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Jan 15, 2021 12:45:01   #
ChJoe
 
eden wrote:
Oh it’s “worldwide” now?


Indeed it is! The Chinese will benefit greatly from the ouster of Trump and the relaxation of tariff against their conniving actions. They gave us the China v***s. Just how coincidental was that? The democrats had failed at every avenue of effort to oust Trump. Like Jane Fonda said, the C***d v***s was a true gift from god.

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Jan 15, 2021 16:26:23   #
Big Kahuna
 
ChJoe wrote:
Indeed it is! The Chinese will benefit greatly from the ouster of Trump and the relaxation of tariff against their conniving actions. They gave us the China v***s. Just how coincidental was that? The democrats had failed at every avenue of effort to oust Trump. Like Jane Fonda said, the C***d v***s was a true gift from god.


The C***d v***s would be a gift from God if it took Hanoi Jane out!!

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Jan 15, 2021 16:54:40   #
ChJoe
 
drlarrygino wrote:
The C***d v***s would be a gift from God if it took Hanoi Jane out!!


Sadly true!

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Jan 17, 2021 16:49:53   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
eden wrote:
Your grievances are as false as the Puppetmaster who sold them too you. Address that for a place to start.


You lack wisdom, you claim my grievances are "as false as the Puppetmaster who sold them too you". Not to mention your lack of grammar and spelling, this comment is not based in fact but rather emotion. And an action of emotion is not a wise action, therefore the author of this comment is not wise. Did you interview anyone, or research anything that I have presented or do you rather cackle like a hyena at the moon?

When intelligent people debate, they understand that every opinion is valuable, even the opinion of those who seem to hold a view that is not based in fact. The question then follows, "Why does that person feel that way?" This is the question that use to spark curiosity in journalists. However it seems that in today's society we want to silence that curiosity. In doing so, a rational decision cannot come to be for lack of research or lack of curiosity. Either way the facts are not placed on the table and the puzzle seems even more confusing.

I asked a basic question to the enemies, and doubters of Donald Trump, and that question is this: Why do you love Him so much, that you h**e him? No one could answer this question.

If there was no love for Donald Trump, by his enemies then there would be no vendetta against him. Even our allies and enemies overseas can see that the American people love Donald Trump. The Democrats love him so much that they go out of their way to destroy him. This is h**e right? But to be so vindictive against a person, you have to first love them to h**e them so much.

In the past five years, I have watched as they made Donald Trump what he is not. He is not Hitler nor is he a Saint. He is just a man who the country loved. He was loved so much that they h**ed him. Prove me wrong.

Now the Democrats are on a vindictive path that will lead to their demise. This vindictive path is what causes division. This is the same vindictive path, that Christ preached against.

As evidence of my points look at these circumstances and you judge for yourself:

1. "evidence" of Russian collusion was a false statement made by Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, various Representatives and Senators in Congress as well as intelligence agents, and FBI agents. According to this precedent set, the Democrats lied about the Russian Collusion and denied the e******n of 2016. But it continues.....

2. "evidence" of impeachment, the phone call to Ukraine. Donald Trump just came out of the Russian Collusion case where an out going p**********l administration had spied on his campaign and apparently the spying continued into his administration to the extent the president was being impeached for convincing a leader of Ukraine to investigate an American Citizen's actions in Ukraine. Now if it was Harry or Sam, it wouldn't have been an issue but since it was Joe Biden, oh my God, Donald Trump committed treason. Well that turned out to be false too. But the vindictiveness continued on.

3. The RNC held an event at the south lawn of the White House. Many High ranking Elected officials from Congress were present. As well as donors and the media. All of a sudden a crowd of people outside the white house gates started to form. These people violently attacked the Republican Party on the grounds.

4. Maxine Waters shouted at the crowd with a Bull Horn: "“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere." Shortly after that comment from Maxine Waters June 25th 2018, Sarah Sanders and family were attacked at a Virginia restaurant.

5. From 2015-2021, Trump supporters have been attacked on various occasions, up to and including a 16 year old boy, who was falsely accused of r****m by various main stream media outlets. On the subject of Trump supporters even Parlor was shut down for "supporting free speech of conservative/liberal voices"

6. Donald Trump is being blamed for the r**t, i**********n, that occurred on J** 6th, at the capitol. But there is one problem with this accusation. For the past five years, Trump supporters held peaceful protests and went to rally after rally with no problems. What evidence is there, that the protesters at the Capital were true Trump supporters. And if the argument ends up, "Well they were flying Trump f**gs", if I get a Biden F**g and storm the Capitol, would I be considered a Biden supporter?

