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Jan 12, 2021 15:14:21   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
eden wrote:
I would be interested to hear how Obama divided the nation. Can you quote some speech or rhetoric to substantiate that claim?
I think he ended up being a divisive figure to some but more by default than design. Your thoughts?


"We are five days away from fundamentally changing America." That was by design!

What do you think that means? You have a brain. Use it!

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Jan 12, 2021 15:35:38   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Bad Bob wrote:
By Henry R. Greenfield

Former Senior Consultant Global Digital Twin Technology at Www.ecodomus.com (2015–2020)

How can the population of the U.S. become reunited?

Let's be honest. Trump brought out the worst in all of us. No one was happy, not even those who were ‘winning’. Trump separated the 2 sides and drove a wedge right through the middle and opened up divisions that ANY SOCIETY HAS and the fact that he exposed them is not a bad thing.

The main thing is do you believe in the fundamental goodness of people as Biden does or do you see life as transactional where you don’t like either side but just use one and pit them against the other like Trump.

Many recent studies have shown and the pandemic has proven, we are not like “Lord of the Flies’ where we turn on each other once there are shortages. It is remarkable how millions of Americans have pitched in and reminds us that the US is exceptional and not in all the bad ways that Trump has brought out.

I fully expect a flowering of literature, of compromise, of working together of a mini-baby boom. People will want to turn their back on the Trump era which never forget had its lowest point with the pandemic.

If you believe in a higher being or even if you do not, it should be comforting to know that by far the largest number of Americans want to be in the middle every way.

We chose a uniter, an older white guy who is already showing us that while he is not perfect we are not perfect. He has chosen experience, he has walked the walk so far and I believe he will lead us with his team to a good 2021 when the pandemic will end and then 3 years of outstanding growth and progress across several fronts. This man will calmly lead America during this period and we will be happy that he is there. He will pray with us, he will not be spectacular but he will bring us together.

The era of Trump will fade and with it, will come a flowering of the USA that we have not seen in a long time.
By Henry R. Greenfield br br Former Senior Consul... (show quote)


Not going to happen by tyranny and cheating! Or you people!

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Jan 12, 2021 16:32:03   #
Parky60 Loc: Champaign, IL
 
Bad Bob wrote:
By Henry R. Greenfield

Former Senior Consultant Global Digital Twin Technology at Www.ecodomus.com (2015–2020)

How can the population of the U.S. become reunited?

Let's be honest. Trump brought out the worst in all of us. No one was happy, not even those who were ‘winning’. Trump separated the 2 sides and drove a wedge right through the middle and opened up divisions that ANY SOCIETY HAS and the fact that he exposed them is not a bad thing.

The main thing is do you believe in the fundamental goodness of people as Biden does or do you see life as transactional where you don’t like either side but just use one and pit them against the other like Trump.

Many recent studies have shown and the pandemic has proven, we are not like “Lord of the Flies’ where we turn on each other once there are shortages. It is remarkable how millions of Americans have pitched in and reminds us that the US is exceptional and not in all the bad ways that Trump has brought out.

I fully expect a flowering of literature, of compromise, of working together of a mini-baby boom. People will want to turn their back on the Trump era which never forget had its lowest point with the pandemic.

If you believe in a higher being or even if you do not, it should be comforting to know that by far the largest number of Americans want to be in the middle every way.

We chose a uniter, an older white guy who is already showing us that while he is not perfect we are not perfect. He has chosen experience, he has walked the walk so far and I believe he will lead us with his team to a good 2021 when the pandemic will end and then 3 years of outstanding growth and progress across several fronts. This man will calmly lead America during this period and we will be happy that he is there. He will pray with us, he will not be spectacular but he will bring us together.

The era of Trump will fade and with it, will come a flowering of the USA that we have not seen in a long time.
By Henry R. Greenfield br br Former Senior Consul... (show quote)

That's some gooood shit that you're smokin' Boob.

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Jan 12, 2021 16:48:23   #
Parky60 Loc: Champaign, IL
 
eden wrote:
I would be interested to hear how Obama divided the nation. Can you quote some speech or rhetoric to substantiate that claim?
I think he ended up being a divisive figure to some but more by default than design. Your thoughts?

