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Jan 14, 2021 00:13:17   #
SSDD
 
Singularity wrote:
I recall the protesters who r**ted and damaged property at Monuments and federal buildings were subjected to enhanced mandatory sentencing per Trumps executive order.

The Capital building is a National Monument.


Protesters didn't r**t or l**t, r****rs and l**ters, r**ted and l**ted. There is quite a distinctive difference between protesting and r**ting, there is also quite a distinct difference between protesting and l**ting. We can't humor the lunatics, it will not bring them to t***h, it will not bring them to reality, all it will do is satiate their desires. Their desires to believe that what the i**********nists did was no worse than what the protesters did, well, since the protesters did little more than exercise their rights, what the i**********nist did was far worse than what the protesters did. Did SOME protesters take things a bit far at times? Yes, there was some violence, but it was typically retaliatory in nature. What the i**********nists did was arguably even worse than what the r****rs and the l**ters did, at least they were only breaking the laws and causing damage, loss and mayhem, what the i**********nists did was treasonous, t*****rous, un-American and downright anti-American. They were threatening to try to o*******wn our own government and WITHOUT just cause. There is few if any crimes I consider worse than that.

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Jan 14, 2021 00:14:33   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
I recall the protesters who r**ted and damaged property at Monuments and federal buildings were subjected to enhanced mandatory sentencing per Trumps executive order.

The Capital building is a National Monument.


Huh. I thought it was "the People's house"... Lucky all the lefty r****rs had Kamala and kompany to bail them out and lawyer up for them

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Jan 14, 2021 00:15:11   #
SSDD
 
hdjimv wrote:
https://www.oann.com/eyewitness-details-first-hand-account-of-j***6-r**t/

The people who were causing the problems in the capital building weren't even listening to Trump's speech! They were already at the building before the speech even started. So how can you (lemmings) justify even connecting the two. The speech wasn't responsible for any i**********n, the "r**t" had already started before the speech was given.


Find a legitimate source making that claim.

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Jan 14, 2021 00:15:50   #
debeda
 
hdjimv wrote:
https://www.oann.com/eyewitness-details-first-hand-account-of-j***6-r**t/

The people who were causing the problems in the capital building weren't even listening to Trump's speech! They were already at the building before the speech even started. So how can you (lemmings) justify even connecting the two. The speech wasn't responsible for any i**********n, the "r**t" had already started before the speech was given.


Now STOP!! You're wrecking the narrative with facts and logic

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Jan 14, 2021 00:18:12   #
debeda
 
MeadowFields wrote:
Are you joking? All of those quotes were taken out of context and you know it!
Trump's quote was spoken after the i**********n took place that he incited. Trump took no responsibility for his inflammatory remarks that he made on twitter and other media to save his ass from being thrown into jail.
Anyone out there who still believes the e******n was s****n lives in a fantasy and should be deported to Fantasy Island.
Isn't it time to let go of the lies and division Trump has sown all during his administration and become a United States of America again. We should be thankful we live in a land of law and order that won't tolerate anarchy and militant i**********ns of our government. We must all play by the rules even though Trump never did. History will not treat him kindly!
Are you joking? All of those quotes were taken ou... (show quote)


And what about the other quotes? I heard them from the attributees, in total, in context. 100% accurate.

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Jan 14, 2021 00:19:14   #
debeda
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Make my reservation for fantasy island. I believe that the e******n was s****n from Trump by a coordinated international effort led by the CIA and corrupt state level e******n officials.
I believe that Trump is the best president in history (sorry Obama and Lincoln) and that America has reached a tipping point that won't be righted peacefully.
Lock and load, you kommiecrats are way out of line.


I sadly agree with you here, Mikey. Bad times in the USAšŸ˜„

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Jan 14, 2021 00:22:00   #
debeda
 
MeadowFields wrote:
I wonder if you'd be so gracious and forgiving if the i**********nists were people of color and not all white?


If they were all people of color they would not BE i**********nists. They'd be peaceful protesters. Ya know, like for the past 4 years, and particularly this past summer and fall.

