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Jan 10, 2021 21:54:32   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 



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Jan 10, 2021 22:16:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


No, I won't bake your cake......

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Jan 10, 2021 22:16:54   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


I don't think you grasp the situation.

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Jan 10, 2021 22:37:18   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


As usual, very funny & direct to the point, thanks. Btw, happy new year!

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Jan 10, 2021 23:45:20   #
Singularity
 
archie bunker wrote:
No, I won't bake your cake......


No you may not track crap all over the clean floors and you most certainly may not hang Mike Pence. We will pursue due process after your father comes home!

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Jan 11, 2021 00:17:00   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
I don't think you grasp the situation.

Once again, our resident Canadian has a better understanding of the American Constitution than do our resident conservatives.

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Jan 11, 2021 00:20:07   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
Once again, our resident Canadian has a better understanding of the American Constitution than do our resident conservatives.


Once again, as usual, our Liberal friends can't see the forest for the trees.

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Jan 11, 2021 00:43:27   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
JW wrote:
Once again, as usual, our Liberal friends can't see the forest for the trees.


First, a primer on the right to free speech: It’s right there in the First Amendment of the Constitution that Congress shall make no law “abridging the freedom of speech,” in addition to other freedoms such as religion and press and the right to assemble. And for centuries, the courts have erred on stringently protecting people’s freedom of speech from government intervention.

That doesn’t apply to what Twitter did, for two reasons:

1.) Twitter is a private company, not a government. The First Amendment was designed to prevent Congress or the states from blocking people’s freedom to express themselves. In fact, you could argue that it protects the right of a company such as Twitter to decide for itself what content to allow. The government can’t push a private company to publish something it doesn’t want to publish, said John Morris, who has served in leading telecommunication roles in two p**********l administrations and is now a fellow at the Brookings Institution. On Thursday, Trump retweeted a video saying “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” — language that is offensive, yes, but that freedom of speech is designed to allow. Major social media companies have modeled their platforms on this principle, as well, but they don’t have to.

2.) Twitter is a platform that can regulate its content as it wishes, in accordance with its own terms of service. Morris said there are no laws that restrict the ability of platforms or websites to regulate their content. And if Trump doesn’t like it, he is welcome to go to another platform.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/29/no-twitter-did-not-violate-trumps-freedom-speech/

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Jan 11, 2021 01:09:12   #
JW
 
GoCubs wrote:
First, a primer on the right to free speech: It’s right there in the First Amendment of the Constitution that Congress shall make no law “abridging the freedom of speech,” in addition to other freedoms such as religion and press and the right to assemble. And for centuries, the courts have erred on stringently protecting people’s freedom of speech from government intervention.

That doesn’t apply to what Twitter did, for two reasons:

1.) Twitter is a private company, not a government. The First Amendment was designed to prevent Congress or the states from blocking people’s freedom to express themselves. In fact, you could argue that it protects the right of a company such as Twitter to decide for itself what content to allow. The government can’t push a private company to publish something it doesn’t want to publish, said John Morris, who has served in leading telecommunication roles in two p**********l administrations and is now a fellow at the Brookings Institution. On Thursday, Trump retweeted a video saying “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” — language that is offensive, yes, but that freedom of speech is designed to allow. Major social media companies have modeled their platforms on this principle, as well, but they don’t have to.

2.) Twitter is a platform that can regulate its content as it wishes, in accordance with its own terms of service. Morris said there are no laws that restrict the ability of platforms or websites to regulate their content. And if Trump doesn’t like it, he is welcome to go to another platform.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/29/no-twitter-did-not-violate-trumps-freedom-speech/
First, a primer on the right to free speech: It’s ... (show quote)


You think this is about getting kicked off of a social media platform. You definitely proved my point about not seeing the forest.

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Jan 11, 2021 01:12:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
archie bunker wrote:
No, I won't bake your cake......


Yes, you would

Or at least you'd have the wife do it while we knocked back a few cold ones...

On the other hand



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Jan 11, 2021 01:13:27   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JW wrote:
I don't think you grasp the situation.


Only the legalities

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Jan 11, 2021 02:18:01   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


Or you are a conservative and the Left is afraid of letting you debate issues on their platform because they themselves are power-hungry Autocrats who are afraid of the t***h.

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Jan 11, 2021 02:22:49   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Only the legalities


No, you're missing there also. This is not about free speech. It's about stealing an e******n and it is to be taken very seriously.

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Jan 11, 2021 02:30:05   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


Big Tech is un-American. This is un-American what they are doing to dissenting voices. You could see this coming and it will only get worse with Democrats in control.

Ted Cruz Has Some Uncomfortable Questions for Those Comfortable With Tactics of Big Tech Overlords
By Sister Toldjah | Jan 09, 2021 12:15 PM ET

As my RedState colleague Nick Arama reported yesterday, Twitter has wasted no time in purging conservative/Republican Twitter accounts from President Trump’s and on down, using the Capitol Hill r**ts as an excuse to shut down Twitter users they’ve longed to remove from the platform but didn’t because they wanted to pretend to be fair and balanced.

In addition to that, conservative Twitter users who haven’t been suspended are reporting follower loss numbers in the thousands, with some in the tens of thousands.

It’s obvious what’s going on here, and it has nothing to do with any supposed concerns from The Powers That Be at Facebook, Twitter, etc. about “incitement” in advance of Joe Biden’s inauguration later this month. Despite it being obvious, however, there are those on the left and the virtue-signaling right who have rushed to bow to Big Tech overlords in response to their crackdowns because apparently, they think their accounts will be safe from them because they’d never ever dare post anything that could be misconstrued for WrongThink, right?

But in that, the gullible on the left and right could not possibly be more wrong. And Sen. Ted Cruz, who along with Sen. Josh Hawley, is ridiculously being blamed for Wednesday’s Capitol Hill r**ts for having the nerve to do what Democrats did after the 2000, 2004, and 2016 p**********l e******ns by objecting to some E*******l College v**es, had some pointed questions for those showing fealty to the Twitter and Facebook gods:

And if the milquetoast tweets President Trump posted that got him permanently suspended can be declared “incitement” by the liberals running these companies, anyone can face the same punishment by tweeting/posting much less:

Make no mistake about it: No matter how innocent your words are, these people can come for your accounts and the followings you have worked hard to build up at any time. This is not about “incitement” in any way, shape, or form. Do not be fooled.

This is about censorship and control of narratives. It always has been.

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Jan 11, 2021 02:35:41   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


https://rightwingcountrynews.com/concha-slams-facebook-twitters-political-agenda-after-banning-trump/

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