Now with these six points, there are many many more stories, of how the democrats have attacked Donald Trump, by attacking the American people. This brings us to the Fool vs the Wise.

A fool will make snap judgements, mainly based in fear.
A wise man will make sound judgements, mainly based in fact and reason.

A fool is deaf to reason, whereas a wise man carefully studies the reason he is presented.

A fool condemns a person without evidence,
A wise man, sets the person free because he has foolish evidence.

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Jan 18, 2021 06:18:03   #
eden
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
You lack wisdom, you claim my grievances are "as false as the Puppetmaster who sold them too you". Not to mention your lack of grammar and spelling, this comment is not based in fact but rather emotion. And an action of emotion is not a wise action, therefore the author of this comment is not wise. Did you interview anyone, or research anything that I have presented or do you rather cackle like a hyena at the moon?

When intelligent people debate, they understand that every opinion is valuable, even the opinion of those who seem to hold a view that is not based in fact. The question then follows, "Why does that person feel that way?" This is the question that use to spark curiosity in journalists. However it seems that in today's society we want to silence that curiosity. In doing so, a rational decision cannot come to be for lack of research or lack of curiosity. Either way the facts are not placed on the table and the puzzle seems even more confusing.

I asked a basic question to the enemies, and doubters of Donald Trump, and that question is this: Why do you love Him so much, that you h**e him? No one could answer this question.

If there was no love for Donald Trump, by his enemies then there would be no vendetta against him. Even our allies and enemies overseas can see that the American people love Donald Trump. The Democrats love him so much that they go out of their way to destroy him. This is h**e right? But to be so vindictive against a person, you have to first love them to h**e them so much.

In the past five years, I have watched as they made Donald Trump what he is not. He is not Hitler nor is he a Saint. He is just a man who the country loved. He was loved so much that they h**ed him. Prove me wrong.

Now the Democrats are on a vindictive path that will lead to their demise. This vindictive path is what causes division. This is the same vindictive path, that Christ preached against.

As evidence of my points look at these circumstances and you judge for yourself:

1. "evidence" of Russian collusion was a false statement made by Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, various Representatives and Senators in Congress as well as intelligence agents, and FBI agents. According to this precedent set, the Democrats lied about the Russian Collusion and denied the e******n of 2016. But it continues.....

2. "evidence" of impeachment, the phone call to Ukraine. Donald Trump just came out of the Russian Collusion case where an out going p**********l administration had spied on his campaign and apparently the spying continued into his administration to the extent the president was being impeached for convincing a leader of Ukraine to investigate an American Citizen's actions in Ukraine. Now if it was Harry or Sam, it wouldn't have been an issue but since it was Joe Biden, oh my God, Donald Trump committed treason. Well that turned out to be false too. But the vindictiveness continued on.

3. The RNC held an event at the south lawn of the White House. Many High ranking Elected officials from Congress were present. As well as donors and the media. All of a sudden a crowd of people outside the white house gates started to form. These people violently attacked the Republican Party on the grounds.

4. Maxine Waters shouted at the crowd with a Bull Horn: "“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere." Shortly after that comment from Maxine Waters June 25th 2018, Sarah Sanders and family were attacked at a Virginia restaurant.

5. From 2015-2021, Trump supporters have been attacked on various occasions, up to and including a 16 year old boy, who was falsely accused of r****m by various main stream media outlets. On the subject of Trump supporters even Parlor was shut down for "supporting free speech of conservative/liberal voices"

6. Donald Trump is being blamed for the r**t, i**********n, that occurred on J** 6th, at the capitol. But there is one problem with this accusation. For the past five years, Trump supporters held peaceful protests and went to rally after rally with no problems. What evidence is there, that the protesters at the Capital were true Trump supporters. And if the argument ends up, "Well they were flying Trump f**gs", if I get a Biden F**g and storm the Capitol, would I be considered a Biden supporter?

Now with these six points, there are many many more stories, of how the democrats have attacked Donald Trump, by attacking the American people. This brings us to the Fool vs the Wise.

A fool will make snap judgements, mainly based in fear.
A wise man will make sound judgements, mainly based in fact and reason.

A fool is deaf to reason, whereas a wise man carefully studies the reason he is presented.

