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thebigp
 
Newsmax reviewed the full tape and transcript of President Trump’s call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. The transcript shows the President pressed the Secretary on serious v**e f***d issues in Georgia and Trump never acted improperly.

Trump Ga. Transcript Shows Case for V**e F***d, President Acted Properly
President Donald Trump (AP)
By Newsmax Wires | Sunday, 03 January 2021 09:35 PM
The Washington Post on Sunday released audio of a Saturday phone call between President Donald Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in which the two can be heard discussing e******n results.The Post initially released snippets of the hour-long call in which Trump can be heard discussing e******n results with Raffensperger and his lawyer Ryan Germany.
Also joining the call was White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Trump campaign lawyer Cleta Mitchell.Trump lays out numerous examples of double v****g, dead people v****g, and other b****t irregularities and anomalies.
Raffensperger and Germany counter Trump's assertions largely with simple claims that the matters Trump raised have been investigated.
Trump insists he won Georgia's p**********l e******n on Nov. 3 and claims widespread fraud deprived him of that victory.The Washington Post claimed that in his talk with Raffensperger, Trump "repeatedly urged him to alter the outcome of the p**********l v**e in the state."
This claim is false.
The transcript of the call shows Trump demanding an honest accounting of the b****ts, which he says would give him more than 11,000 v**es.Several key excerpts of the conversation follow.
Trump Lays Out B****t Fraud, Irregularities:
But we've had hundreds of thousands of b****ts that we're able to actually — we'll get you a pretty accurate number.You don't need much of a number because the number that in theory I lost by, the margin would be 11,779.But you also have a substantial numbers of people, thousands and thousands, who went to the v****g place on November 3, were told they couldn't v**e, were told they couldn't v**e because a b****t had been put on their name. And you know that's very, very, very, very sad.We had, I believe it's about 4,502 v**ers who v**ed but who weren't on the v***r r**********n list, so it's 4,502 who v**ed, but they weren't on the v***r r**********n roll, which they had to be. You had 18,325 vacant address v**ers. The address was vacant, and they're not allowed to be counted. That's 18,325.
Smaller number — you had 904 who only v**ed where they had just a P.O. — a post office box number — and they had a post office box number, and that's not allowed.
Trump Says Fulton County Videotape Shows Massive Fraud:
We had at least 18,000 — that's on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 v**ers having to do with [name]. She's a v**e s**mmer, a professional v**e s**mmer and hustler [name].That was the [Fulton County] tape that's been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you, me and everybody else.Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it's been reported that they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area.
And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people.
There were no Republican poll watchers.Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers, I guess they were them.But there were no Democrats, either, and there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, early in the morning, they went to the table with the black robe and the black shield, and they pulled out the v**es.Those v**es were put there a number of hours before — the table was put there — I think it was, Brad, you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before, and then it was stuffed with v**es.They weren't in an official v**er box; they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases, but they weren't in v**er boxes.The minimum number it could be because we watched it, and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it, but slow motion, and it was magnified many times over, and the minimum it was 18,000 b****ts, all for Biden.
Trump Cites More Examples of Fraud:
You had out-of-state v**ers. They v**ed in Georgia, but they were from out of state, of 4,925.You had absentee b****ts sent to vacant, they were absentee b****ts sent to vacant addresses. They had nothing on them about addresses, that's 2,326.And you had dropboxes, which is very bad. You had dropboxes that were picked up. We have photographs, and we have affidavits from many people.
I don't know if you saw the hearings, but you have dropboxes where the box was picked up but not delivered for three days.So all sorts of things could have happened to that box, including, you know, putting in the v**es that you wanted.So there were many infractions, and the bottom line is, many, many times the 11,779 margin that they said we lost by — we had vast, I mean the state is in turmoil over this.
Trump: Says Many Dead People V**ed:
The other thing, dead people.So dead people v**ed, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 v**ers.The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 f**e b****ts.Then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas. And this may or may not be true . . . this just came up this morning, that they are burning their b****ts, that they are shredding, shredding b****ts and removing equipment. . . .
And they supposedly shredded I think they said 300 pounds of, 3,000 pounds of b****ts. And that just came to us as a report today. And it is a very sad situation.But Brad, if you took the minimum numbers where many, many times above the 11,779, and many of those numbers are certified, or they will be certified, but they are certified.And those are numbers that are there, that exist. And that beat the margin of loss, they beat it, I mean, by a lot, and people should be happy to have an accurate count instead of an e******n where there's turmoil.
Trump Sees Fraud Also in Michigan, Pennsylvania:
I mean there's turmoil in Georgia and other places.You're not the only one, I mean, we have other states that I believe will be flipping to us very shortly. And this is something that — you know, as an example, I think it in Detroit, I think there's a section, a good section of your state actually, which we're not sure so we're not going to report it yet.But in Detroit, we had, I think it was, 139 percent of the people v**ed. That's not too good.In Pennsylvania, they had well over 200,000 more v**es than they had people v****g. And that doesn't play too well, and the legislature there is, which is Republican, is extremely activist and angry.I mean, there were other things also that were almost as bad as that. But they had as an example, in Michigan, a tremendous number of dead people that v**ed.
I think it was, I think, Mark, it was 18,000.Some unbelievably high number, much higher than yours, you were in the 4-5,000 category.
Raffensperger Claims Only 2 Dead People V**ed:
Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen, and they were surprised.But they — I guess there was a person named Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data, and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000.The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that v**ed. So that's wrong.