Just a few…

Former President Obama created a massive political divide between the left and the right we see today. His attacks against the right-wingers created an emboldened electorate, and now the fruits of his rhetoric are seen. President Trump is a result of Obama’s political discourse disguised as executive leadership. However, the legacy media and left-wingers tell a different story.

Trump’s critics see through blue colored lenses. Trump does what is good for the country, and Obama did what was beneficial for Democratic leftism.

We began to split as a nation during Obama’s first term, and it is hard to see how the division was not Obama’s goal. He was a community organizer in the 1980s. Obama used organizing for political separation that came from it. This mentality carried over into his presidency in which he used his platform as president to encourage the militant political tactic.

Obama commonly used race as a tool. If anyone disagreed with his policies, he or she was immediately labeled as a racist, shutting down any logical arguments. The left uses identity politics to win because left-wing policies are garbage. If a group of people is called racist enough times, the natural response is to get angry and pull away from common ground, or chance for compromise.

The left likes to say that Trump’s words are a “dog whistle” for racial motivations. They have no proof. However, Obama did not shy away from such things. In 2010, during a radio interview for Univision, Obama told Latinos they need to “punish” their “enemies.” A crack began to form between white and Hispanic communities and ironically black and Latinos as well.

America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Obama often called himself a Christian, but attacked Christians more than any other religion. In 2015, he used an Easter prayer to criticize Christians – days before radical Islamists slaughtered 147 Christian students in Kenya.

Security is essential to all citizens. No matter if a murderer yelled “Allahu Akbar” before attacking his fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas, shooting co-workers at a Christmas party in California, or killing dozens at a gay nightclub in Florida, Obama always seemed dumbfounded at the reason. A president cannot consistently ignore situations like this and expect no animosity towards radical Islam in general.

Obama was not a stranger to making snide comments towards those who believe in the Constitution. In 2008, he was on the campaign trail and said that citizens in flyover country are racists and they cling to their guns and religion, just because they disagreed with his economic policies. His comment was not forgotten.

In 2016, protests that turned into riots were frequent, but Obama did not condemn the violence and property destruction. Instead, he praised the protests, but when the group became unruly, he was silent.

These are just a few examples of Obama dividing the country. Obama did not want to unite the country. He was trying to fundamentally change America as promised. But first, it must be broken down before a changing it. In one way he did change us, and the result is what we see now in over 600 citizen-on-citizen politically motivated assaults.

Change cannot occur without division. Obama tried to divide us, and artificially put the country back together but failed. Instead, Trump was left with a mess - not just economically, but socially and culturally as well.

Now, the left and mainstream media project these problems on Trump when their savior Obama is at fault.

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Jan 12, 2021 17:07:43   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Parky60 wrote:
Just a few…

Former President Obama created a massive political divide between the left and the right we see today. His attacks against the right-wingers created an emboldened electorate, and now the fruits of his rhetoric are seen. President Trump is a result of Obama’s political discourse disguised as executive leadership. However, the legacy media and left-wingers tell a different story.

Trump’s critics see through blue colored lenses. Trump does what is good for the country, and Obama did what was beneficial for Democratic leftism.

We began to split as a nation during Obama’s first term, and it is hard to see how the division was not Obama’s goal. He was a community organizer in the 1980s. Obama used organizing for political separation that came from it. This mentality carried over into his presidency in which he used his platform as president to encourage the militant political tactic.

Obama commonly used race as a tool. If anyone disagreed with his policies, he or she was immediately labeled as a racist, shutting down any logical arguments. The left uses identity politics to win because left-wing policies are garbage. If a group of people is called racist enough times, the natural response is to get angry and pull away from common ground, or chance for compromise.

The left likes to say that Trump’s words are a “dog whistle” for racial motivations. They have no proof. However, Obama did not shy away from such things. In 2010, during a radio interview for Univision, Obama told Latinos they need to “punish” their “enemies.” A crack began to form between white and Hispanic communities and ironically black and Latinos as well.

America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Obama often called himself a Christian, but attacked Christians more than any other religion. In 2015, he used an Easter prayer to criticize Christians – days before radical Islamists slaughtered 147 Christian students in Kenya.

Security is essential to all citizens. No matter if a murderer yelled “Allahu Akbar” before attacking his fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas, shooting co-workers at a Christmas party in California, or killing dozens at a gay nightclub in Florida, Obama always seemed dumbfounded at the reason. A president cannot consistently ignore situations like this and expect no animosity towards radical Islam in general.

