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Feb 21, 2021 15:15:18   #
thebigp
 
The Keystone pipeline, upon completion, would carry more than 800,000 barrels, or 33.6 million gallons, of oil through the pipeline per day.
With no harmful emissions.

A Barrel of Oil is 42 gallons, not to be confused with a Drum which is 55 gallons.
Because a gallon of oil weighs between 7.5 and 7.8 lbs. per gallon, most trucks can only carry about 130 barrels of oil at a time without violating the Department of T***sportation laws of maximum 80,000 lbs. per load on US roadways. That's truck and cargo weight!
It would take 6,154 trucks going from Canada to the Gulf Coast to move that same oil and that's every single day.

Now a rail car holds approx. 30,000 gallons or 700 barrels.
It would take many trains, every day, pulling 1,143 more rail cars per day.

Each of these methods of t***sport, or a combination of these methods, would be required just to pull the same amount of oil daily that the Keystone XL pipeline would carry each day from that pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast.

Trains and Trucks will emit substantially more emissions and burn substantially more fuel all of which would be eliminated by an operating Keystone XL pipeline.
So when they tell you this is about the environment, it is not; that would be a lie.

Just thought you should know.

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Feb 21, 2021 15:18:57   #
kemmer
 
thebigp wrote:
The Keystone pipeline, upon completion, would carry more than 800,000 barrels, or 33.6 million gallons, of oil through the pipeline per day.
With no harmful emissions.

There have already been massive oil spills. And that oil is too dirty to be used in the US.

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Feb 21, 2021 18:11:58   #
Lonewolf
 
thebigp wrote:
The Keystone pipeline, upon completion, would carry more than 800,000 barrels, or 33.6 million gallons, of oil through the pipeline per day.
With no harmful emissions.

A Barrel of Oil is 42 gallons, not to be confused with a Drum which is 55 gallons.
Because a gallon of oil weighs between 7.5 and 7.8 lbs. per gallon, most trucks can only carry about 130 barrels of oil at a time without violating the Department of T***sportation laws of maximum 80,000 lbs. per load on US roadways. That's truck and cargo weight!
It would take 6,154 trucks going from Canada to the Gulf Coast to move that same oil and that's every single day.

Now a rail car holds approx. 30,000 gallons or 700 barrels.
It would take many trains, every day, pulling 1,143 more rail cars per day.

Each of these methods of t***sport, or a combination of these methods, would be required just to pull the same amount of oil daily that the Keystone XL pipeline would carry each day from that pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast.

Trains and Trucks will emit substantially more emissions and burn substantially more fuel all of which would be eliminated by an operating Keystone XL pipeline.
So when they tell you this is about the environment, it is not; that would be a lie.

Just thought you should know.
The Keystone pipeline, upon completion, would carr... (show quote)


Let canada pipe their s**t through their country

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Feb 21, 2021 18:39:09   #
woodguru
 
thebigp wrote:
The Keystone pipeline, upon completion, would carry more than 800,000 barrels, or 33.6 million gallons, of oil through the pipeline per day.
With no harmful emissions.

A Barrel of Oil is 42 gallons, not to be confused with a Drum which is 55 gallons.
Because a gallon of oil weighs between 7.5 and 7.8 lbs. per gallon, most trucks can only carry about 130 barrels of oil at a time without violating the Department of T***sportation laws of maximum 80,000 lbs. per load on US roadways. That's truck and cargo weight!
It would take 6,154 trucks going from Canada to the Gulf Coast to move that same oil and that's every single day.

Now a rail car holds approx. 30,000 gallons or 700 barrels.
It would take many trains, every day, pulling 1,143 more rail cars per day.

Each of these methods of t***sport, or a combination of these methods, would be required just to pull the same amount of oil daily that the Keystone XL pipeline would carry each day from that pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast.

Trains and Trucks will emit substantially more emissions and burn substantially more fuel all of which would be eliminated by an operating Keystone XL pipeline.
So when they tell you this is about the environment, it is not; that would be a lie.

Just thought you should know.
The Keystone pipeline, upon completion, would carr... (show quote)


If the Keystone pipeline is so important, why isn't an industry that makes billions a quarter willing to pay for it, why is the federal government expected to pay for an industry's infrastructure when they are making the profits on it when it's done?

Can you tell us why the federal government should have to pay for a single dime of this? Do you know what the politics were of the corporations that are building it in terms of their break point on what it is worth to them? Do you know what the dynamics of the oil being moved through it are...how dirty it is and how much it costs to refine it?

Yet you want to talk about the rhetoric that has no relevance to the realities of the cost of the pipeline and who pays for or benefits from it.

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Feb 22, 2021 12:17:29   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Let canada pipe their s**t through their country


97 to 98% of that Canadian oil is used in the U.S.A. for Americans.

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Feb 22, 2021 12:21:44   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
kemmer wrote:
There have already been massive oil spills. And that oil is too dirty to be used in the US.


US Department of T***sportation data shows pipelines are the safest mode of energy t***sportation.
Accidents are rare.
According to the most recent numbers available, 99.999997% of gas and crude oil is moved safely through interstate t***smission pipelines.

Pipelines are the safest way to t***sport oil and gas
In every year from 2003 to 2013, pipelines experienced fewer occurrences per million barrels of oil equivalent t***sported than did rail. Overall in this period, rail experienced 0.227 occurrences per million barrels of oil equivalent t***sported compared to 0.049 for pipelines.
This means that rail is more than 4.5 times more likely to experience an occurrence.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/pipelines-are-safest-way-t***sport-oil-and-gas

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