A fool condemns a person without evidence,
A wise man, sets the person free because he has foolish evidence.
You lack wisdom, you claim my grievances are "... (show quote)


Your grievances are as false as the deranged puppet master who sold them to you. You failed to address that in this long winded blustering nonsensical missive.

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Jan 18, 2021 06:34:10   #
eden
 
ChJoe wrote:
Indeed it is! The Chinese will benefit greatly from the ouster of Trump and the relaxation of tariff against their conniving actions. They gave us the China v***s. Just how coincidental was that? The democrats had failed at every avenue of effort to oust Trump. Like Jane Fonda said, the C***d v***s was a true gift from god.


Trump had the right idea in trying to contain Chinese C*******t expansionism but his bull in a China shop approach failed and the US taxpayer footed the bill for compensating US farmers for price drops due to Chinese retaliation. I have visited China several times and their mindset is completely different to US ways of strategic thinking. They view us as weak and unable to sustain a protracted period of economic hardship in order to win an economic advantage.
Future administrations will have to take a more nuanced and better thought out strategy that includes coalescing with regional partners and traditional allies in the region and further abroad. Trump reduced trust in the US image abroad with his incompetence, ham fisted bullying and ignorance of global politics.

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Jan 18, 2021 06:43:43   #
American Vet
 
eden wrote:
Your grievances are as false as the deranged puppet master who sold them to you. You failed to address that in this long winded blustering nonsensical missive.


What is false? Did the events he delineated not occur?

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Jan 18, 2021 06:46:25   #
eden
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Here's the deal: 1. Demorats are immoral, evil, deceitful, c***ters, bribe takers and baby murderers. They love big government and think it has all the answers. Because everyone knows that the party is so immoral and corrupt, no one holds them to a higher moral standard and they can break every law, our Constitution, and God's laws and get away with it. 2. The Repubs aren't quite as immoral, deceitful, vengeful and are against murdering babies, and want bug government off their backs so they are held to a higher standard. If a Repub breaks one of the 10 Commandments they are kicked out of office, impeached, imprisoned, fined, and lose their careers and spend years in prison. Repubs have to walk a fine line while demorats never found a line they had to walk. That is the 2 party dilemma and the press, who is also immoral and holds to low standards, supports the dem party.
Here's the deal: 1. Demorats are immoral, evil, de... (show quote)



Wow. Those mean baby eating Democrat’s are so powerful and such winners! And us poor Republicans are just always the victims of their mean evil ways....(Wahhh.)
My actual Republican friends reject this grievance marinated victimhood narrative but you and your crying friends have four years to seek professional help and come back to the polls with a new centrist candidate to do justice to the idea of a viable two-party system.

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Jan 18, 2021 06:52:13   #
eden
 
American Vet wrote:
What is false? Did the events he delineated not occur?


A grievance based on perceived loss of unearned white privilege and ignorance of history is, in my view, a false premise.

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Jan 18, 2021 07:02:57   #
American Vet
 
eden wrote:
A grievance based on perceived loss of unearned white privilege and ignorance of history is, in my view, a false premise.


First - there is no such thing as 'white privilege'.

Second - The events he delineated - are you saying they did not happen?

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Jan 18, 2021 07:44:45   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
eden wrote:
Trump had the right idea in trying to contain Chinese C*******t expansionism but his bull in a China shop approach failed and the US taxpayer footed the bill for compensating US farmers for price drops due to Chinese retaliation. I have visited China several times and their mindset is completely different to US ways of strategic thinking. They view us as weak and unable to sustain a protracted period of economic hardship in order to win an economic advantage.
Future administrations will have to take a more nuanced and better thought out strategy that includes coalescing with regional partners and traditional allies in the region and further abroad. Trump reduced trust in the US image abroad with his incompetence, ham-fisted bullying, and ignorance of global politics.
Trump had the right idea in trying to contain Chin... (show quote)