Raffensperger Claims Video Did Not Show Fraud:
You're talking about the State Farm video.And I think it's extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context.The next day, we brought in WSB-TV, and we let them show, see the full run of tape, and what you'll see, the events that t***spired are nowhere near what was projected by, you know —
Trump Disputes Raffensperger:
But where were the poll watchers, Brad?There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.It was late in the evening, late in the, early in the morning, and there was nobody else in the room.Where were the poll watchers, and why did they say a water main broke, which they did and which was reported in the newspapers? They said they left.They ran out because of a water main break, and there was no water main. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no water main break.But we're, if you take out everything, where were the Republican poll watchers, even where were the Democrat pollwatchers, because there were none.And then you say, well, they left their station, you know, if you look at the tape, and this was, this was reviewed by professional police and detectives and other people, when they left in a rush, everybody left in a rush because of the water main, but everybody left in a rush.
These people left their station.When they came back, they didn't go to their station.They went to the apron, wrapped around the table, under which were thousands and thousands of b****ts in a box that was not an official or a sealed box. And then they took those.They went back to a different station.So if they would have come back, they would have walked to their station, and they would have continued to work.
But they couldn't do even that because that's illegal, because they had no Republican poll watchers.And remember, her reputation is — she's known all over the Internet, Brad. She's known all over.I'm telling you, "Where's [name] " was one of the hot items . . . [name] They knew her. "Where's [name]?" So Brad, there can be no justification for that. And I, you know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. But that was — and Brad, why did they put the v**es in three times? You know, they put 'em in three times.
Raffensperger Disputes:
Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that, and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.
Trump Demands to Know:Where was everybody else at that late time in the morning? Where was everybody? Where were the Republicans? Where were the security guards?Were the people that were there just a little while before when everyone ran out of the room.How come we had no security in the room. Why did they run to the bottom of the table?Why do they run there and just open the skirt and rip out the v**es. I mean, Brad.And they were sitting there, I think for five hours or something like that, the v**es.
Raffensperger Dismisses the Question:
Mr. President, we'll send you the link from WSB.
Trump Says No Signature Verification:
No, no you don't [Brad]. No, no you don't. You don't have. Not even close.You're off by hundreds of thousands of v**es.And just on the small numbers, you're off on these numbers, and these numbers can't be just — well, why wont? — Okay.So you sent us into Cobb County for signature verification, right?You sent us into Cobb County, which we didn't want to go into. And you said it would be open to the public. So we had our experts there, they weren't allowed into the room.But we didn't want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County.And you wouldn't give it to us. Now, why aren't we doing signature — and why can't it be open to the public?And why can't we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs who will never find anything and don't want to find anything?They don't want to find, you know they don't want to find anything.Someday you'll tell me the reason why, because I don't understand your reasoning, but someday you'll tell me the reason why. But why don't you want to find?
Trump Says 100% of Military B****ts Go for Biden:
And what about that batch of military b****ts that came in.And even though I won the military by a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about that?
A large group of b****ts came in, I think it was to Fulton County, and they just happened to be 100 percent for Trump — for Biden — even though T***p w*n the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But these b****ts were 100 percent for Biden.
And do you know about that?A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. Does anybody know about it? . . .Okay, Cleta, I'm not asking you, Cleta, honestly. I'm asking Brad. Do you know about the military b****ts that we have confirmed now. Do you know about the military b****ts that came in that were 100 percent, I mean 100 percent, for Biden. Do you know about that?
Raffensperger Attorney Germany Responds:
I don't know about that. I do know that we have, when military b****ts come in, it's not just military, it's also military and overseas citizens. The military part of that does generally go Republican. The overseas citizen part of it generally goes very Democrat. This was a mix of 'em.
Trump Continues:
No, but this was. That's okay. But I got like 78 percent of the military. These b****ts were all for . . . They didn't tell me overseas.Could be overseas, too, but I get v**es overseas, too, Ryan, in all fairness.No they came in, a large batch came in, and it was, quote, 100 percent for Biden. And that is criminal.
You know, that's criminal. Okay. That's another criminal, that's another of the many criminal events, many criminal events here.I don't know, look, Brad. I got to get . . . I have to find 12,000 v**es, and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. That's before we go to the next step, which is in the process of right now. You know, and I watched you this morning, and you said, well, there was no criminality.But I mean all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it's very dangerous for you to say that.
Trump: I Only Need 11,000 V**es
So what are we going to do here, folks?
I only need 11,000 v**es. Fellas, I need 11,000 v**es. Give me a break.You know, we have that in spades already.Or we can keep it going, but that's not fair to the v**ers of Georgia because they're going to see what happened, and they're going to see what happened.I mean, I'll, I'll take on anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I'm sure. But, but [name] . . . I will take on anybody you want.And the minimum, there were 18,000 b****ts, but they used them three times. So that's, you know, a lot of v**es. And they were all to Biden, by the way, that's the other thing we didn't say.
You know, [name] , the one thing I forgot to say, which was the most important. You know that every single b****t she did went to Biden. You know that, right? Do you know that, by the way, Brad?Every single b****t that she did through the machines at early, early in the morning went to Biden. Did you know that, Ryan?
Germany Responds:
That's not accurate, Mr. President. . . . The numbers that we are showing are accurate.
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Jan 19, 2021 16:14:45   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Wrong.

