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Jan 21, 2021 16:35:31   #
Singularity
 
Tsfedup wrote:
Woody.........parky said Nothing about division and war! And being enemies. What did you read? He spoke the t***h right out of the Bible.
Wh**ever man


Perhaps the poster is referring to the title of the thread and the quote from Ephesians regarding spiritual warfare. Strong metaphors.

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Jan 21, 2021 16:44:20   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
I was a church going Christian all my life. Here's what I see Christians doing. Complaining that we have taken Christ out of Christmas. "Happy Holidays" is acknowledging that other religious groups are celebrating their faith on different days. How would you like it if I came to your house and spoke only to the women and ignored the men. I see Christians claiming a tax exemption even though they may be raking in thousands every week. I see Christians refusing to serve people because their beliefs are different from their own. I saw Christians claiming Trump as a Savior. Claiming they are pro-life but doing nothing about executions or children in cages.
You want to tell me what wonderful things Christians are advocating?
I was a church going Christian all my life. Here's... (show quote)

I’ll only tell you that the cages were Obama’s.
I’ll not defend Christian values with you, it’s clear that it’s a waste of time.

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Jan 21, 2021 16:49:54   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
I was a church going Christian all my life. Here's what I see Christians doing. Complaining that we have taken Christ out of Christmas. "Happy Holidays" is acknowledging that other religious groups are celebrating their faith on different days. How would you like it if I came to your house and spoke only to the women and ignored the men. I see Christians claiming a tax exemption even though they may be raking in thousands every week. I see Christians refusing to serve people because their beliefs are different from their own. I saw Christians claiming Trump as a Savior. Claiming they are pro-life but doing nothing about executions or children in cages.
You want to tell me what wonderful things Christians are advocating?
I was a church going Christian all my life. Here's... (show quote)

Do you want to know what Christianity is all about? Read Matthew 28:19-20 or Mark 16:15. This is what Christians should be doing.

Jesus said, I am THE way, THE t***h and THE life. NO ONE comes to the Father except THROUGH ME (emphasis mine) John 14:6.

There is only ONE WAY!

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Jan 21, 2021 17:10:22   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
I’ll only tell you that the cages were Obama’s.
I’ll not defend Christian values with you, it’s clear that it’s a waste of time.


We have seen the new Christian values that gave us trump for 4 years.

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Jan 21, 2021 17:39:20   #
Monfria
 
Parky60 wrote:
Do you want to know what Christianity is all about? Read Matthew 28:19-20 or Mark 16:15. This is what Christians should be doing.

Jesus said, I am THE way, THE t***h and THE life. NO ONE comes to the Father except THROUGH ME (emphasis mine) John 14:6.

There is only ONE WAY!


Millions and millions of muslims also think there’s only one way. You think they are wrong, they think you are wrong.

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Jan 21, 2021 17:43:51   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
You don't know anything more about Jesus than I do. We both gained what we know (or think we know) through what other people have said (and that includes the Bible, which is in simple terms, a storybook written by people who actually thought the world was flat.)

One of those people was Paul and I have read a lot of what he wrote... and it makes no difference to my argument. Paul had his opinions, I have mine. The only difference is I have the benefit of another 1800 years of discovery to draw from, which probably makes my opinions more educated.

I think it's hilarious that you have to refer to the Bible to "prove your point" when I already explained that the Bible is just another book. You may as well tell me to read Harry Potter to prove that witches are real.

If this is all you got, then we're done. But I'm a sucker for interesting arguments, so if there is anything specific about the Pauline books that conflict with what I said earlier, then please explain it. Don't just tell me to read the Harry Potter books hoping that I will somehow be convinced I can fly on a broom.
You don't know anything more about Jesus than I do... (show quote)


Very interesting that you call the Bible a story book and then in all probability read the f**e news, New York Times and watch CNN, the f**e tv network. I'm sure you believe their fairytales. By the way, the Bible has been proven to be scientifically accurate and archaeologically factual. Get a real life "CrookedMan" and quit living in a f**e dream world.

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Jan 21, 2021 17:52:13   #
Rcki
 
Sesession

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Jan 21, 2021 17:55:00   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Monfria wrote:
Millions and millions of muslims also think there’s only one way. You think they are wrong, they think you are wrong.

Islam is a false religion with a false god.

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Jan 21, 2021 17:57:08   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
I was a church going Christian all my life. Here's what I see Christians doing. Complaining that we have taken Christ out of Christmas. "Happy Holidays" is acknowledging that other religious groups are celebrating their faith on different days. How would you like it if I came to your house and spoke only to the women and ignored the men. I see Christians claiming a tax exemption even though they may be raking in thousands every week. I see Christians refusing to serve people because their beliefs are different from their own. I saw Christians claiming Trump as a Savior. Claiming they are pro-life but doing nothing about executions or children in cages.
You want to tell me what wonderful things Christians are advocating?
I was a church going Christian all my life. Here's... (show quote)


You can cherry-pick things out of every group. There are always a few bad seeds. Open your mind!

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Jan 21, 2021 17:59:31   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
We have seen the new Christian values that gave us trump for 4 years.


No, that was Hillary's and Obama's fault.

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Jan 21, 2021 18:06:42   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Larry Joe wrote:
StraightUp, I actually agree with most of your well written article. I really wish we would stop using God, Jesus and the Bible to try and justify various political points. Of course this nation was founded in Western Judo-Christian philosophy and it has worked very well for 244 years, but our Founders were very careful to keep government and religion separate. It is not possible to know what is in God’s “mind” so please, everyone, what God is up to.
A Christian Consetween Church and State.rvative Friend,
Larry Joe
StraightUp, I actually agree with most of your wel... (show quote)


It wasn't so much to separate government and religion as to prevent the government from establishing an official state-recognized religion. Nowhere in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, nor the Declaration of Independence does it say anything about a separation between church and state. The Second Amendment enshrines the freedom [b]of[/] religion, not freedom from religion.

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Jan 21, 2021 18:10:58   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Bad Bob wrote:
We have seen the new Christian values that gave us trump for 4 years.


You’ll look back at the Trump years and call it the good old days!

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Jan 21, 2021 18:12:50   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Monfria wrote:
Millions and millions of muslims also think there’s only one way. You think they are wrong, they think you are wrong.


I KNOW Muslim believers are wrong.
I’m in dwelled by the Holy Spirit.

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Jan 21, 2021 18:17:20   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
I KNOW Muslim believers are wrong.
I’m in dwelled by the Holy Spirit.


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Jan 21, 2021 18:17:43   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Parky60 wrote:
Islam is a false religion with a false god.


Islam believes in the same God of Christianity and Judaism. Islam is more than a religion. It is a guidebook and way of life for everything, including religion, society, culture, morals, law, government, and all things in life. I don't believe in most of it. I don't believe that Mohammad was spoken to by the Angel Gabriel either. But if it makes people act with moral values, such as most religions do, it can be a good thing. However, too many unenlightened leaders and clerics of Islam do not follow the spirit of what is written in the Koran and have ignorantly issued or follow many of the hadiths that have bastardized the religion into something it is not. Also, if Muslims cannot accept that the Constitution is the supreme law in America, then they have no business living here and should leave. Islam is desperately in need of a reformation.

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