Obama was not a stranger to making snide comments towards those who believe in the Constitution. In 2008, he was on the campaign trail and said that citizens in flyover country are racists and they cling to their guns and religion, just because they disagreed with his economic policies. His comment was not forgotten.

In 2016, protests that turned into riots were frequent, but Obama did not condemn the violence and property destruction. Instead, he praised the protests, but when the group became unruly, he was silent.

These are just a few examples of Obama dividing the country. Obama did not want to unite the country. He was trying to fundamentally change America as promised. But first, it must be broken down before a changing it. In one way he did change us, and the result is what we see now in over 600 citizen-on-citizen politically motivated assaults.

Change cannot occur without division. Obama tried to divide us, and artificially put the country back together but failed. Instead, Trump was left with a mess - not just economically, but socially and culturally as well.

Now, the left and mainstream media project these problems on Trump when their savior Obama is at fault.
Just a few… br br Former President Obama created ... (show quote)



This is the M.O of the left; make a ridiculous comment that needs to be refuted. But refuting takes orders of magnitude longer and more energy to do so. In the meantime, the loony left has put their lie out there, and they just keep repeating it until the uninformed believe it. They claim everything Trump says is a lie. People believe this because when taken out of context, anything can be made to sound ridiculous, and it takes much more energy to set the record straight. But, by that time, most people have moved on and are no longer interested in investing the time needed to learn the truth. They continue to be blissful in their ignorance and close-off their mind to hearing dissenting facts.

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Jan 12, 2021 17:12:39   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
dtucker300 wrote:

This is the M.O of the left; make a ridiculous comment that needs to be refuted. But refuting takes orders of magnitude longer and more energy to do so. In the meantime, the loony left has put their lie out there, and they just keep repeating it until the uninformed believe it. They claim everything Trump says is a lie. People believe this because when taken out of context, anything can be made to sound ridiculous, and it takes much more energy to set the record straight. But, by that time, most people have moved on and are no longer interested in investing the time needed to learn the truth. They continue to be blissful in their ignorance and close-off their mind to hearing dissenting facts.
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Leah Barkoukis from Townhall reports, After Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol Building in response to the certification of the Electoral College vote, people on Twitter began taking a second look at Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s December tweet explaining why people protest.

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Jan 12, 2021 17:15:22   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The following story is brought to you courtesy of The Next News Network
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Leah Barkoukis from Townhall reports, After Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol Building in response to the certification of the Electoral College vote, people on Twitter began taking a second look at Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s December tweet explaining why people protest.


Nancy Pelosi says ‘whiteness’ to blame for US Capitol riots: ‘That’s what this is about’

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https://projectpatriot.com/nancy-pelosi-says-whiteness-to-blame-for-us-capitol-riots-thats-what-this-is-about/



House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) claimed over the weekend that rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol last week were driven to engage in the deadly violence by their “whiteness.”

What did Pelosi say?
During an online video conference with her San Francisco constituents, Pelosi invoked the coronavirus pandemic and the Christian feast of “Epiphany” to make a point about the role of race in the attack on the Capitol.

“When that assault was taking place on the Capitol, 3,865 people in our country died of the coronavirus, many of them people of color because of the injustice of it all,” Pelosi began, The Hill reported.

“The next day, on Thursday, 4,000 people died of the coronavirus. Why? Because decisions were made at the highest level, months before in the Oval Office, of denial, distortion, delay, calling it a ‘hoax,'” she continued.

That’s when Pelosi shifted to invoking “Epiphany.”

“I thought it was going to be an epiphany for those who were in opposition of our democracy to see the light,” Pelosi said. “Instead, it was an epiphany for the world to see that there are people in our country, led by this President, for the moment, who have chosen their whiteness over democracy. That’s what this is about.”

What role has race played?
In the aftermath of the deadly violence at the Capitol, partisan reaction has claimed there was a double standard of perspective toward the riots.

Left-leaning activists have claimed law enforcement is much tougher when crowds of Black Lives Matter demonstrators gather, while right-leaning activists say the response to the march on the Capitol has been much tougher than any response to Black Lives Matter riots.

Even President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris have engaged in such rhetoric.

“You can’t tell me that if it had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesters yesterday they wouldn’t have been treated very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol,” Biden said last week. “We all know that is true. And it is totally unacceptable. Totally unacceptable. The American people saw it in plain view.”