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Jan 19, 2021 16:17:36   #
BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY
 
"I only need 11,000 v**es. Fellas, I need 11,000 v**es." Trump was asking them to somehow find v**es for him after the e******n. This is illegal, and hopefully will be included in his impeachment trial.

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Jan 19, 2021 16:24:57   #
PeterS
 
The problem is, all those 'serious' fraud issues were made up by Trump and his cronies so if Trump pressed anyone about the hypothetical fraud that he created that would be improper right there. Simply because you think someone is supposed to believe your 'big' lie that doesn't mean they are going to especially after they've done two recounts on using the original paper b****ts. If there was any c***ting it was done in a manner where ZERO evidence was left behind.

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Jan 19, 2021 16:32:45   #
EmilyD
 
BBZ wrote:
"I only need 11,000 v**es. Fellas, I need 11,000 v**es." Trump was asking them to somehow find v**es for him after the e******n. This is illegal, and hopefully will be included in his impeachment trial.


How does "I only need X number of v**es" mean "Go find me some illegal v**es"??? It doesn't.

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Jan 19, 2021 17:26:36   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
EmilyD wrote:
How does "I only need X number of v**es" mean "Go find me some illegal v**es"??? It doesn't.


But they can read his mind! 👿

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Jan 19, 2021 17:30:59   #
ChJoe
 
BBZ wrote:
"I only need 11,000 v**es. Fellas, I need 11,000 v**es." Trump was asking them to somehow find v**es for him after the e******n. This is illegal, and hopefully will be included in his impeachment trial.


Actually he's saying that they would find more v**es for him it they would investigate the v***r f***d and throw out illegal v**es, following their own state laws on the subject. He's no more asking for them to give him v**es in an illegal manner than he demanded anything of the Ukraine president.

The Trump h**ers have serious cognitive disorders; one being the ability to understand English.

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Jan 19, 2021 17:35:19   #
woodguru
 
EmilyD wrote:
How does "I only need X number of v**es" mean "Go find me some illegal v**es"??? It doesn't.


Because he suggested some places the v**es could "be found", along with stating that he needed to "get" people who wanted to find them, as opposed to people who were okay with facts.

You are obtusely and willfully refusing to consider the fact that trump even making this call was outside of any acceptable actions, he was attempting to interfere and influence people that needed no such help.

