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Jan 16, 2021 01:14:02   #
eden
 
JW wrote:
If he goes meekly into oblivion, I might agree with some of what you suggest but I'll wait until that happens before surrendering to disappointment.

However, let me pose a 'what-if'; what if it turns out that he did not lose the e******n and that the military adores him? However certain you are about your convictions, what if?


I think you enjoy attention, even negative attention is better than nothing right?
Ok we’ll pat you on the head and humor you for now but it’s over, really, no really over.
My advice: look for another hero but this time find a decent moderate Conservative who walks his talk. No more angry misogynistic criminal nutters ...ok.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:19:23   #
eden
 
JW wrote:
Actually, that is not what he said. Look it up. He said that the Parliamentarian had informed him that he had to count the v**es that were sanctioned by the states. Don't be too sure about the 20th either. Just saying, save some of that limb for a place to sit.


I expected this prevarication so enjoy stepping on an ant while a hyena carries off one of your children. Pence is reported to have called Kamala Harris and he has also indicated he will attend the inauguration, but go ahead and pick lint off that too.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:19:42   #
JW
 
Kevyn wrote:
The British used the term trump for fart, it carries more weight and stench this side of the pond.


One thing I really am unimpressed by in this current crop of Liberal loons is their remarkable meanness, (meanness = low station in life, lack of quality or attractiveness; shabbiness of intellectual acuity).

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Jan 16, 2021 01:25:03   #
eden
 
JW wrote:
I'll tell you what; wait a week, and if it really looks like you were correct, I'll apologize publicly for ever doubting you. You make the same pledge and we'll consider it an agreement.


I will make that pledge but just to be clear you are denying that Biden will be sworn in as President on January 20 is that correct?

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Jan 16, 2021 01:26:26   #
Zenbeauty Loc: Live Free or Die
 
JW wrote:
If he goes meekly into oblivion, I might agree with some of what you suggest but I'll wait until that happens before surrendering to disappointment.

However, let me pose a 'what-if'; what if it turns out that he did not lose the e******n and that the military adores him? However certain you are about your convictions, what if?


Well, I can only state the knowledge I have and my opinions. Nothing more. I share your disappointment but for different reasons. You see, I’m a humanitarian. I care about people. I care about what happens to people. People I know and people I don’t know. I’m also a t***h seeker. And the t***h today is that regardless of e******n f***d, regardless if the President won the e******n or not, he was removed from office. The military leadership [good, honorable men, admirals and generals], lost faith in his ability to lead our nation. Many powerful Republican politicians also felt he needed to be limited to one term. Enlisted men and women may still admire the President and they have every right to do so. Please know that as a fellow American my wish is that we find some common ground on which to stand United, going forward without anymore blood shed.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:26:46   #
JW
 
eden wrote:
I think you enjoy attention, even negative attention is better than nothing right?
Ok we’ll pat you on the head and humor you for now but it’s over, really, no really over.
My advice: look for another hero but this time find a decent moderate Conservative who walks his talk. No more angry misogynistic criminal nutters ...ok.


No one enjoys negative attention, I less so than most. However, I have discovered that when an adversary reaches his or her intellectual limits, I have to expect it. The only real solution is to try to keep things on a level you are capable of grasping... or ignore you.

I've been in a bad mood today. Bad moods call for saying it like it is... sticking as much as possible to two syllable words.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:31:16   #
JW
 
Zenbeauty wrote:
Well, I can only state the knowledge I have and my opinions. Nothing more. I share your disappointment but for different reasons. You see, I’m a humanitarian. I care about people. I care about what happens to people. People I know and people I don’t know. I’m also a t***h seeker. And the t***h today is that regardless of e******n f***d, regardless if the President won the e******n or not, he was removed from office. The military leadership [good, honorable men, admirals and generals], lost faith in his ability to lead our nation. Many powerful Republican politicians also felt he needed to be limited to one term. Enlisted men and women may still admire the President and they have every right to do so. Please know that as a fellow American my wish is that we find some common ground on which to stand United, going forward without anymore blood shed.
Well, I can only state the knowledge I have and my... (show quote)


So, if he did not lose the e******n, you're OK with a f********t e******n that violates the very essence of the Constitution? BTW - he has not been removed from office and he will not be. He will either prove his case and remain President for four more years or he will go back to his home in FL and live out his days. I am expecting the former.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:32:39   #
eden
 
JW wrote:
One thing I really am unimpressed by in this current crop of Liberal loons is their remarkable meanness, (meanness = low station in life, lack of quality or attractiveness; shabbiness of intellectual acuity).