Meanwhile, Harris claimed the response to the rioters exemplified that there are “two systems of justice” in America.

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Jan 12, 2021 17:24:07   #
Rose42
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Nancy Pelosi says ‘whiteness’ to blame for US Capitol riots: ‘That’s what this is about’

The following story is brought to you courtesy of The Blaze.
https://projectpatriot.com/nancy-pelosi-says-whiteness-to-blame-for-us-capitol-riots-thats-what-this-is-about/



House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) claimed over the weekend that rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol last week were driven to engage in the deadly violence by their “whiteness.”

What did Pelosi say?
During an online video conference with her San Francisco constituents, Pelosi invoked the coronavirus pandemic and the Christian feast of “Epiphany” to make a point about the role of race in the attack on the Capitol.

“When that assault was taking place on the Capitol, 3,865 people in our country died of the coronavirus, many of them people of color because of the injustice of it all,” Pelosi began, The Hill reported.

“The next day, on Thursday, 4,000 people died of the coronavirus. Why? Because decisions were made at the highest level, months before in the Oval Office, of denial, distortion, delay, calling it a ‘hoax,'” she continued.

That’s when Pelosi shifted to invoking “Epiphany.”

“I thought it was going to be an epiphany for those who were in opposition of our democracy to see the light,” Pelosi said. “Instead, it was an epiphany for the world to see that there are people in our country, led by this President, for the moment, who have chosen their whiteness over democracy. That’s what this is about.”

What role has race played?
In the aftermath of the deadly violence at the Capitol, partisan reaction has claimed there was a double standard of perspective toward the riots.

Left-leaning activists have claimed law enforcement is much tougher when crowds of Black Lives Matter demonstrators gather, while right-leaning activists say the response to the march on the Capitol has been much tougher than any response to Black Lives Matter riots.

Even President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris have engaged in such rhetoric.

“You can’t tell me that if it had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesters yesterday they wouldn’t have been treated very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol,” Biden said last week. “We all know that is true. And it is totally unacceptable. Totally unacceptable. The American people saw it in plain view.”

Meanwhile, Harris claimed the response to the rioters exemplified that there are “two systems of justice” in America.
Nancy Pelosi says ‘whiteness’ to blame for US Capi... (show quote)


Whiteness over democracy...what an incredibly stupid thing to say. And the sad thing is, there are a lot of gullible folks who buy into it.

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Jan 12, 2021 17:28:55   #
The Ms.
 
FallenOak wrote:
Bad Bob I realize you have sent us another persons writings but I do have some feelings about them. I don’t think I have seen the amount of hatred that Pelosi and her friends have shown coming from Trump. I didn’t vote for Trump because I don’t vote for Rep or Dem but also because after watching a short time one of his TV shows I thought he was a rather pompous nut. As far as driving a wedge I think if you believe he did that then you should also believe that Pelosi and her cabal opened it very wide. She lost any little faith I had in Congress when she railroaded the Health Clare thing through. If something is good then it doesn’t need to be passed so rapidly but should be read and discussed. If you believe Trump created problems then watch out for Pelosi because if she is able to get both house of congress to impeach and convict Trump in the next ten days the country will truly go to war as half will be certain that they have been abused big time.
If we look at Congress as a den of rattlesnakes I will make my belief known. Most of Congress is a regular rattlesnake with a venom of hemotoxic elements. There are some though like the Mojave Green Rattlesnake whose poison is hemotoxic and neurotoxic. The Mojave Green has one of the worlds most toxic venoms. I leave it to you to choose which people in congress I believe are Mojave Greens.
In order to get the US to blossom you need to get rid of more than just Trump.
Bad Bob I realize you have sent us another persons... (show quote)


Well said... some thoughts... we got Trump because there was no one in Congress with balls to do what Trump did.... he is a risk taker who knows how to beat them at their Swamp Games.... both parties! This is why they hate him.... only Republicans that backed Trump were the younger members.... Graham and McConnell are no better than Crazy Nancy. Politicians will never fix problems. They are the problem.... “We The People” are the only hope of fixing this... so why are people wasting time taking cheap shots at the left who are truly incapable of discerning Truth from Lies?

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Jan 12, 2021 17:41:39   #
The Ms.
 