Hundreds march in support of Donald Trump in Japan after r**ts
They chanted anti-Chinese C*******t Party and anti-media slogans in both Japanese and English.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/07/us-capitol-hundreds-march-in-japan-in-support-of-donald-trump-13864463/
Donald Trump is so popular that in Vietnam, they even named a bar after him
Taiwan: 'A big brother we can rely on'
"Donald Trump's attitude is good for us and it's good to have such an ally. It gives us more confidence in terms of foreign affairs - militarily and trade," Victor Lin, who works in e-commerce, told the BBC from Taiwan. "We have a big brother we can rely on."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54097609
'Trump Is Better’: In Asia, Pro-democracy forces worry about Joe Biden
“Biden is president, and it’s like having Xi Jinping sitting in the White House,” said Elmer Yuen, a Hong Kong entrepreneur who has posted YouTube videos criticizing the Chinese C*******t Party, or CCP. “He wants to coexist with China, and whoever coexists with the CCP loses.”
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/trump-is-better-in-asia-pro-democracy-forces-worry-about-joe-biden/articleshow/79504067.cms?from=mdr

Ranger7374: A wise man sets the person free because he has foolish evidence.
Change to: A wise man sets the person free because he or she has foolish evidence.

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Jan 18, 2021 11:48:42   #
ChJoe
 
eden wrote:
Trump had the right idea in trying to contain Chinese C*******t expansionism but his bull in a China shop approach failed and the US taxpayer footed the bill for compensating US farmers for price drops due to Chinese retaliation. I have visited China several times and their mindset is completely different to US ways of strategic thinking. They view us as weak and unable to sustain a protracted period of economic hardship in order to win an economic advantage.
Future administrations will have to take a more nuanced and better thought out strategy that includes coalescing with regional partners and traditional allies in the region and further abroad. Trump reduced trust in the US image abroad with his incompetence, ham fisted bullying and ignorance of global politics.
Trump had the right idea in trying to contain Chin... (show quote)


Chinese resistance to capitulating to Trump economic "rules" for them was tied to the e******n. They openly claimed that they would not budge until after the American e******n.

Trump gave the image to our trade partners that we are tired of being screwed economically. That is honesty, not reduced trust. Now it is back to them trusting in the US to be untrustworthy to our own. They like American distrust as long as it is directed at the American people. In a few months we will be back to aquare one on trade.

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Jan 18, 2021 16:45:16   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
America 1 wrote:
Hundreds march in support of Donald Trump in Japan after r**ts
They chanted anti-Chinese C*******t Party and anti-media slogans in both Japanese and English.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/07/us-capitol-hundreds-march-in-japan-in-support-of-donald-trump-13864463/
Donald Trump is so popular that in Vietnam, they even named a bar after him
Taiwan: 'A big brother we can rely on'
"Donald Trump's attitude is good for us and it's good to have such an ally. It gives us more confidence in terms of foreign affairs - militarily and trade," Victor Lin, who works in e-commerce, told the BBC from Taiwan. "We have a big brother we can rely on."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54097609
'Trump Is Better’: In Asia, Pro-democracy forces worry about Joe Biden
“Biden is president, and it’s like having Xi Jinping sitting in the White House,” said Elmer Yuen, a Hong Kong entrepreneur who has posted YouTube videos criticizing the Chinese C*******t Party, or CCP. “He wants to coexist with China, and whoever coexists with the CCP loses.”
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/trump-is-better-in-asia-pro-democracy-forces-worry-about-joe-biden/articleshow/79504067.cms?from=mdr

Ranger7374: A wise man sets the person free because he has foolish evidence.
Change to: A wise man sets the person free because he or she has foolish evidence.
Hundreds march in support of Donald Trump in Japan... (show quote)


Many apologies, I use a past standard of the pronoun he, to reference mankind, humanity etc. There for the masculine pronoun doesn't point to a "man" in particular but humanity as a whole.

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Jan 18, 2021 16:54:36   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Many apologies, I use a past standard of the pronoun he, to reference mankind, humanity etc. There for the masculine pronoun doesn't point to a "man" in particular but humanity as a whole.


I realized what you meant.
No need to apologize only changed it in response to a specific poster.

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Jan 19, 2021 03:29:40   #
eden
 
American Vet wrote:
First - there is no such thing as 'white privilege'.

Second - The events he delineated - are you saying they did not happen?


No such thing as white privilege? Obviously you are white and oblivious to the reality that if a mob of armed black men invaded the Capital and k**led a white policeman the response would have been entirely different than it was when a white mob did exactly that. In some cases white policemen colluded and posed for selfies with the perpetrators. This is white privilege.
There is a corollary with wealth. Rich people help other rich people to game the tax system and perpetuate the cycle of poverty that benefits a small elite group of people.
Not all wealthy people are this way of course but if there is an irony here, poor white people are also negatively affected by the widening debt trap and income ine******y that continues to dog American culture.

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