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Jan 24, 2021 17:35:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 



I have read about this Texas case some time ago.. it seems worse then ridiculous.. if this is all the story to be found it seem to be cruelty in my judgement.. but if right wing pubs I would look for more information on the situation, as in why the heck was the mother so nuts and demanding about it . in the picture, as a little boy, he look s normal..

and for the record.. none of this g****r stuff is any sort of democrat goal..



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Jan 24, 2021 17:37:42   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:


What g****r was the goose that day?

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Jan 24, 2021 18:19:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
What g****r was the goose that day?



He was/is a hardy young male... named Keewee... why? I have no idea, some young boy, the same one who thought he should be in the house named him that after the vine thing we have in the garden.. hardy keywee as in what is sold in the produce section. but very much smaller.. but survives way up here..

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Jan 24, 2021 20:48:12   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
We are a nation of laws and those laws should be enforced for everyone...

I can not get my head around any department of education coming to that conclusion. not even mention the g****r identity you post.. simply crazy..

rights are one thing for it to become as you post is beyond my grasp....

to be more clear.... a real t*********r perhaps should compete, depending on some degree of change.. but someone who simply has an opinion or wish.. NO..


What exactly is a ‘real t*********r’?

However, someone who simply has an opinion is protected by the law. It’s the ‘self identify’ part.

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Jan 24, 2021 21:23:11   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:
He was/is a hardy young male... named Keewee... why? I have no idea, some young boy, the same one who thought he should be in the house named him that after the vine thing we have in the garden.. hardy keywee as in what is sold in the produce section. but very much smaller.. but survives way up here..


Had to fight off a gander who was attacking my wife. Aggressive and capable them geese. It was during nesting season and I guess we got too close to the eggs in the nest.

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Jan 25, 2021 08:51:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
American Vet wrote:
What exactly is a ‘real t*********r’?

However, someone who simply has an opinion is protected by the law. It’s the ‘self identify’ part.



Real t*********r.. as I used the term,,, a person who has had the surgery to change to outward g****r organs so they are physically the opposite sex..

You continue to misconstrue the EO, and knowing you will never stop regardless of t***h and facts... have a nice day.. enjoy the sunshine. It can help you see clearly if you let it..



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Jan 25, 2021 08:52:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Had to fight off a gander who was attacking my wife. Aggressive and capable them geese. It was during nesting season and I guess we got too close to the eggs in the nest.


That will happen, geese can be very aggressive.. part of the appeal, as long as I keep an eye open...

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Jan 25, 2021 09:34:51   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
Real t*********r.. as I used the term,,, a person who has had the surgery to change to outward g****r organs so they are physically the opposite sex..

You continue to misconstrue the EO, and knowing you will never stop regardless of t***h and facts... have a nice day.. enjoy the sunshine. It can help you see clearly if you let it..


Surgery is but one part. Massive hormone therapy is also involved.

Please explain what part of the EO I am misconstruing.

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Jan 25, 2021 09:41:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
American Vet wrote:
Surgery is but one part. Massive hormone therapy is also involved.

Please explain what part of the EO I am misconstruing.


Read the EO for yourself, it is easy to find and I have no faith that I can tell you what part you do not understand.

But it is clear that the things you believe are in it has been second hand information and not the words of the EO itself..

Yes, hormone therapy in involved.



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Jan 25, 2021 10:24:44   #
SWMBO
 
permafrost wrote:
That would be a horrible way to grow up...

In all my life the only time I have heard any sort of like comment was a couple girls proclaiming they should have been boys, because the boys got all the attention.. far from the same and perhaps, not addressing such issues I would not even recall such g****r comments.

That sort of behavior by parents is the most offensive I can think of.. just cruel...


It certainly is. By the way, I was always considered a tomboy because I hatted dolls (Give me a puppy any day) would prefer jeans to a dress (still do, have only one dress in the closet, and have NEVER worn it) However, I never thought I was a boy nor did I wish that I had been born one. Farm kids have the advantage over city kids there because, at least when I was growing up, EVERYONE did what ever needed to be done to keep the farm going and complaining about it just increased your work and reduced the size of your meals (as in "go to bed without dinner, if you are not working, you aren't eating") However, a number of parents do what ever they can to screw up their kids. Walt Heyer's book about "What happened at Grandmas house" is a must read in the field as it explains some of the later effects of this type of abuse.

