From quota,

What is the point of having e******n poll watchers if they report irregularities and are ignored?

Jill Grant
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December 13
Avid v**er
None have been ignored, but none were proved either. Some things were nonsense. One person said the room was too warm, a lawyer had to admit that there were more than zero watchers at all times. Yet another said a Chinese food delivery was really b****ts. Another didn’t understand that b****ts in boxes under the tables were legitimate and not ‘secret’. In one case they used a video, and the voice over said one thing, but the facts were another.

In state after state that went for Biden they’ve had fifty suits brought and been before the Supreme Court and wasted a lot of time and money as they lost suit after suit and were laughed out of court. Their lawyers were admonished. Some left in disgust, others were fired.

There is no reason to think Trump had a way to win, he lost and no one is standing in line to give him an office he lost.

Tom, that seems to be the conventional wisdom among Democrats, but you may be surprised about what might happen in that scenario. In the first place, Trump isn't a true conservative, but he is an anti-deepstate person, which you may find reaches into the depths of the Democratic party as well. For instance, I am not in love with the republican party either. They are no better than the Dems. The Dems have been in the habit of moving the Dems to the left each year. The only thing at this point is that both the Dems and the Republicans are stuck in their fight against each other, failing to see the big picture and how it has been evolving over the years. The un-elected bureaucrats are running the Country and did not like being messed with by an outsider, namely Trump. Those who are stuck in the rut of two-party politics are in for a big surprise, that is if they are able to raise their heads long enough to see past the trees and see the forest.

It's simply not possible that there are enough people in America with your diminished capacity of discernment, to have actually cast a v**e for an addle brained simpleton like Creepy Joe.

Therefore, it is correct to surmise that we will continue to remain confident that this act treason has become the most f********t e******n in American history.

We will also continue to support president Trump and as long as he lives we will regard him as the legitimate US president.

I personally am exceedingly amused by the very idea that you poor dumb Goobers actually accept this dufus as your leader.

Fri, Jan 22, by Leland Shenfield

I am an American.

Trump had already stated he would not concede due to e******n f***d.

So let’s talk, honestly and fairly, as these are very strong claims:

Trump supporters allege that there is e******n f***d, and that this e******n f***d cost Trump the Presidency. They say they have proof that this fraud was widespread and coordinated.

The result of their fervent application of the United States Justice system is the following:

All the courts have thrown out, with prejudice, their claims.

All State Legislatures have thrown out their claims, or just refused to hear them.

The head of security for the e******ns, appointed by Trump, said that the e******n was secure and fair. He was fired.

The Attorney General of the United States, probably one of the most ardent Trump supporters that isn’t part of the general population, said there is no evidence of fraud.

IF there was e******n f***d, it would have had to be massive, coordinated, and multi-state.

As e******n officials are from all political stripes, Republicans would have to have been complicit in this massive e******n f***d.

There is not a single e******n board, Lt. Governor, or e******n official that says there was any evidence of fraud AT ALL. Not a single one.

The Supreme Court of the United States gave this response to the complaint that came before them: “The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.” That is SCOTUS-speak for “talk to the hand”.

So, we as Americans have a simple, binary choice:

Trump is arguing with the officials and fans after the game is over, and at the same time setting up a Lost Cause grievance, and his supporters have deluded themselves into believing that there was fraud because they simply cannot accept that they lost. The result of this is that Donald Trump would waive every citizen’s Constitutional rights, effectively destroying the very fabric of this nation in order to support their need for power, OR he lost the e******n fair and square and our nation continues on. Because in the end, one man or even one party is not important. The strength of our nation is important.

Seriously, it is that simple.

Anyone who would consider such a drastic course of action should consider the following items:

In a democracy, should any one party be able to question the integrity of an e******n without more than anecdotal evidence?

Once the judicial system has ruled, should any political party that is truly dedicated to the rule of law and the fabric of our republic and its continuation continue to contest the e******n?

Should any state political party call for a civil war to contest an e******n?

And finally, and this is important: if a sitting President refuses to accept publicly the outcome of an e******n that is determined by e******n officials and the judiciary to be free and fair, whether that president leaves or not, should that ex-president be re-nominated by his political party?

I believe, as a proud American and a republican who has lost his party to nationalistic, jingoistic hooligans, that what the Republican Party did was s*******s, unpatriotic, and toxic to our nation.

Save smart, sensible, fiscal conservatism with a heart for the people, an ear for our challenges, and respect for our republic.

Wow! You I are definitely a minority! Been following politics since ‘64 & am done now. We will NEVER have a Republican pres again. 80 million v**es for a senile, 47 yr do nothing Biden who had very few at rallies! What a disgrace of an e******n; the SC should be ashamed. Repubs are gutless except for my Mo. guy Hawley & they’re trying to destroy him even as I speak. Trump had his problems but GOOD GRIEF, does anyone remember how the economy was even during the “ p******c”?? Does anyone remember what gas prices were, what employment was during “evil” Trump’s admin? Many, many Americans are either very stupid or just badly misinformed. I’m sure progressives on this forum will call me crazy; I could care less. We all are in for a bad 4 years &, God forbid, 8 yrs. May God keep His hand on our country!

Fri, Jan 22, by Leland Shenfield

I am an American.

Trump had already stated he would not concede due to e******n f***d.

So let’s talk, honestly and fairly, as these are very strong claims:

Trump supporters allege that there is e******n f***d, and that this e******n f***d cost Trump the Presidency. They say they have proof that this fraud was widespread and coordinated.

The result of their fervent application of the United States Justice system is the following:

All the courts have thrown out, with prejudice, their claims.

All State Legislatures have thrown out their claims, or just refused to hear them.

The head of security for the e******ns, appointed by Trump, said that the e******n was secure and fair. He was fired.

The Attorney General of the United States, probably one of the most ardent Trump supporters that isn’t part of the general population, said there is no evidence of fraud.

IF there was e******n f***d, it would have had to be massive, coordinated, and multi-state.

As e******n officials are from all political stripes, Republicans would have to have been complicit in this massive e******n f***d.

There is not a single e******n board, Lt. Governor, or e******n official that says there was any evidence of fraud AT ALL. Not a single one.

The Supreme Court of the United States gave this response to the complaint that came before them: “The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.” That is SCOTUS-speak for “talk to the hand”.

So, we as Americans have a simple, binary choice:

Trump is arguing with the officials and fans after the game is over, and at the same time setting up a Lost Cause grievance, and his supporters have deluded themselves into believing that there was fraud because they simply cannot accept that they lost. The result of this is that Donald Trump would waive every citizen’s Constitutional rights, effectively destroying the very fabric of this nation in order to support their need for power, OR he lost the e******n fair and square and our nation continues on. Because in the end, one man or even one party is not important. The strength of our nation is important.

Seriously, it is that simple.

Anyone who would consider such a drastic course of action should consider the following items:

In a democracy, should any one party be able to question the integrity of an e******n without more than anecdotal evidence?

Once the judicial system has ruled, should any political party that is truly dedicated to the rule of law and the fabric of our republic and its continuation continue to contest the e******n?

Should any state political party call for a civil war to contest an e******n?

And finally, and this is important: if a sitting President refuses to accept publicly the outcome of an e******n that is determined by e******n officials and the judiciary to be free and fair, whether that president leaves or not, should that ex-president be re-nominated by his political party?

I believe, as a proud American and a republican who has lost his party to nationalistic, jingoistic hooligans, that what the Republican Party did was s*******s, unpatriotic, and toxic to our nation.

Save smart, sensible, fiscal conservatism with a heart for the people, an ear for our challenges, and respect for our republic.