Making the call was a criminal violation all by itself, you all have gotten used to trump openly making such interference calls. If Biden ever suggests that his AG ever look into or go after an opponent he should rightly be impeached....a double standard because the right saw nothing wrong with trump tweeting such calls for action.

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Jan 19, 2021 17:55:32   #
ChJoe
 
woodguru wrote:
Because he suggested some places the v**es could "be found", along with stating that he needed to "get" people who wanted to find them, as opposed to people who were okay with facts.

You are obtusely and willfully refusing to consider the fact that trump even making this call was outside of any acceptable actions, he was attempting to interfere and influence people that needed no such help.

Making the call was a criminal violation all by itself, you all have gotten used to trump openly making such interference calls. If Biden ever suggests that his AG ever look into or go after an opponent he should rightly be impeached....a double standard because the right saw nothing wrong with trump tweeting such calls for action.
Because he suggested some places the v**es could &... (show quote)


Show us where Trump made a demand of the Ukraine president. You h**ers hear voices in the dark reaches of your mind's h**e.

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Jan 19, 2021 19:19:10   #
EmilyD
 
woodguru wrote:
Because he suggested some places the v**es could "be found", along with stating that he needed to "get" people who wanted to find them, as opposed to people who were okay with facts.

You are obtusely and willfully refusing to consider the fact that trump even making this call was outside of any acceptable actions, he was attempting to interfere and influence people that needed no such help.

Making the call was a criminal violation all by itself, you all have gotten used to trump openly making such interference calls. If Biden ever suggests that his AG ever look into or go after an opponent he should rightly be impeached....a double standard because the right saw nothing wrong with trump tweeting such calls for action.
Because he suggested some places the v**es could &... (show quote)


Amazing! How can you sleep with yourself at night?!!? Such typical liberal spinning and twisting and turning what was going on - in the dead of night in Georgia!!!! Trump was saying very clearly that if they did a thorough investigation of the faulty D******n machines (that were proven faulty in so many other states that Texas wouldn't even use them!) as well investigating the "practice" of pulling suitcases full of b****ts from under a table late at night AFTER they told everyone, including the poll watchers, to go home for the night, and that they would continue to count in the morning, that they would most likely find at least the 11,000 v**es that would have shown him winning. Oh, and don't forget how they sent everyone home because there was a "huge water main break" (that turned out to be an overflowed urinal), and after the poll watchers left, went back to "counting" v**es. There were videos and pictures of people WRITING on b****ts! Why would a person who is supposed to be counting v**es be writing on b****ts??

You can try to cover it up with your spinning and twisting of the facts, but nothing you say will make me (and I believe lots of others, including quite a few Democrat friends of mine) from believing that something was rotten in Georgia on e******n night.

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Jan 19, 2021 19:27:28   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
EmilyD wrote:
How does "I only need X number of v**es" mean "Go find me some illegal v**es"??? It doesn't.


When you talk to a gangster you need to listen like a gangster.

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Jan 19, 2021 19:31:34   #
EmilyD
 
Milosia2 wrote:
When you talk to a gangster you need to listen like a gangster.


So depending on how you talk, you should be impeached or not. Ya, that makes a lot of sense. But considering the source, I'm not surprised with the thought process....

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Jan 19, 2021 19:37:19   #
ChJoe
 
EmilyD wrote:
So depending on how you talk, you should be impeached or not. Ya, that makes a lot of sense. But considering the source, I'm not surprised with the thought process....


Exactly.

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Jan 20, 2021 07:28:54   #
Dwbill Loc: Sunvalley,NV
 
BBZ wrote:
"I only need 11,000 v**es. Fellas, I need 11,000 v**es." Trump was asking them to somehow find v**es for him after the e******n. This is illegal, and hopefully will be included in his impeachment trial.

No matter how much proof there is about v***r f***d ,people will say ,that's not true !proof is not enough!!

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Jan 20, 2021 08:54:47   #
BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Dwbill wrote:
No matter how much proof there is about v***r f***d ,people will say ,that's not true !proof is not enough!!


We had a president who was not too bright, but was an amazing salesman. He was able to convince people that what they were seeing was not real, and aides like Sarah Sanders, Kellyann Conway, and Kayleigh McEnany were able to tell lies with sk**l. He conned American terrorists into attacking the Capitol Building because he did not like the results. I am hoping Biden does a good job and is boring. We need a break.

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