You write well but your position is perplexing. What part of supporting this incompetent buffoon of a President is an example of intellectual acuity?

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Jan 16, 2021 01:39:07   #
eden
 
JW wrote:
No one enjoys negative attention, I less so than most. However, I have discovered that when an adversary reaches his or her intellectual limits, I have to expect it. The only real solution is to try to keep things on a level you are capable of grasping... or ignore you.

I've been in a bad mood today. Bad moods call for saying it like it is... sticking as much as possible to two syllable words.


Bad moods can also lead us back into infancy and oppositional defiance. You do seem there if just for a brief visit. Maybe on a better day you will find your rational self again.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:39:15   #
JW
 
eden wrote:
You write well but your position is perplexing. What part of supporting this incompetent buffoon of a President is an example of intellectual acuity?


Supporting him demonstrates an ability to absorb information, distinguish fact from fiction and reach a valid conclusion.

You certainly don't have an obligation to support him but you and those like you most assuredly do have an obligation to the t***h. Believe me, nothing I have seen your side post in four years indicates any such capacity.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:40:05   #
eden
 
Zenbeauty wrote:
Well, I can only state the knowledge I have and my opinions. Nothing more. I share your disappointment but for different reasons. You see, I’m a humanitarian. I care about people. I care about what happens to people. People I know and people I don’t know. I’m also a t***h seeker. And the t***h today is that regardless of e******n f***d, regardless if the President won the e******n or not, he was removed from office. The military leadership [good, honorable men, admirals and generals], lost faith in his ability to lead our nation. Many powerful Republican politicians also felt he needed to be limited to one term. Enlisted men and women may still admire the President and they have every right to do so. Please know that as a fellow American my wish is that we find some common ground on which to stand United, going forward without anymore blood shed.
Well, I can only state the knowledge I have and my... (show quote)


Well stated. Thank you.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:45:55   #
PeterS
 
GoCubs wrote:
Written by George Foulsham (editor for The Sacramento Bee):

Putting aside the impeachments and terrorist attack on the Capitol for a moment, when you think about the past four years, what’s the first thing that comes to your mind?

Is it the lies? An avalanche of more than 30,000 unt***hs, false and misleading claims. Is it when he used a sharpie to alter a weather map to cover his ass because his office mishandled hurricane preparedness? He’s not just a liar, he’s an ignorant liar — the most dangerous kind.

Is it how he empowered right-wing news media? Not just empowered them, he let them rule — until they (briefly) stopped licking his boots. Can you imagine Barack Obama calling Wolf Blitzer and asking him what he should do about the budget? Would you let Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity make important policy decisions for your country? He did.

Is it how he insulted heroes? Remember the Gold Star family? Or when he called John McCain a loser? Or how he refused to lower the f**g to half-staff after McCain died until the outcry forced his hand?

Is it when he gave the P**********l Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh, Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes? (Never cared for Bill Belichick, but god love him for declining the medal.) Was Roger Stone not available?

Is it how he divided us? How he let "only the best" people like Stephen Miller build a wall between us and every other country, especially neighbors Canada and Mexico? First it was the Muslim ban, then came Mexico. I will never forget standing in line behind a woman wearing a hijab at the Bomb Shelter, a collection of restaurants at UCLA, in 2017. It was when we were starting to get a sense of how this administration would handle immigration. “Are you OK?” I asked her. She turned around and stared at me as if she wasn’t quite sure why I had spoken to her. “With what’s going on right now,” I added. “Oh,” she said. “Well, it hasn’t been easy, but I’m going to get through it.” I just shook my head and said, “On behalf of many of us in this country, I’m sorry for what you’re experiencing.” She smiled and thanked me.

Is it how he still hasn’t condemned what w***e s*********ts did in Charlottesville? Is it because he’s the reason Charlottesville happened? Oh, he didn’t cause r****m. In many ways, we haven’t made any progress at all in the past 200 years. But there’s no denying that he’s the reason the KKK, the P***d B**s and the others crawled out of their r****t dens.