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Jan 14, 2021 00:24:28   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
Have to say,, the l**ting and burning of a big box store on lake street in Mpls cannot compare to the forced take over of the nations capital.... is was and will be a result of provocation but without any justification..

The stores are far down the list of importance when we compare them to the nations capital.. done without provocation and the very center of our nation..

only pretend to be patriots and wanna be people of importance. doing what only criminals would ever do.. acting like the fictional lynch mobs of 50s western movies. With one loud mouth starting them up, then staying safe in his bunker like the coward he is known to be..

It is i think a mistake to have impeached the fool a 2nd time.. with the right wing nears insurgents going to alternate encrypted social media, we will have an even more intensive misinformed group willing to do ever more evil deeds to the country nearly all of us love..

Sad times may be waiting for us in the future.. hope the fine caring people make up the winning American side..
Have to say,, the l**ting and burning of a big box... (show quote)


Be logical, perm. If there was an I**********n involving 1 million plus "angry people", the government would be negotiating with the occupying force as we speak.....

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Jan 14, 2021 00:26:21   #
debeda
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Most importantly, these estimates are all being compared based on 2020 dollars. Meaning, previous r**ts, like the 1992 Rodney King R**ts in Los Angeles, cost $775 million in 1992 dollars. That adds up to $1.42 billion today, which is still lower than the $2 billion Black L***s M****r R**ts estimate ā€” which again only covers eight or nine days of r**ting that has never really stopped.

Hereā€™s a piece of perspective that shocked even meā€¦

If you add up the insurance cost in 2020 dollars for all six major American r**ts during the turbulent 1960s, the total is a little shy of $1.2 billion ā€” which means the terrorists in A****a and Black L***s M****r caused more mayhem and property damage in a little over a week than this country saw throughout all of the 1960s.

To the surprise of no one, Axios still uses the term ā€œmostly peacefulā€ to describe whatā€™s happening.

Thereā€™s also this helpful non sequitur: ā€œYes, but: These losses are small compared with those stemming from natural disasters like hurricanes and the wildfires that are consuming the U.S. West.ā€ [emphasis original]

So even in the face of all this murder, property damage, assaults, l**ting, and burning, the clown show at Axios proudly marches onward.

ā€œMostly peaceful.ā€

Man alive.
Most importantly, these estimates are all being co... (show quote)


Yep!! Again, the left is devoid of reason, logic, or civility.

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Jan 14, 2021 00:41:45   #
SSDD
 
American Vet wrote:
You are wrong on a couple of points.

Companies must comply with the law. In certain instances ā€˜freedom of speechā€™ may be involved.

I have commented very little on the e******n outcomes.

Do you think that his sister might have ā€˜an axe to grindā€™?


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Tell me where in that does it state the anybody BUT congress and by extension, the government, is obligated to "honor" anybody else's right to free speech much less an internet social media company operating on an internet that wasn't even around when the amendment was added and I seriously doubt any amendments to the first amendment have been established since the "invention" of the internet. You people can't just fabricate laws in your head and expect others to follow them, you can't make up your own interpretations of laws or constitutional rights and expect others to agree with your WAY OFF BASE, asinine interpretations that can't even stand up to scrutiny. IF you want private companies and private citizens to be bound to uphold the free speech rights of others, contact your representatives and senators and demand an amendment to the first amendment and if you are successful, which you won't be, you will have your way. Until then, forget it. There IS no law forcing ANY private citizen or ANY private company to honor someone's rights to free speech. If you don't like what someone is saying in your home, you DO have the right to have them ejected, if you own a business and you don't like what they are saying, same deal, if you have a social media site and you don't like what someone is saying, again, same deal.

What? You have something against what people can do in their own home? Their own business? Their own social media site? Don't those people/companies/entities have rights too? Except they DO have the rights granted them to do with their home/business/social media site(s) what they please. The first amendment only applies to the government and what they can or can not do in regards to your first amendment rights, it doesn't pertain to individuals or companies. What is so hard to understand about that?