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Jan 25, 2021 10:41:32   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
Read the EO for yourself, it is easy to find and I have no faith that I can tell you what part you do not understand.

But it is clear that the things you believe are in it has been second hand information and not the words of the EO itself..

Yes, hormone therapy in involved.


I did read it. Here is the pertinent excerpt.

“All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their g****r identity or sexual orientation.”

Here is the definition of g****r identity:

“The term g****r identity refers to the personal sense of an individual’s own g****r. A person’s sex and g****r identity do not have to be the same.

That means a young man can ‘identify’ as female....and thus accorded that status by the EO. That ‘equal treatment’ means “he” must be treated as a girl.

Do you disagree?

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Jan 25, 2021 14:00:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
SWMBO wrote:
It certainly is. By the way, I was always considered a tomboy because I hatted dolls (Give me a puppy any day) would prefer jeans to a dress (still do, have only one dress in the closet, and have NEVER worn it) However, I never thought I was a boy nor did I wish that I had been born one. Farm kids have the advantage over city kids there because, at least when I was growing up, EVERYONE did what ever needed to be done to keep the farm going and complaining about it just increased your work and reduced the size of your meals (as in "go to bed without dinner, if you are not working, you aren't eating") However, a number of parents do what ever they can to screw up their kids. Walt Heyer's book about "What happened at Grandmas house" is a must read in the field as it explains some of the later effects of this type of abuse.
It certainly is. By the way, I was always consider... (show quote)



Well put and you are also clear.. Thanks... Maybe we need more farm kids today.. we were all ok back then..

Never expected to, but I love all the little ones..
Never expected to, but I love all the little ones....

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Jan 25, 2021 14:05:20   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
American Vet wrote:
I did read it. Here is the pertinent excerpt.

“All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their g****r identity or sexual orientation.”

Here is the definition of g****r identity:

“The term g****r identity refers to the personal sense of an individual’s own g****r. A person’s sex and g****r identity do not have to be the same.

That means a young man can ‘identify’ as female....and thus accorded that status by the EO. That ‘equal treatment’ means “he” must be treated as a girl.

Do you disagree?
I did read it. Here is the pertinent excerpt. br ... (show quote)



That seems one more stretch and spin by the right wing.. the usual..

Now if that is the correct conclusion, which I say no,, but would you young boy, who thinks he is a girl, then molest or attack the young darling girls in the shower with him??? seems a contradiction,, your conclusion is wrong or your predicted actions are wrong.. your choice..



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Jan 25, 2021 18:18:37   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
That seems one more stretch and spin by the right wing.. the usual..

Now if that is the correct conclusion, which I say no,, but would you young boy, who thinks he is a girl, then molest or attack the young darling girls in the shower with him??? seems a contradiction,, your conclusion is wrong or your predicted actions are wrong.. your choice..


Would you want your 13 year old daughter to shower with a boy - even if not “attacked”?

Here are some links; review the info for yourself.....

https://www.wral.com/l**t-community-applauds-bidens-anti-discrimination-order/19482688/

https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/bidens-exec-order-unlevels-the-playing-field-for-girls/

https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/01/21/after-inaugural-rhetoric-on-unity-biden-signs-d******e-t*********r-executive-order/

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jan/22/t*********r-athletes-joe-biden-executive-order

https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/joe-biden-sparks-terf-war-with-g****r-discrimination-order/

http://shoebat.com/2021/01/23/terf-war-feminists-blow-up-over-biden-t*********r-executive-order/

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Jan 26, 2021 08:08:46   #
promilitary
 
kittykatt wrote:
On Biden's first day in office he has signed 17 executive orders including the following:

1. virtually eliminating girls' sports by allowing boys to compete in them by saying that they are girls,
2. rescinding the Keystone Pipeline virtually costing thousands of people jobs and thousands in loss of income,
3. forces the US to rejoin the Paris Climate Accord which only affects American jobs and economy and not the biggest polluters of the planet, and other executive orders.

I hope that those of you out there who supported him and v**ed for him are happy with these things that he has done. And that's only his first day in office. There are still 1,460 days left for him to be in office. At least when Trump was president he put Americans and America first. Can you say the same of Biden? I dare you to.
On Biden's first day in office he has signed 17 ex... (show quote)





Biden doesn't have a clue what he's signing......he just signs wh**ever his handlers give him.

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