new humanity the Church. But in Galatians 6:16 Paul seems to call them “the Israel of God.” I am convinced that the Church has not replaced Israel. I am also convinced that God does not have two distinct covenant people. Instead, Israel now includes people from all backgrounds. All united together in Christ; Israel fulfilled.

What Is the Meaning of Israel?

So what does Israel mean in the Bible? It really depends on the context.

It could refer to an individual; Abraham’s grandson.
It could mean the descendants of Israel; the children of Israel.
Frequently it refers to the nation of Israel; either the united kingdom or the northern kingdom.
Probably the most common usage is to refer to God’s people; those that he established a covenant with at Sinai and their descendants.
And, finally, we see it pointing toward the new humanity created in Christ; citizens of the kingdom of God.

But always the name points back to God and his purposes. Those identified with that name are God’s people, chosen for a purpose. And that is what Israel ultimately means: God’s people.
Ed Jarrett

2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

Hey there saltwind 78. Jope all is well you and yorin. What is it that makes you h**e Trump? If you are going reply that you dont like his personality as possibly not being p**********l, to me that is not a good answer. If it is all about his policies then what is it that you didnt like? He was fulfilling all of his promises that that millions upon millions upon millions of U.S. citizens that was wanted of him. That is why every time he held a rally tens of thousands of people would show up every single time. Securing the boarder that even Bidens people are now admitting to. Lets not forget the entire America first (MAGA) which is and was an enormous success. Darn near everything he was accomplishing for all of us meaning you as well, meaning whether or not you supported him or his policies was a net benefit for you me everyone else. He was assaulted from prior to evn being elected and all of the following so called investigations came with up with not only nothing but quite the opposite. All you have to so is just look at the history over the last 4 plus years. President Trump warned everyone what was going to happen with our constitutional rights and he wass and is absolutely correct. So once again saltwind 78, what is it that makes you h**e him so much? Are you enjoying all of the Executive Orders that Biden has been slinging out every other day? Might you be at least a little bit concerned about our 1st and second amendment right being chipped away at. I suppose I could go on but at this point all I and the rest of us here on both sides of the political aisle want to know your reasoning and logic thats all.
Mike

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

Calm down.
You're giving bad information.
Jacob's 4th son was JUDAH.
Of the 12 only Judah and Benjamin remain.
The scepter shall not depart from Judah.
Sound familiar?
Judah =JEW.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Israel, not the land but the descendants of Jacob/Israel, are the chosen of God. Where the Bible speaks of Israel it is generally referring to those people, NOT the Jews and not the land of Israel!

The Jews descend from either Cain or Esau. Those who descend from Esau were known as Edomites, the Pharisees and Scribes. Cain's father was Satan. In John 8, the Jews admit that they have never been in bondage. That proves that they are not Israelites.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Jews are NOT of Judah! The book of Maccabees explains what happened.

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Amen!

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

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jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Amen, and amen

Big dog

And nukes