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Jan 13, 2021 19:24:02   #
Singularity
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Singularity, there was no insurrection there was a riot. But if you consider the DC riot as an insurrection, then we had a whole lot of insurrections last year. To me, an insurrection is a planned and organized, usually by segments of the military, or paramilitary groups,TAKEOVER of a government. Now, I agree with you. The rioters were mostly drugged up and stupid. Do you seriously believe Nance from Nashville, the idiot dressed in horns or the guy sitting in Speakers Pelosi chair was going to overthrow the government? Disrupt, yes, takeover, no. And yes, Trump’s actions were a major cause of the riot. This time next week we will have President Biden. Get over Trump, be happy, and I will “grimace” and bear it.
Larry Joe
Singularity, there was no insurrection there was a... (show quote)


Indications are they thought Mr. Trump would meet armed forces there and they were to be part of the Revolution.

At the impeachment vote today, one of the Reps asked if any Capital buiilding "trespassers" would admit to the belief that this was a serious takeover.

They have! On multiple Utube videos they streamed of themselves, or interviews during and after the aftermath.

I think your acceptance is pragmatic and I understand your apprehension. I recall the month or so after Trump won, for me. So I won't stress you with continuing argumentation over details.

The room was fairly hostile before the vote!

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Jan 13, 2021 19:37:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What ever that means, trump has exposed the pure evil of the left since he started his campaign. He has brought out the true selves of the leftists and their soul is laid bare.

It is not Trump who invited, but what Trump has exposed.




Have to say,, the looting and burning of a big box store on lake street in Mpls cannot compare to the forced take over of the nations capital.... is was and will be a result of provocation but without any justification..

The stores are far down the list of importance when we compare them to the nations capital.. done without provocation and the very center of our nation..

only pretend to be patriots and wanna be people of importance. doing what only criminals would ever do.. acting like the fictional lynch mobs of 50s western movies. With one loud mouth starting them up, then staying safe in his bunker like the coward he is known to be..

It is i think a mistake to have impeached the fool a 2nd time.. with the right wing nears insurgents going to alternate encrypted social media, we will have an even more intensive misinformed group willing to do ever more evil deeds to the country nearly all of us love..

Sad times may be waiting for us in the future.. hope the fine caring people make up the winning American side..



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Jan 13, 2021 20:09:06   #
Larry Joe
 
MeadowFields wrote:
I wonder if you'd be so gracious and forgiving if the insurrectionists were people of color and not all white?


Sorry MeadowFields, I accept all people for the content of their character and don’t look at the color of their skin. Nor do I feel “gracious” or “forgiving” for any rioters. I would hope you would feel the same.
Larry Joe

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Jan 13, 2021 20:28:53   #
Larry Joe
 
[quote=Singularity]Indications are they thought Mr. Trump would meet armed forces there and they were to be part of the Revolution.

At the impeachment vote today, one of the Reps asked if any Capital buiilding "trespassers" would admit to the belief that this was a serious takeover.

They have! On multiple Utube videos they streamed of themselves, or interviews during and after the aftermath.

I think your acceptance is pragmatic and I understand your apprehension. I recall the month or so after Trump won, for me. So I won't stress you with continuing argumentation over details.

I think that is much more than a “detail”. I would like to know “who” was told they would be met by armed forces at the Capital to support them, and “who” told them that. That is new information to me. Certainly not Trump in his speech. Have a good evening Singularity, I do enjoy your posts.
Larry Joe

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Jan 13, 2021 21:17:01   #
Mikeyavelli
 
roy wrote:
Maybe heis sister and niece have an axe to grind but everything they have said about trump is coming true is it not,is it not ,?


The opposite is true.
Nothing they accuse Trump of is true. The left is hysterical, consumed with hatred for Trump and his love of America and his 80 million supporters.

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Jan 13, 2021 21:27:35   #
nwtk2007
 
Singularity wrote:
I recall the protesters who rioted and damaged property at Monuments and federal buildings were subjected to enhanced mandatory sentencing per Trumps executive order.

The Capital building is a National Monument.


You mean like, No Bail?? Give me an example of that which you speak.

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Jan 13, 2021 21:30:31   #
nwtk2007
 
permafrost wrote:
Have to say,, the looting and burning of a big box store on lake street in Mpls cannot compare to the forced take over of the nations capital.... is was and will be a result of provocation but without any justification..

The stores are far down the list of importance when we compare them to the nations capital.. done without provocation and the very center of our nation..

only pretend to be patriots and wanna be people of importance. doing what only criminals would ever do.. acting like the fictional lynch mobs of 50s western movies. With one loud mouth starting them up, then staying safe in his bunker like the coward he is known to be..

It is i think a mistake to have impeached the fool a 2nd time.. with the right wing nears insurgents going to alternate encrypted social media, we will have an even more intensive misinformed group willing to do ever more evil deeds to the country nearly all of us love..