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Jan 14, 2021 00:59:38   #
SSDD
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Singularity, there was no i**********n there was a r**t. But if you consider the DC r**t as an i**********n, then we had a whole lot of i**********ns last year. To me, an i**********n is a planned and organized, usually by segments of the military, or paramilitary groups,TAKEOVER of a government. Now, I agree with you. The r****rs were mostly drugged up and stupid. Do you seriously believe Nance from Nashville, the i***t dressed in horns or the guy sitting in Speakers Pelosi chair was going to o*******w the government? Disrupt, yes, takeover, no. And yes, Trumpā€™s actions were a major cause of the r**t. This time next week we will have President Biden. Get over Trump, be happy, and I will ā€œgrimaceā€ and bear it.
Larry Joe
Singularity, there was no i**********n there was a... (show quote)


Ah, and what were the zip ties for?



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-10/man-seen-in-senate-carrying-zip-ties-among-those-charged-in-r**t


Yeah, no harm was intended, just some hooligans out tryin' to have some fun. You DO NOT carry that style "zip ties", which are ACTUALLY zip-cuffs, unless you intend to detain someone and in this case, illegally since he had no authority to detain anyone.

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Jan 14, 2021 01:00:33   #
SSDD
 
MeadowFields wrote:
I wonder if you'd be so gracious and forgiving if the i**********nists were people of color and not all white?


He would likely be calling for their lynching instead if that were the case.

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Jan 14, 2021 01:12:18   #
SSDD
 
permafrost wrote:
Have to say,, the l**ting and burning of a big box store on lake street in Mpls cannot compare to the forced take over of the nations capital.... is was and will be a result of provocation but without any justification..

The stores are far down the list of importance when we compare them to the nations capital.. done without provocation and the very center of our nation..

only pretend to be patriots and wanna be people of importance. doing what only criminals would ever do.. acting like the fictional lynch mobs of 50s western movies. With one loud mouth starting them up, then staying safe in his bunker like the coward he is known to be..

It is i think a mistake to have impeached the fool a 2nd time.. with the right wing nears insurgents going to alternate encrypted social media, we will have an even more intensive misinformed group willing to do ever more evil deeds to the country nearly all of us love..

Sad times may be waiting for us in the future.. hope the fine caring people make up the winning American side..
Have to say,, the l**ting and burning of a big box... (show quote)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqGuaAl6Ic (For Whom the Bell Tolls)

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Jan 14, 2021 06:55:04   #
American Vet
 
SSDD wrote:
That meme lies, that was NOT part of his rally speech. It IS, in fact, in the video he made after he was harangued for hours to try to talk the i**********nists, his supporters, into stopping the violence and dispersing. Why did it take so long for him to undo the damage he, Don Jr. and Giuliani created?

If you want to hear his speech to see that he DID NOT end it with, "Go home with love and in peace":

https://youtu.be/Ru0LbdU1oOQ?t=3894 (Video is from WKYC Channel 3)

If you prefer to read it:

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

Sorry, I could not find an official transcript for that rally speech even though the rally was supposed to have been held at or at least near the WH...

Don't trust that site to do justice in t***scribing the speech? Read it while listening to the actual speech and see for yourself the accuracy of the transcription.


More info at https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/national/multiple-people-arrested-in-dc-ahead-of-wednesdays-planned-pro-trump-protests.


Note: The visible URL of that last URL is truncated to remove a potion that in no way describes the content. The news outlet, site navigation and the lesser headline were left in for the sake of honestly depicting the content and source.
That meme lies, that was NOT part of his rally spe... (show quote)


So how do you explain that the video/transcript you posted - which you say incited the mob to attack the Capital - started at 1444 hours and the r****rs breached the Capital at about 1400?

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Jan 14, 2021 07:02:19   #
Singularity
 
SSDD wrote:
Find a legitimate source making that claim.


Trumps speech was being livestreamed on Utube. Mas ny were listening, virtually in real time, on their phone.

https://youtu.be/YVDJqipoohc

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