Not sure who you think is lying or what you want.... but you will see a full blown attempt to make America a Socialist Country.... with the ruling class of Tech , Big business, Media and Elites running the show from their protected Ivory Towers. Hope you are not a hard working American because if you are .....you are going to get Screwed!.... just a thought....

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Jan 12, 2021 18:08:18   #
eden
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
What did Trump do that hurt you?
He only helped me.
He lowered my taxes and health care costs.
He did not send any of my grandkids to war.
He's cut back illegal immigration and hurt the big drug cartels.
My 401k is doing well.
Covid-19 didn't get the best of us, even though leftist governors are trying their best to thwart small business.
I can't wait for a career liar political has been to take over.
You people are nuts




I’m glad he helped you. My experience was different:

He lowered my taxes but with my income I did not need it. I would have preferred if he had provided a better rate for my employees.

I live in a state that has Employer Mandated Health Care and under Trump those costs went up about 40% over 4 years.

None of my grandkids went to war under Obama either.

Illegal immigration surged under Trump although much of that was due to people seeking asylum. His border fence is incomplete and easily breached.

The drug cartels remain and are flourishing.

My retirement accounts did well but they were doing well before Trump. They took a dive last year when the mismanaged Covid crisis hit.
The Covid crisis has rolled over the country’s healthcare system and over a quarter of a million people are dead.

My Governor in Hawaii (a decidedly Liberal State) has gone out of his way to direct assistance to small businesses in the form of rent relief and other programs.

I look forward to the grownups taking charge and ushering in a period of stable democracy and economic growth coupled with a restoration of sensible environmental
regulations.

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Jan 12, 2021 18:23:19   #
The Ms.
 
Really, your retirement accounts went down because of Trump’s mismanagement of COVID..... wonder what is wrong with me..... I made lots of money and so did many others.... I think you need to look in a mirror to yourself or financial planner for the dive. I hope , whoever ,keeps these posts forever....when you see what your alleged grownups do..remember your comments .. better pay attention to those retirement accounts.... do not say you were not warned.... good luck!

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Jan 12, 2021 18:53:18   #
working dog
 
[quote=Bad Bob]By Henry R. Greenfield

Former Senior Consultant Global Digital Twin Technology at Www.ecodomus.com (2015–2020)

How can the population of the U.S. become reunited?

Let's be honest. Trump brought out the worst in all of us. No one was happy, not even those who were ‘winning’. Trump separated the 2 sides and drove a wedge right through the middle and opened up divisions that ANY SOCIETY HAS and the fact that he exposed them is not a bad thing.

The main thing is do you believe in the fundamental goodness of people as Biden does or do you see life as transactional where you don’t like either side but just use one and pit them against the other like Trump.

Many recent studies have shown and the pandemic has proven, we are not like “Lord of the Flies’ where we turn on each other once there are shortages. It is remarkable how millions of Americans have pitched in and reminds us that the US is exceptional and not in all the bad ways that Trump has brought out.

I fully expect a flowering of literature, of compromise, of working together of a mini-baby boom. People will want to turn their back on the Trump era which never forget had its lowest point with the pandemic.

If you believe in a higher being or even if you do not, it should be comforting to know that by far the largest number of Americans want to be in the middle every way.

We chose a uniter, an older white guy who is already showing us that while he is not perfect we are not perfect. He has chosen experience, he has walked the walk so far and I believe he will lead us with his team to a good 2021 when the pandemic will end and then 3 years of outstanding growth and progress across several fronts. This man will calmly lead America during this period and we will be happy that he is there. He will pray with us, he will not be spectacular but he will bring us together.

The era of Trump will fade and with it, will come a flowering of the USA that we have not seen in a long time. Apparently you have been listening to the drive by media.Biden and commie is dividing us more with racial tension or racial i shood say . find the truth not cnn or msnbc .

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Jan 12, 2021 18:58:20   #
working dog
 
They are lying to you .Obama started this .Its called the fundimental transformation of america .The money grubbing so called elitest have sold us out to the commies .They have commie money in there pocket .And they dont give a ........ about you .

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Jan 12, 2021 19:06:17   #
working dog
 
Thats the way its is .Im ;;;';;; glad i wont see the end .But my children will .Check out any communist country see the freedom of the people stripped away.
First the freedom of speech .Then the second the right to bear arms ,its easier to steal the rest of them if you cant fight back.

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