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Feb 24, 2021 08:40:22   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
And I would expect such a reply from the little boy of the bronx~~

Not having read this entire thread I’ll opt others have tried to educate you a bit so if what I say here is redundant then just take it as a need to read it again for comprehension...

Supreme Court~~ The Court ruled that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution confersan individual right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes such as self-defense. It also ruled that two District of Columbia provisions, one that banned handguns and one that required lawful firearms in the home to be disassembled or trigger-locked, unconstitutional.. In cases in the 19th Century, the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment does not bar state regulation of firearms...

Amendment does not bar state regulation of firearms. For example, in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542, 553 (1875), the Court stated that the Second Amendment “has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,” and in Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252, 265 (1886), the Court reiterated that the Second Amendment “is a limitation only upon the power of Congress and the National government, and not upon that of the States.” Although most of the rights in the Bill of Rights have been selectively incorporated into the rights guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment and thus cannot be impaired by state governments, the Second Amendment has never been so incorporated. UPDATE: In McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010), the Supreme Court addressed this issue, ruling that Second Amendment rights are applicable to states through the Fourteenth Amendment...

Now pay special attention to the Parker case I reference below when you look it up... It addresses some of your concerns of those not fit to have a right of ownership of a weapon..Just a hint for you..😉

Justice Antonin Scalia, wrote the Court first conducted a textual analysis of the operative clause, "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The Court found that this language guarantees an individual right to possess and carry weapons. The Court examined historical evidence that it found consistent with its textual analysis. The Court then considered the Second Amendment’s prefatory clause, "[a] well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State," and determined that while this clause announces a purpose for recognizing an individual right to keep and bear arms, it does not limit the operative clause. The Court found that analogous contemporaneous provisions in state constitutions, the Second Amendment’s drafting history, and post ratification interpretations were consistent with its interpretation of the amendment... The Court asserted that its prior precedent was not inconsistent with its interpretation... Imagine that...

The Court stated that the right to keep and bear arms is subject to regulation, such as concealed weapons prohibitions, limits on the rights of felons and the mentally ill, laws forbidding the carrying of weapons in certain locations, Etcetcetc...
It stated that this was not an exhaustive list of the regulatory measures that would be presumptively permissible under the Second Amendment.

District of Columbia v. Heller,
United States v. Miller
Parker v. District of Columbia/Supreme Court of the United States.....

Finally, this Barbie Doll suggests perhaps visiting with Ken who may be able to shed some light on proper Etiquette techniques when replying to others rather than trying to fly on “your perceived perception of self grandiosity..”
And I would expect such a reply from the little bo... (show quote)


Eloquently and beautifully expressed, my favorite "Barbie" doll! As always, you are a reasoned and intelligent lady, and it is always enjoyable to read your posts. Hope you and yours are doing well.

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Feb 24, 2021 09:20:52   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Eloquently and beautifully expressed, my favorite "Barbie" doll! As always, you are a reasoned and intelligent lady, and it is always enjoyable to read your posts. Hope you and yours are doing well.


Thank You my friend...The pleasure is always mine when in your company...

Hope you and yours are safe, healthy and always smiling...

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Feb 24, 2021 17:12:51   #
GmanTerry
 
[quote=lindajoy]Even I know AR-15-style semiautomatic weapons are civilian versions of military weapons. AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.” AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic, a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934...

Here is the derivation...
Does AR mean Armalite?
Here's a quick history lesson on why AR-15 has become the umbrella term for a range of semi-automatic rifles made by a host of gun makers. "AR" comes from the name of the gun's original manufacturer, ArmaLite, Inc. The letters stand for ArmaLite Rifle — and not for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle."

Semper Fi

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Feb 24, 2021 18:29:26   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
[quote=GmanTerry]
lindajoy wrote:
Even I know AR-15-style semiautomatic weapons are civilian versions of military weapons. AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.” AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic, a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934...

Here is the derivation...
Does AR mean Armalite?
Here's a quick history lesson on why AR-15 has become the umbrella term for a range of semi-automatic rifles made by a host of gun makers. "AR" comes from the name of the gun's original manufacturer, ArmaLite, Inc. The letters stand for ArmaLite Rifle — and not for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle."

Semper Fi
Even I know AR-15-style semiautomatic weapons are ... (show quote)


Wh**ever the moniker, my brother committed suicide with one of the guns under the *umbrella* term. I guess I don't really understand why anyone would want or need a high-powered rifle. Seems like overk**l. Yeah, it was overk**l for my brother.