Is it when he pardoned Joe Arpaio?

Is it how he fired James Comey, and Sally Yates, and one Cabinet member after another, until he was left with nothing but sycophants — like Bill Barr, who lied about the Mueller Report, simply to please his boss?

Is it how he has refused to acknowledge racial injustice, even after G****e F***d was murdered by Minneapolis police?

Is it when he blamed immigration for the mass shooting in El Paso, my hometown?

Is it how he has bulldozed environmental rules and regulations, or when he came to California and laughed at scientists when told that c*****e c****e will only make things worse as our state was burning?

Is it how he treated the news media? Is it how he insulted CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Post and other legitimate news journalists who dared to disagree with him, or ask the tough questions? F**e news, my ass.

Is it the “phenomenal” health care plan he promised to deliver? Time’s running out on that one.

Or is it how he downplayed and politicized the White House response to the worst crisis of my lifetime, the c****av***s? More than 388,000 Americans are now dead. Not all of those deaths are attributable to Trump, but there’s no denying that he screwed up the government’s handling of this p******c, and that will be surely be a significant part of his legacy.

This presidency has taken a toll on everybody — some of us more than others. This man awakened something in me that I didn’t even know was there — red-hot rage at what has happened, disbelief that so many supported his agenda, and disappointment that some people I know still do. It’s also given me a new appreciation for the fragility of democracy, and a determination to make sure it survives. After what happened last week at The Capitol, that’s going to be a very difficult task.

Now — and I think I speak for most of my friends here on FB — get the hell out of our house, and out of our lives.
Written by George Foulsham (editor for The Sacrame... (show quote)

For me, I think it's the lies because the lies led to everything else. It was his lie about Democrats c***ting that led to the storming of the Capitol. It was his lies that empowered the r****ts, the w***e s*********ts, and the f*****ts who wanted to take over the country. Lies have power and in this case, it was the power to create an alternate T***h that conservatives what to believe in...the most dangerous lie of all.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:52:13   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
Pay attention to the declassified documents being released now. They show how just about every accusation Trump made was true and every charge made about him was a lie.


snip>>>He added that the outgoing Trump administration has recently been on “steroids” with regard to its global strategic policy, and a lot of it is “simply meant to complicate life for President-elect Joe Biden”.

If there is more than Trump is a vindictive ass why don't you post a link so we can read for ourselves...

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Jan 16, 2021 01:54:23   #
Zenbeauty Loc: Live Free or Die
 
JW wrote:
So, if he did not lose the e******n, you're OK with a f********t e******n that violates the very essence of the Constitution? BTW - he has not been removed from office and he will not be. He will either prove his case and remain President for four more years or he will go back to his home in FL and live out his days. I am expecting the former.


Am I ok with a f********t e******n?! Of course not! Am I ok with 6 dead after Americans stormed the Capital wanting to k**l politicians? Of course not! Am I ok with almost 400,000 Americans dead due to an out of control p******c? Absolutely not! I’m not ok with any of it. None of us are ok. But we cannot be at each other’s throats. We’ll never heal as a nation and we desperately need to heal. Please do me a favor? Please say a prayer for Trump, his military leadership, the politicians concerned about violence, the American people who are so divided and suffering in so many ways. Please take a moment to see that we will all be alright if we just stop hating.
I agree with the advice that you should find a more moderate Republican to support. There are many and hopefully it will be one who will help bridge the divide. Better yet, study libertarianism. It’s a kinder, gentler ideology. Your commitment deserves to be supported by a strong belief in individual freedoms. Wishing you peace, JW.

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Jan 16, 2021 01:54:39   #
eden
 
JW wrote:
Supporting him demonstrates an ability to absorb information, distinguish fact from fiction and reach a valid conclusion.

You certainly don't have an obligation to support him but you and those like you most assuredly do have an obligation to the t***h. Believe me, nothing I have seen your side post in four years indicates any such capacity.


I agree we all have an obligation to the t***h. I simply haven’t seen a scintilla of t***h come from this man’s mouth since well before he ran. And no it’s not a personal dislike, he just can’t seem to be honest about anything.

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