Sad times may be waiting for us in the future.. hope the fine caring people make up the winning American side..
Have to say,, the looting and burning of a big box... (show quote)


Most importantly, these estimates are all being compared based on 2020 dollars. Meaning, previous riots, like the 1992 Rodney King Riots in Los Angeles, cost $775 million in 1992 dollars. That adds up to $1.42 billion today, which is still lower than the $2 billion Black Lives Matter Riots estimate — which again only covers eight or nine days of rioting that has never really stopped.

Here’s a piece of perspective that shocked even me…

If you add up the insurance cost in 2020 dollars for all six major American riots during the turbulent 1960s, the total is a little shy of $1.2 billion — which means the terrorists in Antifa and Black Lives Matter caused more mayhem and property damage in a little over a week than this country saw throughout all of the 1960s.

To the surprise of no one, Axios still uses the term “mostly peaceful” to describe what’s happening.

There’s also this helpful non sequitur: “Yes, but: These losses are small compared with those stemming from natural disasters like hurricanes and the wildfires that are consuming the U.S. West.” [emphasis original]

So even in the face of all this murder, property damage, assaults, looting, and burning, the clown show at Axios proudly marches onward.

“Mostly peaceful.”

Man alive.

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Jan 13, 2021 21:32:58   #
nwtk2007
 
permafrost wrote:
Have to say,, the looting and burning of a big box store on lake street in Mpls cannot compare to the forced take over of the nations capital.... is was and will be a result of provocation but without any justification..

The stores are far down the list of importance when we compare them to the nations capital.. done without provocation and the very center of our nation..

only pretend to be patriots and wanna be people of importance. doing what only criminals would ever do.. acting like the fictional lynch mobs of 50s western movies. With one loud mouth starting them up, then staying safe in his bunker like the coward he is known to be..

It is i think a mistake to have impeached the fool a 2nd time.. with the right wing nears insurgents going to alternate encrypted social media, we will have an even more intensive misinformed group willing to do ever more evil deeds to the country nearly all of us love..

Sad times may be waiting for us in the future.. hope the fine caring people make up the winning American side..
Have to say,, the looting and burning of a big box... (show quote)


https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/16/study-up-to-95-percent-of-2020-u-s-riots-are-linked-to-black-lives-matter/

Get real and your a$$ out of your head, as in "wake up."

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Jan 13, 2021 22:06:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/16/study-up-to-95-percent-of-2020-u-s-riots-are-linked-to-black-lives-matter/

Get real and your a$$ out of your head, as in "wake up."


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Jan 14, 2021 00:04:53   #
debeda
 
SSDD wrote:
That meme lies, that was NOT part of his rally speech. It IS, in fact, in the video he made after he was harangued for hours to try to talk the insurrectionists, his supporters, into stopping the violence and dispersing. Why did it take so long for him to undo the damage he, Don Jr. and Giuliani created?

If you want to hear his speech to see that he DID NOT end it with, "Go home with love and in peace":

https://youtu.be/Ru0LbdU1oOQ?t=3894 (Video is from WKYC Channel 3)

If you prefer to read it:

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

Sorry, I could not find an official transcript for that rally speech even though the rally was supposed to have been held at or at least near the WH...

Don't trust that site to do justice in transcribing the speech? Read it while listening to the actual speech and see for yourself the accuracy of the transcription.


More info at https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/national/multiple-people-arrested-in-dc-ahead-of-wednesdays-planned-pro-trump-protests.


Note: The visible URL of that last URL is truncated to remove a potion that in no way describes the content. The news outlet, site navigation and the lesser headline were left in for the sake of honestly depicting the content and source.
That meme lies, that was NOT part of his rally spe... (show quote)


No matter what you say. The other quotes are correct. We've all heard them direct from the donkey's mouths, so to speak. So why is ONLY ONE being censured - and censored???????

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Jan 14, 2021 00:06:42   #
debeda
 
Singularity wrote:
Only one was speaking directly to a large angry crowd dressed in body armour, riot gear and carrying pitchforks, sharpened lances adorned as flagpoles, and likely concealed weapons, a few more molotov cocktails. . .

Who were told that the President was MARCHING WITH THEM TO STOP THE STEAL .. .. .


?????????

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Jan 14, 2021 00:08:56   #
debeda
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
In other words, your hate means he's guilty of incitement, but your love of the democrats means they are not. Intellectual dishonesty run amuck. I'm finding the irrationality of you haters is making me tired and is a true danger to our republic, just like the biased media.



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Jan 14, 2021 00:09:39   #
debeda
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What ever that means, trump has exposed the pure evil of the left since he started his campaign. He has brought out the true selves of the leftists and their soul is laid bare.

It is not Trump who invited, but what Trump has exposed.


VERY TRUE!!!

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Jan 14, 2021 00:12:04   #
debeda
 
JFlorio wrote:
I guess one progressives insurrection is a peaceful protest and the others is an attack.


Yep. The left can burn, loot, attack again, and again, and again. For years. The right steps out of line ONCE and they're Insurrectionists, traitors, murderers, terrorists. The left is about as tone deaf and hypocritical as they come

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Jan 14, 2021 00:12:25   #
debeda
 
American Vet wrote:
Of course, a progressive 'peaceful protest' includes burning/looting/assault.



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