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Feb 24, 2021 18:53:38   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Arya Stark wrote:
Wh**ever the moniker, my brother committed suicide with one of the guns under the *umbrella* term. I guess I don't really understand why anyone would want or need a high-powered rifle. Seems like overk**l. Yeah, it was overk**l for my brother.


Arya, I am so very sorry for your loss. Death in ones family is always tragic, and especially so when one takes their own life. My sincerest condolences to you and the rest of your folks.

To address your statement, the only things I can offer is that an armed citizenry provides a line in the sand for any government intent on controlling or enslaving their own people. History shows that humans are infinitely capable of rationalizing such actions. An armed citizenry limits that, whether by Trump, or Hillary, or Biden, or Pelosi. A step of great wisdom on the part of our founders.
The second reason is because it is part of our personal freedoms, and the one that insures the rest of them.
But I can certainly understand your feelings, given the circumstances. Again, my deepest regrets.

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Feb 24, 2021 19:53:31   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
[quote=GmanTerry]
lindajoy wrote:
Even I know AR-15-style semiautomatic weapons are civilian versions of military weapons. AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.” AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic, a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934...

Here is the derivation...
Does AR mean Armalite?
Here's a quick history lesson on why AR-15 has become the umbrella term for a range of semi-automatic rifles made by a host of gun makers. "AR" comes from the name of the gun's original manufacturer, ArmaLite, Inc. The letters stand for ArmaLite Rifle — and not for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle."

Semper Fi
Even I know AR-15-style semiautomatic weapons are ... (show quote)


I have read this before about the AR’s which better defines, by history, what it truly is.... Thank You for posting this too...

I also had a friend show me literally how you can manually modify a hand gun into an AR Type weapon by just the way you hold the gun and trigger...Although I would have no use for it as my two guns are quote sufficient for my needs of safety....

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Feb 24, 2021 20:59:12   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Arya Stark wrote:
Wh**ever the moniker, my brother committed suicide with one of the guns under the *umbrella* term. I guess I don't really understand why anyone would want or need a high-powered rifle. Seems like overk**l. Yeah, it was overk**l for my brother.


The loss of a love one is something we never truly comprehend especially when a life taken as your brother..

I guess I don’t understand suicide as I should but where there is intent to achieve it, many ways available will do so...

My deepest sympathy for you and your families loss..

May your grappling with grief that has been paralyzing beyond comprehension find its peace in time and give you solace as well...

While I do not care for your demeanor, I do care about the hurt you may be going through...

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Feb 24, 2021 22:12:07   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
lindajoy wrote:
The loss of a love one is something we never truly comprehend especially when a life taken as your brother..

I guess I don’t understand suicide as I should but where there is intent to achieve it, many ways available will do so...

My deepest sympathy for you and your families loss..

May your grappling with grief that has been paralyzing beyond comprehension find its peace in time and give you solace as well...

While I do not care for your demeanor, I do care about the hurt you may be going through...
The loss of a love one is something we never truly... (show quote)


Thank you. I lost my oldest brother in 2003, my dad in June 2005, my youngest brother (they were all older) in September 2005, and the last surviving brother died of lung cancer in 2012. It's been hardest for the kids.

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Feb 25, 2021 00:16:50   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Arya Stark wrote:
Thank you. I lost my oldest brother in 2003, my dad in June 2005, my youngest brother (they were all older) in September 2005, and the last surviving brother died of lung cancer in 2012. It's been hardest for the kids.


You are welcome... You certainly have had more than your fair share of losses.

Yes, hardest on the kids but don’t dismiss your own....

I don’t know your religious beliefs and I certainly do not mean to offend you but I wish you Gods blessings...

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Feb 25, 2021 04:47:13   #
Kitten Courageous Loc: The Derelict Ship Maggie's Revenge
 
We all get through the deaths that we inevitably endure and grieve. Our roads must be rocky. We need sinewy old people to guide us to the next stop.

lindajoy wrote:
You are welcome... You certainly have had more than your fair share of losses.

Yes, hardest on the kids but don’t dismiss your own....

I don’t know your religious beliefs and I certainly do not mean to offend you but I wish you Gods blessings...



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Mar 4, 2021 21:06:23   #
promilitary
 
Kevin owns a gun!!!! God help us.

Wonder if he knows how to use it.

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